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chieftain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 07:19 AM Original message |
To be viable, Edwards will have to explain his less than stellar |
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mrgorth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
1. His debate performance |
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lwcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 07:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. Glad to hear you say that |
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savemefromdumbya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 04:38 PM Response to Reply #56 |
97. ITA |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. Edwards won the debate |
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philgobluemi (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 09:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
67. Actual Quotes from the Debate |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 04:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
96. Thanks! A fine defense of Edwards' debate |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
82. I didn't find that true at all. |
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westcott (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
2. Hardball Oct 13 2003 |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 07:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. THank you for |
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Brazenly Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 08:04 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I'd like to know what he's said about it recently. |
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westcott (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 08:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Poll driven "oops" |
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Brazenly Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 08:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. How do you know it was poll driven? |
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westcott (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 08:58 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Couldn't be more obvious |
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Brazenly Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 09:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. correlation does not equal causation |
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westcott (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 09:41 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. You must have some other reason |
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Brazenly Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. No, you're not coming off as short, but |
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westcott (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:14 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. ok |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 01:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
86. I tend to give these folks the benefit of the doubt when I can |
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philgobluemi (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 09:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
70. Drove Polls, Not Poll Driven |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 04:32 PM Response to Reply #70 |
94. You ask a question, so I will answer...... |
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dragonkeep (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
39. I saw him apologize for that vote |
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lwcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #39 |
57. Absolutely |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
46. He did say he was wrong a while back. |
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Red Zelda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 08:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. WTF???? |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 09:30 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. lame, lame |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 09:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. It is absurd |
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westcott (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 09:52 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. No no no. |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. it's not 'lovy dovy garbage' |
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america_in_08 (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 07:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
59. What are these multiple talking head shows? |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 09:53 PM Response to Reply #59 |
74. You were obviously under a rock in 2004. |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:13 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. You made no sense....and |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 01:30 AM Response to Reply #17 |
87. Just because the dude is handsome and young-looking for his age |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
33. that is not the status quo |
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SmellsLikeDeanSpirit (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
8. I'd like to know this too. Edwards added nothing. |
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philgobluemi (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 09:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
73. Kerry Ignored the South |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
10. Edwards won't be the Democrat that saves you "from a ticket led by Hillary" |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
12. Edwards was banished during the campaign |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:08 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. They sent him to Missouri to campaign, and then announced they were pulling out |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:22 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I think that happened in Virginia too, so close |
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chieftain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. I thought the decision to pull out of Missouri was stupid. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 06:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
47. I saw Edwards in Illinois a few weeks before the election. |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 06:53 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. they likely would have done better in the West |
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chieftain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I'm not sure they would have done worse in the South if Hillary |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 07:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. The problem with doing well in the South was having Kerry at the top. |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 07:27 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. it's all moot now |
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benny05 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 08:50 PM Response to Reply #47 |
63. Agreed |
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CarolNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
79. Wow, way to take a swipe and John AND Teresa all in one fell swoop... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
15. I heard the word 'lethargic' used to describe it, but in all fairness, Elizabeth was ill |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
18. Apparently Elizabeth Edwards' book cites examples where... |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Right - He absolutely did want to fight the Ohio vote count |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 01:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Woodward's book says Kerry was also fighting the count, then Carville told Matalin |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 02:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. more Edwards posturing |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 03:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Again, on Edwards, you are wrong, Green Arrow |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 06:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. of course it's posturing |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 09:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
68. Don't be so sure |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 01:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Elizabeth never gets specific there. It was the Dem party number crunchers and |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Edwards wanted to not concede |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 03:58 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Except it was Kerry who would have to take it to court and show legal cause which |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 08:59 PM Response to Reply #38 |
64. I said he had no case |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:09 PM Response to Reply #64 |
75. It wasn't about looking bad - it was about not having a legal case to make. |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:54 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. I'm not saying he would ever have had a case |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
25. Two anti-Edwards posts on the front page right now |
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PeaceProgProsp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 01:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. So what happened this week? SurveyUSA and Rasmussen |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 03:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Those polls are meaningless. |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Your experience is not that of most others |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Ever Gone To One Of His Rallies??? |
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chieftain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 06:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. I have not been to see him in person, but my brother has. |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. a little like George Bush, but more like Reagan I think |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 09:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
65. that is pathetic |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:54 PM Response to Reply #65 |
81. what's so pathetic about it? |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 11:35 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. OK |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 09:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
69. Yeah, that's why his numbers got better every day of the campaign. |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
28. I thought the campaign mishandled Edwards |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
31. I can't necessarily blame John Edwards for how he campaigned |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 07:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
55. He's getting the AFL-CIO Paul Wellstone Award ! |
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benny05 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 08:00 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Yep, he's the workin' man's candidate |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
40. He's STILL MY Number One!!! I've Stated Reasons Before.... |
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Fabio (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
42. I voted for Kerry in the primaries |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
45. Kerry and the DNC didn't want Edwards to outshine Kerry. |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 09:17 PM Response to Reply #45 |
66. Exactly |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:13 PM Response to Reply #45 |
77. Baloney. Edwards was being sent everywhere. DNC 's lack of party infrastructure |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 11:49 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. Those are two seperate issues. |
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lillilbigone (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
50. The media wouldn't show him OR Kerry. |
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chieftain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 07:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. I listed that as one of the possibilities, but the media had |
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lillilbigone (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. I agree that his debate performance sucked. |
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chieftain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. You have put your finger on another concern of mine. |
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machka (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 09:46 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. Self-defense and negativity |
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chieftain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:37 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. Thanks for the information. I have to say that it increases my |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 10:24 AM Response to Reply #78 |
91. the swift boat thing is a perfect example. |
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chieftain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 03:30 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. That is very useful information. I didn't see Edwards defending |
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PeaceProgProsp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Clinton didn't ask Gore to address the bimbo erruptions. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 01:38 AM Response to Reply #50 |
89. I remember that. "Where's Edwards" |
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philgobluemi (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
71. Edwards Did Well Where he was Sent |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
83. I think there was a media blackout of Edwards' VP efforts in 2004 |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
88. If Obama runs, I think his youthful enthusiasm will neutralize Edwards. |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 10:16 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. agree, in part |
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USA_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
95. More Importantly ... |
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savemefromdumbya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 04:40 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. but they won't swiftboat Hillary |
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USA_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-08-06 12:20 AM Response to Reply #98 |
100. "Stop Hillary" |
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chieftain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 07:29 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. As we evaluate who should be on the Democratic ticket in '08, |
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