How many of you have received apologies from Conservatives?

[BOSSHOG]

You know, "well you liberals were right all along about Iraq and we were wrong, please accept my apology for questioning your patriotism." I can't wait for those who trashed me to come forward with christian love in their hearts and we can hug and bask in our new found friendship as we march forward to make this world a better place. Gosh, any day now.

[cmd]

1. I'm still waiting

Hell hasn't frozen over yet.

[LaurenG]

2. I have

It's my mother. She actually said she wished she would have listened and said she feels very badly about helping to elect him.

[nebenaube]

18. my family...

My dad said he turned Republican because of the Democratic party's history over the last 80 yrs. He's sorry, I can see it in his eyes but he can't admit it. My mother has been conciliatory but can't admit it to herself either.

I remember just before my father retired from the army, we were about to leave Germany, where we had lived on and off for twelve years. I acquired a great education there. After all it was a twelve year long field trip into remnants of a nation that fell to fascism, took on the aspect of a demon and got its ass handed to itself, etc, etc. The last conversation I had with him over there went something like this: "So tell me, if the Germans were such devout christians and Germany was a democracy then how could they have let this happen?" His reply was "the worst insult you can level at a christian is to call them a fool". Because, he said, "they were warned!".


My parents recently told me they had taken out long-term care insurance. I thought perfect! You need it!

They are now both fools in my mind. As a free-thinking liberal who called Bush a Nazi before he stole the election of 2000, i.e. one who has been terrified at the concept of dying in a halliburton concentration camp.... I hope they have a nice fucking life.

[unpossibles]

3. BWAAHAHAHAHA! n/t

[sandnsea]

4. Yeah, pretty much

Not a straight-up 'gosh I'm sorry', but 'how could I have been so wrong about someone'. That was from someone who was hesitant about Iraq all along, but gung ho for Bush because he was a "Christian man". Argh. That's the only out and out admittance of making a mistake that I've heard so far.

[BOSSHOG]

6. An old shipmate of mine

was luke warm about the war from the start, but somewhat in support of bush. Now, he hates the SOB, voted straight dem ticket in 06 for the first time in his life. I've yet to hear a peep from those who questioned my manhood and my patriotism when I suggested in November 02 that we might not want to go to Iraq. I was questioned by chickenhawks and I did 24 years in uniform. I guess they are working on their apologies.

[CrispyQ]

13. I had my patriotism questioned by a few people.

I was told I should "just leave this country if you don't love it." Their ignorance of what love of the USA is, was amazing. They were just co-workers, but two of them I had to work closely with & they were downright chilly after wards. I happily accepted the job my boss offered me when he left the company.

Last year one of them called & asked me to go to lunch. I kindly declined. Maybe a bigger person would have gone, but she was a co-worker, not a friend.

[BOSSHOG]

14. I will never forget the incident

November 2002, in my favorite wateringhole, A 20-something chickenhawk in a very loud voice told me that to prove my love of our country I should join the Army and go to Iraq after I suggested that going into Iraq wasn't very smart. At that point, for the first time in my life, I pulled out my military retiree ID Card, told the lad I had served 24 years and one tour in a combat zone. I asked him where he had served in the military. He said he hadn't served "yet." He left the bar with his beer still on the counter. I will never forget and thanks to that "conservative" I will pull the vet card whenever provoked by cowards.

[sandnsea]

19. We didn't know anyone like that

This particular person was always more reasonable in conversations, would never impune anybody's patriotism or differing opinion. He's just one of many that got sucked into the anti-liberalism, anti-Clinton rhetoric and it's taking him a while to wake up to it. The only person I know who was really gung ho about Iraq is a classic uneducated fundy, I don't take anything he says seriously anyway. My family would NEVER apologize or admit they were wrong, not to me anyway. That's got nothing to do with politics and everything to do with family dynamics. But they never attacked us as anti-patriotic either. Then again, I suppose if I'd had 24 years of military friendships, the situation would be different. I imagine it must have been a real strain on a lot of those relationships. What's stunning is that people still believe what spews out of the shitbox. Giuliani being at the top of that poll is evidence of that. I mean, excuse me, but he spent how many millions putting a command center in the #1 NYC target, while not making sure his first responders could communicate - and that's leadership??? *sigh*

[classof56]

5. Ain't holding my breath.

However, I do have a hard-line RW republican friend of long standing who not too long ago told me she was pretty disgusted with Bush and crowd, as well as the republican party. A real breakthrough for her, considering how tightly she had embraced their policies and supported invading Iraq. I feel much better about her now. For quite awhile our 45-year friendship was getting kinda hard for me to sustain.

Tired Old Cynic

[filer]

7. I have them lining up...

wailing and begging forgiveness. Well, actually not yet. :)

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. Actually, there have been a few.

The best one was several months ago -- a guy at work told me he was ashamed and embarrassed for having voted for Bush, and as a Christian he felt he could never vote for a Republican again because he realized they don't care anything for the poor.

[BOSSHOG]

9. Praise the Lord

can I get an Amen!! Ya mean he doesn't like good republicans having sex with little boys and male prostitutes. Ya mean that offends his values? He doesn't like a man who lies and lies and lies.

[CrispyQ]

10. No.

My mother said she regrets she voted for bush, but "my vote was not for bush but a vote against Kerry." :crazy: When I commented that Kerry could not possibly have fucked things up as bad as bush her response was, "you can't say what he would have done." :eyes:

This from a woman who accused Kerry of being "a socialist & a fascist." :wtf: You can see why it is almost impossible for me to speak to her. She is willfully ignorant & intellectually lazy. She loves limbaugh & o'reilley & can only speak in right wing sound bites. I cannot believe the woman who raised me is part of the backwash. :cry:

[kentuck]

11. No. I apologized to them....

because we had to throw out all the Republicans to save our country. We could not survive two more years. Sorry they supported them but we had no choice...:)

[wisteria]

12. Republicans never apologize. They point the finger of blame elsewhere.

And, until the American public and other Dem's forcefully insist they do so, they will continue to get away with their smugness.

