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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 03:46 PM
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Green Without Envy
Edited on Mon Feb-09-04 03:52 PM by mot78
Former Vermont Gov. Howie Dean and his advisers are looking into options that would allow him to run for president on the Green Party ticket should he fail in his bid to wrench the Democratic nomination away from Sen. John Kerry.

Dean had been looking at the Green Party long before his campaign caught fire. As early as late last summer, Dean was considering the Greens as an option, particularly because at the time Ralph Nader, the Green nominee in 2000, appeared less interested in a run.

-snip-
It would also, as the Deaniac pointed out, get the attention of Terry McAuliffe and the DNC pretty quick. Dean is first to brag he's brought in hundreds of thousands of new voters to the party -- voters who most likely would follow Dean to the Greens. He probably would generate more votes than Nader himself pulled in 2000, again dooming Democrats to another loss.
-snip-

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6134

....Is this true? Or is this just Conservative propaganda?

On edit: I think this is a rw rag, because I just saw a Freeper thread with this article.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1074485/posts
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 03:49 PM
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1. Is this a RW rag?
"Howie Dean"?

not the most flattering Kerry coverage, either.

spectator? heard of it, but all these partisan rags run together. what's their story?
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 06:23 PM
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16. The American Spectator.
Possibly the archetypical RW rag, at least as far as print goes. A publication of Richard Mellon Scaife and the funding locus of the VRWC. We have the damned thing in our library, but we also have The Nation and Mother Jones.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 03:51 PM
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2. Why are RW rags a reference source when they say something negative
about a candidate not to our liking? I don't get it. This will be locked for a rule violation anyway...but WHY WOULD ANYONE USE them as a source of info here anyway? Is that credible?
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 03:51 PM
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3. I'm thinking conservative propaganda
The Greens have already said they will not run a candidate because getting rid of Bush is more important and Dean has said that if he drops out he will back the Dem nominee and encourage his supporters to do the same.

They both realise the danger in that course of action
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 03:54 PM
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4. The American Spectator is the worst kind of RW trash
It's neoconservative RW trash. Edited by, I believe, William Kristol of PNAC fame.
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ShimokitaJer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:05 PM
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5. Why hasn't this been locked?
An identical thread was locked less than half an hour ago for being unsupported allegations from a RW source.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:06 PM
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6. I don't know, but if Kucinich goes Green...he has my vote
Edited on Mon Feb-09-04 04:06 PM by info being
How about a Dean / Kucinich Green ticket!

Ah...disregard that message...that's just my inner passion talking. Sorry.
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:07 PM
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7. Wow!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:09 PM
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8. Doubt the Greens would take Dean
There is a STRONG interest in fielding a home-grown candidate as it were.

Myself, I like Camejo. I wish I would get to vote for him this year, but as luck would have it I'm stuck with voting dem for the sake of getting the $hrub out.
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:09 PM
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9. I also heard Newt express this opinion
and it sounded like garbage coming from his mouth too.

Dean is a DEMOCRAT...not a Green.
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:11 PM
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10. Green Party primary totals
Edited on Mon Feb-09-04 04:11 PM by Ficus
and yes, it's underway right now

http://www.gp.org/convention/delegate_tally.html

on edit: I found it interesting that Dennis K is pulling votes in the Green primaries in OH...
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justinpower Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:11 PM
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11. The Greens are running
a bunch of candidates that are duking it out to see who the nominee will be. It looks as if David Cobb will be their man this year.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:12 PM
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12. won't believe it until Dean says something about it himself
the RW is playing with us, par for the course.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:13 PM
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13. But Rove WANTS Dean
I think they're trying to inspire more panic from the DNC and make sure he gets buried good.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:15 PM
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14. Can't Begin Threads Referencing Right Wing Material.
No offense, but...

this thread should be locked, at least in my interpretation of the rules.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 05:21 PM
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15. Right wing crap
in my opinion. Anyway, I don't think the Greens would take Dean, he doesn't have all that great of an environmental record.
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pezcore64 Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 06:28 PM
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17. Ugh
people need to give it up!


HE WONT BE RUNNING FOR THE GREEN PARTY!

WAKE UP!

Lordy!!


GO DEAN!!
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18. Locking.....
7. You may not post any material from extreme right-wing sources, specifically WorldNetDaily.com, Newsmax.com, FreeRepublic.com, and their ilk. Material from more "mainstream" conservative writers or sources, such as The Washington Times and Fox News, are permitted as long as the post includes a clear warning about the source. (For example: "WARNING: Please note that this article is written by George Will.")



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