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Comicstripper (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:39 AM Original message |
Wait, Murtha opposes abortion rights? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. THAT does not please me. And to have two such people in leadership |
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Comicstripper (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. It seems weird, right? |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
55. Not anymore, unfortunately |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:45 AM Response to Original message |
3. you can be against something and still not legislate against it... nt |
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Comicstripper (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. True, but... |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Except that he has legislated against it. That's what his voting record shows. nt |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:51 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. ???? I did not know... got a link? I would be very interested! |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. For starters |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:11 AM Response to Reply #11 |
31. Oh, this is SO not good. |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
56. Thank you for the detailed information |
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zreosumgame (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 03:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
62. nice list, but... |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 04:26 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. Some were major legislation, not sure about all of them. |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:48 AM Response to Original message |
5. You go to Congress with the Democratic Party you have |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 02:42 AM Response to Reply #5 |
80. Also, he gave credibility to withdrawal from Iraq |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:51 AM Response to Original message |
8. He will do as Pelosi says |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 11:07 AM Response to Reply #8 |
41. He's not an activist on his personal view, just like Kucinich and Bonior were never |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 11:09 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. So his NARAL rating means what? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 11:19 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Just like Bonior and Kucinich before him, it's pursuing the legislation that makes |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Ummmmm |
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ninkasi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:55 AM Response to Original message |
9. In that case |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 01:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
52. to add to your idea - the group with the 2nd highest unplanned pregnancies is women in their 40's |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:55 AM Response to Original message |
10. I don't mean to be rude, but it is a simple matter to find out how your reps vote on the issues |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 03:05 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. You wouldn't happen to have a link for that test |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 04:08 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Here are two tests, a shortie and a long one |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 04:49 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Thanks! n/t |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. I used to be very close to the Dalai Lama |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:55 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Yep, I'm still in Dalai territory, myself. NT |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 04:42 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Many of the people here, myself included, place a greater emphasis on the war than other issues |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Well, here's Hoyer on that issue most recently-- |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:15 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Didn't say he's a warmonger |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:52 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I dunno. Nancy being the first woman Speaker, for Steny to try to backstab her |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 06:07 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I'm not saying that Hoyer will try to become Speaker immediately |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 06:20 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Yeah, but that would actually reflect just as poorly on him! |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 01:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
53. Many women don't like the idea of being forced to breed cogs for the oil war machine |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
68. Well, I think that thousands of women dying from botched |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 12:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
48. Great links |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. Anytime. I find them helpful when I see that broad brush come out!!! |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 03:05 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Let me just say.... |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 04:35 AM Response to Original message |
14. Yep, he's a conservative Dem that several at DU fell in love with |
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malikstein (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 04:42 AM Response to Original message |
16. Be careful where you are going. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. No there isn't. You don't have the sequence straight at all. Hoyer was the HEIR to that job. |
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Sturmrabe (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:10 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Well maybe "tradition" like that is outdated! |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 01:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
50. having served in the House leadership |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #30 |
57. It's helpful to have done that work before...there's no learning curve. |
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malikstein (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:12 AM Response to Reply #21 |
32. It's not a procedural question. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 01:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
54. Well, actually, it is. It's procedural, and it is tribal. And it is quid pro quo. |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 07:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
27. DLC shill Franken? |
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malikstein (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:09 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Well, no, |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. he said he was a DLC type at a book signing of his I went to |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
33. I've no doubt that there is that effort. |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
26. Amazing everyone here is just figuring this out now |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:22 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Yup, he is a conservative Democrat |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 01:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. is Steny Hoyer a "DLC Democrat" |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 03:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
63. I must admit, I am only repeating the meme |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
67. Well ,he is promoted by the DLC for majority leader |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. yeah, I found that stuff, too |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 11:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. Barney FRANK supports Hoyer, as do many others. The conservative in this contest is Murtha, not |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
60. The only thing is, he WON'T be "in charge of the agenda" even if he gets the gig |
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hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
65. Give JacksSmirkingRevenge a cookie !!! |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
28. He is a small vote against AR, he is a MAJOR jote against the war |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:19 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. "You're" willing to trade off MY |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
35. a-yup - I posted that enough times |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
37. This is news? |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
38. 'opposing abortion' does not necessarily mean 'opposing abortion rights' |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 11:06 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. But he has voted thusly. |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 11:21 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Yeah, I missed that post. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
43. I have some other shocking news for you, Comicstripper |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
46. if Murtha is anti abortion then I'm anti Murtha and pissed at Pelosi |
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Nordmadr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
47. Have got to say, I think I prefer Steny. N/T |
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zreosumgame (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
59. You take wikipedia at it's word? |
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hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. check his voting record, then ... |
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bluedogyellowdog (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 01:22 AM Response to Reply #59 |
77. Very true |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 01:30 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Hey! "thus always to tyrants" |
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hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
64. Yes indeed, fans ... |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
71. I just love it when old men tell us what we can do with our bodies. |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
72. He's not exactly a friend... |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. That's an interesting point |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
74. I really wish we could get a third choice for majority leader |
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JamesJoyce (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
76. Can't please all the purists all the time! |
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DCal (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 01:30 AM Response to Original message |
79. It's not about Murtha for Pelosi |
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k_jerome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 02:45 AM Response to Original message |
81. jeezum crow, it is simple, Murtha is a bigoted old man. nt. |
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