[peace13]

15. Not a one.

My family is just as obnoxious as ever. Go figure.

[Parche]

16. apology

Let us spray?
They never will, they are too bull headed to even admit they were wrong!!!!

[Silent3]

17. Why apologize when you can blame liberals for your failures?

It's not incompetent execution of a war that was a bad idea in the first place that's to blame. No, the "real" problem is that liberals wouldn't stop bad-mouthing our fine President, and didn't get behind him 100%.

No matter that Republicans were fully in charge of all three branches of government. No, the people with all of the power to command troops and the disposition of military assets, the people with all the power over military spending, the people in charge of all of our diplomatic relationships with other countries, can hardly be considered at fault for failure when someone else was saying things that might make them look less than perfect at the same time.

It's the perfect built-in excuse to blame others for your own failures: act like the only way to succeed is to present an utterly and completely unified front, then, when you obviously don't get such unity because such unity is impossible, point to everyone who didn't "tow the line" exactly the way you say it had to be towed (and it's fine and dandy to invoke a little historical revisionism here if you've been changing what you've been saying yourself) as the cause for your failure.

Yes, the Bushies did their "noble best" (note: "noble" and "best" are being graded on a hell of a curve here), but those damn libruls who wouldn't get in line brought them down and ruined everything in Iraq.

[kcass1954]

20. One - from the biggest * supporter in my office.

He said he hopes we don't screw it up like the repubs did.

What caused him to wake up? Several things - older parents with health problems who hit the "donut hole", gas prices, stagnant wages, corruption (we agreed that anyone of either party with ethics problems needs to be booted out, but that it does seem like there are more repubs these days). While he agrees in principle with the Iraqi occupation, he thinks that there are serious problems and we have screwed that up beyond repair.

I tried very hard not to gloat the day after the election. My only comment to him was, "Can you spell subpoena? Hope your party can..."

[leftofthedial]

21. I've had several deny that they were ever repukes

"I've always been more of an independent, libertarian type"

I've heard that at least twenty times.

[BOSSHOG]

Just like perle and adelman

What me? I had nothing to do with the Iraq mess. That's all bush's fault.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

23. Kind of like after Nixon resigned,

and even though he'd won the 1972 election by a landslide, after he left office you could hardly find anybody who'd admit to having voted for him...

"Me? Vote for Nixon? Um, actually, I never liked the guy all that much..." (slinking away, not making eye contact)

[Norquist Nemesis]

22. Won't happen. My SIL is still pissed at us because "no one apologized

about Bill Clinton" to her! (Seriously!)

My BIL and I had a quick chat on Thanksgiving about it. We were both thankful that she'd be keeping her mouth shut this year. BIL told me he almost clocked her one night during one of her tirades. :rofl:

[BOSSHOG]

24. Wait a minute

Clinton invented the blow job and we are supposed to apologize? Yeah, I'm so terribly sorry for eight years of peace and prosperity and a man in the oval office savvy enough to multi-task.

[Norquist Nemesis]

25. You got it!

Needless to say, it was a 'quiet' Thanksgiving. :rofl:

[Efilroft Sul]

30. Thanksgiving was a little weird, too. Had it with my wife's cousin and family.

My wife's cousin was once a happy-go-lucky lib who did well in engineering. But after he took a job in the middle of nowhere and started to adopt a bunch of kids, he morphed into this Promise-Keepin' Conservative. "Bush can do no wrong," he asserts. "He's the father of our country, and he deserves our praise and worship." Of course, my wife's cousin thinks I'm completely around the bend, but I got him and his family reeeeeeal good when I explained to them why the Republicans lost the midterms.

"Why did they lose?" asked the cousin and his dad.

"Well, it was Mark Foley," I said.

"Why Mark Foley?" they asked.

"Foley proved to the American people that the Republicans are the cocksuckers* we all knew them to be."

My father-in-law tried his best not to break out into hysterical laughter on the sidelines.

* With apologies to cocksuckers everywhere.

[Efilroft Sul]

26. I'm still disowned by almost all the fucks who were my "brothers."

Yeah, I did the fraternity thing in the '80s while in college, primarily because parties were a great way to do blow off steam and meet girls. After 9/11 and all the MIHOP/LIHOP stuff started to trickle out on the Net, I questioned my brothers what the White House knew and when they knew it, and sent out e-mails to my old chums who were all caught up in the War on Terra. Long story short, they all flipped out and did the "My country, love it or leave it" shit. But I kept on sending stuff to challenge their assertions. One by one, they all blocked my e-mails. Some had their wives (good southern Christian women, don'tcha know?) send me nastygrams telling me to die basically. All have written me off.

The thing is, it's not like these Johnny Come Lately conservatives are rolling in Wall Street bucks. One's a prison guard. Another's a paramedic. One's a night shift supervisor of security at a Philips plant in Indiana. Another's a perpetual student. Every single one of them has supported this insanity and consistently voted against their self interests. They all say Bush is a moral man, yet these were the same dudes who drank heavily and then deflowered every freshman gal they could grope. It must be the college experience my brothers had that enables them to relate to a guy like W.

I hope they all die from ass cancer.

[BOSSHOG]

27. Your list of their jobs was very telling

Have any of them joined the military to show their love of country? I didn't think so.

[Efilroft Sul]

28. You're 100% correct.

They all had "disqualifying conditions" that relegated them to the 101st Fighting Keyboardists.

But those good ol' boys, they love their guns.

[eleny]

29. In my dreams