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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 12:26 PM
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HuffPost: "Do you want the U.S.A. to win in Iraq? Yes or No?"
by Frank Dwyer
12-01-06
The Huffington Post

<snip>

Here's a possible answer to O'Reilly's clever little question.

"Do you want the United States to win in Iraq? Yes or no?"

"Oh, Bill, I fervently hope and believe, just like you, that the United States will continue its uniquely generous, near-perfect domination of the planet, the cosmos, and the universe--always in close consultation, of course, with the God of Christmas--to the end of recorded time."

That should stop him for a beat or two, long enough for me to go on: "That said, however, I can't answer your Iraq question until I understand it. Tell me what you mean by "win" and I'll answer immediately, yes or no."

He'll flash that gruesome, haughty, supercilious grin and launch into his typical bloviating counterattack, but I'll go on, and I don't think he'll have them shut my microphone off. He'll sense that his crowd doesn't yet know whether it's thumbs up or thumbs down with me, since he hasn't really scored his knockout yet. They liked what I said about the United States. He'll let me continue. After all, I'm a liberal--all I need is enough rope.

"For example," I'll say, "if by 'win' you mean establish a stable democracy in which every Iraqi will have a prosperous and happy life, I'll say, 'No.' Sorry, Bill. No. I don't want 3,000 U.S. soldiers to die for that. I don't even want one American soldier to die for that. Sorry. But since I wouldn't want to die for that myself, or have anyone I love die for that, either, I can't cheer from the sidelines as other people and other people's children are sent off to risk their lives for such a mission. No. I want any American soldiers who haven't been killed yet, who haven't had any arms or legs blown off yet, to come home. No. I'm sorry they were ever sent there. I'm sorry that a vain, foolish, insecure, stubborn, deceitful little man who never studied or read or traveled and doesn't know very much, a thoughtless, irresponsible cypher, betrayed our soldiers and sent them over there (too few to accomplish this mission, and scavenging for armor, to our everlasting shame, as we shopped away our tax cuts in the War-on-Christmas malls). I'm sorry that my country, because of such appalling leadership, has made things so much worse for the Iraqis, and for all our friends in the region, and so much better for all our enemies. I'm sorry, I really am, but no. My answer is no. If that is how you and your Commander-in-Chief are now defining 'win,' I don't want the U. S. to win. Sorry. Your kind of win is what I call losing."

I'm not finished. "Wait, Bill. I answered you, so now you have to answer me. Okay? I have a yes or no question for you. I assume you voted for George W. Bush in 2000. If you could do that vote over again, would you do the same thing? Would you vote for Bush again in 2000? Instead of Al Gore? Yes or no?"

That's a trick question, too, and we should ask it every time a right-wing pundit barks or sneers or yammers or drips venom or spins spins spins at us. Ed Rogers mocked Barack Obama's middle name the other day, as if his name alone--Hussein--was enough to disqualify him from higher office. I suppose it is, in FoxWorld. Rogers also sneered at Al Gore. How I wanted to ask him my question. "Knowing what you know now, would you vote again for Bush in 2000? Yes or no?" If he or any of them answer no, they won't get to be right-wing pundits any more, however effectively they bark or drip or spin. But if they say "Yes, absolutely, Bush is my man, I'd vote for him again"-for him and Iraq and Katrina, etc., etc.--then they are exposed, once and for all, for all the world to see, as shamefully ignorant, monumentally stubborn, willfully blind, and clearly on a quick trip to the dustbin of history. In fact, with a question like this in our loofahs, we might be able to keep any Republican from winning any future election for anything. Really.

Would you vote for Bush again? Instead of Gore?

Yes or no?

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Please read the entire post here, and apologies for pushing the paragraph rule, I just could not snip it and still keep the snarkalicious flavor:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-dwyer/do-you-want-the-united-st_b_35316.html


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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 12:34 PM
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1. Great answer. Of course, O'Reilly would have cut him off after the word
"No"
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 12:40 PM
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3. Or edit out the answer after "no" and edit in
"see, liberals hate America" :evilgrin:
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 12:35 PM
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2. THAT DEPENDS WHAT THEY DEFINE AS WINNING?
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 03:42 PM
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6. The author defined winning as
Edited on Fri Dec-01-06 03:44 PM by Catchawave
Iraqi's living a nice life, however he said he would say NO as American lives are not worth that. The whole article needs to be read to understand the full bang :) Especially the part I snipped out which sets up his talking points.

Sort of a "how to respond to conservative crap", like asking them, "if you knew then what you know now, would you still have voted for Bush in 2000?".

Edit for clarity, I think.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 01:04 PM
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4. We have already won. Mission Accomplished. Bring 'em home to celebrate. nt
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 03:46 PM
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7. Whatever happend to that Celebration Fund
the Republicans budgeted for?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 01:14 PM
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5. To win what? A suitcase full of money? A modeling career? nt
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 04:23 PM
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8. I think that's Halliburton's promise :) n/t
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-02-06 05:22 PM
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9. Saturday night kick
before I drop into the the DU Abyss :D
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-02-06 11:37 PM
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10. Irrelevant...they have already lost. The US lost the moment they invaded.
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