A plea to you

[redsoxliberal]

Please vote for Howard Dean for president in the upcoming 2004 election.

Dean has energized the entire democratic party, giving us our own party
again. Dean has a terrific record in Vermont, having balanced several
budgets, giving universal health care to all minors. He has a terrific
environmental record. Dean spoke out loudly against the War on Iraq, an
unauthorized, illegal war where 500 of our own, and thousands of Iraqis
have been murdered. Not only did he speek out, he spoke out when it was
very unpopular. He does not change with the wind. He spoke out against No
Child Left Behind.
John Kerry, the current frontrunner voted for the Iraq war, No Child Left
Behind, and the Patriot Act. Now that they are all unpopular, he is
changing his views. Do you want a voice, or an echo? Why chose "the
real deal" when you can have a real choice. A choice that will reform
the country.
If you want to vote in a democrat, vote for Howard Dean.
Imagine in a debate
between Bush and Kerry. Bush mentions that Kerry voted for much of his
platform. Kerry responds with "hey, ease off pal, we're both from
skull and bones." Dean can dispute those claims, and he was against
Bush's policy from the start, unlike most of the current candidates.

Vote for the voice, not the echo --- Howard Dean, M.D. for America!

[OhioStateProgressive]

1. please vote for Dennis Kucinich(nt)

[redsoxliberal]

3. I like Kucinich

A lot in fact. But I like Dean better, and I believe he has a much better chance.

[OhioStateProgressive]

12. I don't worry about "chances"

I stop at correct, not electable

[cheezus]

35. Yes, Please vote for Dennis

[cthrumatrix]

2. Dean has my vote...

[Ninga]

5. It's Howard all the way!

[pezcore64]

4. heck yeah!

IM looking for the Dean people from before New Years eve! where are they?!

what happened to the people in the campaign whod just stand taller everytime people tried to knock us down?!

what happened to the people who only got stronger under attacks?!


i want my country back!!!


Go DEAN!

[redsoxliberal]

7. WE'RE RIGHT HERE!

AND WE STILL STAND TALL! We Will NOT give up.


We will not give up in Washington, Maine, Wisconsin, California, Texas, New York, Massachusetts, Vermont, Ohio! We will not stop until we TAKE BACK THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Killarney]

6. A few points...

1) 99 out of 100 senators voted for the Patriot Act. But the Dems got a sunset clause in there for us.
2) Kerry is not flip-flopping on the war. When he announced that he would vote for the IWR, he said:
"In giving the President this authority, I expect him to fulfill the commitments he has made to the American people in recent days - to work with the United Nations Security Council to adopt a new resolution setting out tough and immediate inspection requirements, and to act with allies at our side if we have to disarm Saddam Hussein by force. If he fails to do so, I will be among the first to speak out."

and that is exactly what he's doing.

3) Ted Kennedy... liberal extraordinaire helped write NCLB. This was not a Rep only project... many Dems supported this. The problem with NCLB was that Bush promised he would fully fund it... then he didn't. He forced an unfunded mandate on the states and surprise it fell apart. That's Kerry's problem with it.

You should try keeping an open mind and reading more about the issues rather than just throwing digs at candidates without fully knowing what happened.

You would have more of a chance to sway me with positive stuff about your candidate rather than trashing another candidate.

And... this is just my opinion, but it's like comparing apples and oranges to try to compare Kerry's voting record with what Dean's voting record "would have been." Sure, he can say now he wouldn't have voted for IWR or Patriot... but YOU DON'T KNOW whether he would have or not because he didn't have a vote.

[Mass_Liberal]

18. ok

so Kerry trusted Bush to do what is right. Which, I suppose is not morally wrong. It's only stupid. This is SHRUB we're talking about. Stupid, and malevolent, with even eviler people pulling his strings!

If a guy at DU said we should trust Bush to do the right thing, he'd be flamed into a charcoal.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

8. No. It is this very ad hominem attack kind of post replete with

references about conspiracy theories and appeals to emotion with total disregard for Kerry's record spanning decades that sickens me about Dean and his tap the angry irrational voter movement.

I will never vote for Howard Dean. Not ever. Good luck pulling this stalled campaign out of your collective hats with shit posts like this.

I'll sit home if he accidentally wins. He is just as smarmy and divisive as George W. Bush and all the ridiculous posts such as this that have surfaced ever since Dean couldn't pull Iowa out of his ass with bussed in supporters and NO VOTERS nor REAL organization at the caucuses in Iowa have convinced me that Dean represents the TOTALITARIAN wing of the Democratic party.

