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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:07 PM
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Poll question: Hillary, Edwards Or Obama?
Unless a dark horse candidate emerges, our choices may end up being between these three.

And yes, I know, many of you want Gore or Kerry or Clark.

But for the purposes of this poll, you don't have that choice.

Who would you support for the Democratic nomination if it came down to Hillary Clinton, John Edwards or Barack Obama?

And who of those three stands the best chance of winning?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:09 PM
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1. Obama! n/t
:-)
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:13 PM
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2. All 3 are 10 x better than any puke
However, Hillary is 10x smarter and tougher

than either of the boys listed.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:18 PM
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5. I think you're right . . .
I like all 3 candidates, and think all are incredibly intelligent and capable, but I think both Edwards and Obama need more experience.
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 11:32 PM
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21. edwards has exactly the same number of senate years as Hillary
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Impashund Ubique Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 11:16 PM
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19. Hillary lacks one intellectual component.
Edited on Wed Nov-15-06 11:17 PM by Impashund Ubique
Hillary is smart; very smart, in fact. However, both Edwards and Obama have a more multifaceted intellect... like Bill Clinton. They have a rare combination of common political sense and the ability to delve into policy. Hillary lacks the touch to connect with people ... which requires some "common" sense. Edwards, Obama and Bill Clinton are the only ones who can be both: men of the people and serious strategists. Hillary can hardly be called an everywoman, and it takes political smarts to attain such an image.

As for being tough... I think Edwards, given the emotional bumps he has been through in life, which did not diminish his drive or optimism or goodness, is by far the toughest, in the real sense of the word.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 11:34 PM
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22. Regarding their intellect . . .
I agree that Hillary has a much more focused intellect, but I think this sort of focus would be a very good quality in a president. As for her ability to connect with people, I agree with you, but I'm willing to give her a chance - It will be interesting to see how she fares on the ground in Iowa in New Hampshire.

I think they're all probably equally tough, though, as all three have led very interesting and sometimes difficult lives. Edwards has been through a lot in his personal life, but I also think it's remarkable that Hillary can still stand tall after all the mud that's been slung at her through the years. And, having read Barack's first book, I must say that he has been through a lot as well.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:17 PM
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3. Obama.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:17 PM
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4. Got to pick Edwards, maybe Obama for VP
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:59 PM
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16. Beat me to it
Edwards and Obama sounds good. That's no to say that any of these would be my final choice.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 11:31 PM
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20. That's what I was thinking too.
I think they would be a great team.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:31 PM
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6. I couldn't possibly vote in any poll that didn't include Clark. I pass.
That's like saying who do you support for the Rethug party if it comes down to Gingrich, Brownback or Giuliani? An inaccurate poll if you leave McCain off the list.

I think Clark will run and win if he runs...so I can't vote.
But, I can say I think Obama is too young and experienced, however, I'd love for him to run in 2012. I don't think Hillary can pick up any Southern states and would lose to McCain...Clark could. I also don't think Edwards could win due to lack of experience...particularly in foreign affairs. I can't see him as Commander In Chief...I can certainly see Clark in that roll.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:38 PM
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8. Actually these are the top 3 on most national polls
so with that in mind, it's more accurate than your example :)
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:56 PM
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15. I havent seen a national poll that doesnt have Clinton and Obama 1&2...
When Gore is included, he usually polls right in front of or right in back of Obama.


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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 11:03 PM
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17. That's because the Corporate owned media don't mention
him for a reason. It scared the sh*t out of them because they knew he'd win and heaven forbid a Dem won and cut their corp tax breaks, When he runs...I hope things will be different because they now know a Dem could win...maybe! However, they may still ignore him for the same reason.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 11:47 PM
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23. That's why he's on Fox (corporate owned) all the time n/t
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:07 PM
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25. I know you all are working very hard for him
and with hopes I'll learn more about what's good about your guy, rather than spend half my time on DU defending my guy :D
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BruceMcF Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:18 PM
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26. Yes, the job for Clark over the next year ...
... is to persuade people in IA, NV, NH and SC that he can carry the roles of President apart from Commander in Chief.

If he raises his position in those states, then the polling results will drive him up in the eyes of the media that cover it as a horse race, and that will raise his profile nationwide.

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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 08:23 PM
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38. Thanks for saying what I was trying to say. n/t
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:37 PM
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7. Senator vs. senator vs. senator... ugh. Two senators elected president in the last 100 years
I hope we can get some good governors in the mix. Preferably from a flippable red state.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 11:59 PM
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24. Edwards is an EX Senator and Ex Veep Candidate
and one term might be a boon. His voting record has already been well picked over.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:40 PM
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9. These are the big 3. Man, I'm not sure...
I'm split right down the middle between Obama and Edwards. I think I'll go with Edwards for this poll, but that does not mean I am firmly behind him... yet.