His comments on MTP that delegates rather than votes count made me realize, he is only playing the one man..one vote crowd like a fiddle.

Howard Dean has completely turned me off.

[Old and In the Way]

14. Totally agree with your frustration here, NSMA.

All the Kerry bashers on the board want us to forgot who is obviously winning the hearts and minds of mainstream Democrats accross the country. We should be counter-intuitive on this and support candidates who have not won a single Democratic primary, even in their own back yard.

Forget "electibility"...that's an evil concept. Instead, look at my candidate X's position papers, voting records, and talking points. See, in theory, my candidate is the "Best" democrat to win. Stop looking at results that indicate, misinformed, brainwashed Democratic voters are identifying John Kerry as the person who best exemplifies the qualities and characteristics that they want in a President. He's not left enough....or too left.

Pay attention to my candidate's scorecard on the issues. He has the best scorecard.

[pezcore64]

25. LOL

Yeah, Please do look at "voting records" !!!


GO DEAN!!

[Zomby Woof]

17. I love you Teena

Oh gawd, that was perfect. :smoke:

[MuseRider]

22. YUP!

Well said. I wish I felt differently but I do not.

[Mass_Liberal]

23. dude

say what you will about Dean, for the most part. But can you honestly say he's as bad as Bush? I've never even heard someone go that far. At times, I despise Kerry. But I will say he's not even close to as bad as Bush. And neither is Dean. I think you probably know that already.



P.S Dean does have voters, and real organization. He's second. And I know you'll talk about superdelegates. But he has gotten 20+% in plenty o' states.

[XanaDUer]

34. YES! It had to be said, and thank you!

Dean stinks. He stinks. Let me say that again: he stinks. Dumb posts like the original will not reduce his stinkiness.

His record speaks for itself.

:puke:

[damnraddem]

9. Please vote for the Democratic candidate.

I'd be happy were it Dean, or Kucinich; but now it's ABB.

[HereSince1628]

I'll vote for a democrat even if I have to write one in.

[BeatleBoot]

10. Dean is a good man.

But I already voted for Kerry.

Kerry voted the way he did based on Bush's lies.

[Mass_Liberal]

24. I love your sig line

I couldn't stop laughing when I heard that line. It's gold!

[For PaisAn]

11. Clark is my choice

Dean is my second. It will depend who's left in the race by the time I get to vote. Kerry & Edwards are at the very bottom for me.

[oasis]

13. Helloooo. Hellooooo. If Kerry replaces Bush, where's the echoooo?

[seaglass]

15. No thanks n/t

[no name no slogan]

16. No can do.

BTW, when did covering ±92% of children become "universal coverage"? According to my math, that still leaves approx 8% not covered-- hardly universal by any definition of the word And his environmental record is good, but not great. And his fiscal/economic policy history is friendlier to Wall Street than to Main Street.

The message is good, but the messenger isn't. I'll stick with Kucinich, who not only talks the talk but walks the walk.

[woofless]

19. Nope

Not gonna do it.....wouldn't be prudent.

[tobius]

20. Please,

"If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it."
                         -- Marcus Aurelius

[Anwen]

21. Dean has my vote.

:)

[BruinAlum]

26. No. Dean is a loser.

[MsUnderstood]

27. As long as the echo comes back to me . . .

I'm happing voting for anyone who will echo the current viewpoints of the democrats.

Anybody but bush!

[BuelahWitch]

28. I'm for Dean all the way! n/t

[Lexingtonian]

29. No

Most Democrats agreed with the positions John Kerry took at the time of each vote you so critique. Dean is the legless man who teaches running.

Dean would be a great President- had he run in 1976.

Dean is a hypocrite about many things. 'Insiders' and 'DLC' are enemies, Al Gore isn't.

Intransigence is not a virtue. Righteousness is not a virtue.
And no one expects Dean to do anything about social justice issues.

The theology and demonology of the Dean campaign is the same as that of the Bush campaign, just inverted. Since neither is morally based, there is no higher ground to defend. In a battle between the two Bush has the upper hand. (Both are Manichaean theologies.)

[CrazyHarry25]

30. Why vote for either?

The echo and the original are equally bad for the party.

[eileen_d]

32. Who do you support, may I ask?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[CrazyHarry25]

33. Started with Lieberman

I'm more middle, obviously. Now I don't know who to vote for, if you want the truth. I can't stand Kerry, I think he's untruthful, and Dean's antics scare me...

[tobius]

31. go...howard....yeah...