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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:46 PM
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10. I think if one of these three take it
the most likely Veep choices are either Warner or Vilsack.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:55 PM
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14. If Clinton wins I'm almost positive she'll go with Warner or Vilsack.
If Obama or Edwards emerge from the primary, they will need someone with strong foreign policy cred. Someone like Bill Richardson, Joe Biden, or Wes Clark.

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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:47 PM
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11. Of these three, I would have to go with Obama.
The only one who had the sense to oppose the Iraq war from the start.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:49 PM
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12. Never Wrong on Iraq, Totally Wrong on Iraq and Newbie No Clue,
um, none of the above thanks! ;)
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BruceMcF Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:21 PM
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28. Your list seems to be incomplete ...
... Newbie No Clue and Never Wrong on Iraq are the same person listed twice. Unless you figure someone smart enough to become a multi-millionaire as a trial attorney, explaining the complicated ways that some large corporation had screwed someone to a jury of ordinary citizens as "newbie no clue", and that would be a bit naive.

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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:46 PM
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31. Nope, it's your flawed analysis.
Nope that trial attorney with no national security creds would be Totally Wrong and then apologized.
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BruceMcF Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 04:34 PM
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32. That can't be it. It would be Clinton who was ...
... Totally Wrong, since she has never admitted that she was wrong in the first place.

As far as national security creds, I am not sure I am comfortable with promoting someone directly from a position of one of the pro-consuls of the American Empire directly into the Presidency without first serving in elected office to see what else he has other than national security creds.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:48 PM
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34. Clinton is Never Wrong
since she has yet to make a public utterance that she freaking blew it on the IWR vote.:)
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BruceMcF Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 07:37 PM
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36. Oh, you mean Never Wrong In Her Own Estimation.
I'm not in the habit of tacitly adding, "in the opinion of Saint Hillary" to anything I read. Hopefully I won't have to acquire that habit.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:49 PM
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13. Obama...hands down. n/t
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 11:10 PM
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18. Obama, time for some younger blood plus the man is extremely intelligent...
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:19 PM
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27. anybody but hillary
where's Gore on your poll?
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greeneggs708 Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:26 PM
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29. Ever Heard of a Primary
Read up on it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:39 PM
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30. My issues of greatest concerns currently are our eroding civil rights under the patriot act,
the War in Iraq and our foreign and economic relations in reference to our future debt with our foreign investors such as China, and the matters of peace for the Middle East/Iran/North Korea....

When I look at Edwards' votes on these important issues and his actions at the time, the fact that he co-sponsored BOTH the Patriot act and IWR Lieberman bill disallows me to consider him as a candidate in my book of concerns.

Hillary is also problematic for the same reason although her zeal didn't go as far as signing up to co-sponsor the two vilest bill that have yet to see passed by our congress.

So, I voted Obama, cause if I'm gonna have to vote for someone without Foreign policy experience, might as well be for someone who saw what I saw in reference to Iraq back in 2002, when it counted.

Any of the three would be good in reference to domestic issues, so that part is not of concern to me as much.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:09 PM
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33. I know we all have our favorites, here's an idea....
We should pick one national poll and base all future DU Prez polls on the top 5 or 10 from that poll?

Would that be fair?

Actually my favorite site, though not actually a poll, is:

http://nationaljournal.com/racerankings/wh08/

I usually post these results when they're updated monthly.

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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:57 PM
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35. If Hillary wins, Clark's a perfect VP. If Clark wins, Obama for VP.nt
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judy from nj Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 07:56 PM
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37. None of the above
We will still be in Iraq, Iran and North Korea will still be problems. None of those three can handle those problems.

Wesley Clark is the answer.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 05:09 PM
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39. TheJRE/ Daily Show video is up in the Video Forum now
:evilgrin:

Back to the first page for you!
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 09:21 PM
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40. KUCINICH!!! Edwards and Obama have little government

experience, which will hurt them, and we don't need another Clinton.
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fuzzyball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 09:47 PM
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41. Hillary has a law degree from an IVY school...
Edited on Fri Nov-17-06 09:54 PM by fuzzyball
She has the best pronunciation of the 3 named here,
she is the most photogenic of the 3,
she has the most successful democrat for a spouse,
she is very popular with MSM,
and she gives a very good stand up speech and sounds very educated
and professional, and most of all
she has tons and tons of campaign $$$$$.

Edwards comes across as an insurance salesman.
Obama has a serious name problem, many won't like the Osama sounding
name. That is not right but a stark reality. Even Ted kennedy has
trouble pronouncing his name.

Except for the radical right wing, Hillary will draw votes
from every other category.
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