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Superman Returns Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:43 PM
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Mitt Romney in 08: Take it To the Bank.
Agree or Disagree?
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:45 PM
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1. Who?
:o
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:46 PM
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2. I could see them putting a Romney/Huckabee ticket out there.
But only if McCain suffers some kind of health issues.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:47 PM
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3. I don't see it, but he has feelers out
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:51 PM
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4. You forget, the fundies detest the Mormons
and no one takes their bigotry as seriously as the fundamentalists do.
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:52 PM
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5. Not a chance...he's a Mormon
the "Christian" fundamentalists in the south (where most of the Repuke strength is) do NOT consider Mormons Christians. He'd have to make a public conversion to Southern Baptist to have the chance of a snowball in hell of getting the nomination.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 02:31 PM
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50. Actually, most of the Republican strength is in the mid-West
in the Plain-states:



I wish DUers would stop buying into the myth that Republicans' greatest strong-hold is in the South - it's not.
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Comicstripper Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 02:55 PM
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52. Not so
In fact, the most surprising thing so far about his candidacy is how RECEPTIVE conservatives have been to it. Even religious ones. He's becoming the conservative option for '08. I would give him a very serious look if I were you.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:53 PM
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6. Not A Chance
The magic underwear thing is way too creepy for most Americans. He lied a lot as Governor of Mass - big screaming lies that are easily documented.
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 11:48 AM
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43. But ALL the top candidates have a "not a chance"
Have you notice how pretty much every single candidate in both parties has some "not a chance" conventional wisdom by their name?

With the Republicans it's

McCain "not a chance, conservatives loathe him and he's too old."

Giuiliani "not a chance, he pro-gay and pro-choice and he wore a dress"

Romney" "not a chance, he's a Mormon."

Of those 3, I think Romney's is the least big deal. I think conservatives will embrace Romney before they embrace the other two.


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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 12:42 PM
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45. There's lots of time for
Brownback, Gingrich, Haley Barber or someone else to emerge. I'm not sure it's between those three, just because the media says so.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:54 PM
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7. He wouldn't win MA, for whatever that is worth. nt
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:57 PM
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8. I don't think so, he is really shallow, basically abandoned MA about 2 years ago
for his ambition.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:59 PM
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9. No chance. He's Morman. Right wing Catholics and evangelicals hate 'em
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 12:04 AM
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10. hell no, he has no coattails as proved by Healey in MA.
the evangelical wing doesn't like mormons--no offense mormons but thats the truth.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 12:18 AM
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11. Agree.
McCain has ticked off too many Republicans and looks to be in bad health.

He's history.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 12:22 AM
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12. Nah. I say they run Sam Brownback. n/t
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 12:43 AM
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13. Mormons don't allow women into heaven without the man's OK
Edited on Sun Nov-12-06 12:44 AM by Erika
Mitt believes in equal rights as long as it does not include women or blacks.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 12:44 AM
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14. If he decides to run he hasn't proved that he is electable
Sure he got elected in Massachusetts
But can he get elected to a 2nd term? That would be the confirmation.
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cadmium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 11:44 AM
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42. He has access to hundreds of millions---Provides a lot of electibilit n/t
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 12:58 AM
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15. WHO GIVES A F&%$# ??
About the THUG candidates?

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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 01:01 AM
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16. Mormon AND
carpetbagger. I think this last election proved that besides Iraq, people are tired of hypocrasy.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 01:15 AM
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17. Great choice. He would be so easy to beat!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 01:28 AM
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18. Oooh....then maybe we could run an empty suit "Cute" guy with great hair too....
and then, May the best looking one Win!

American Idol, HERE WE COME! ZA-O-YEE!

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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 01:32 AM
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19. Sorry, I think it will be Gov Pataki-NY, n/i
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SimpleMan Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 01:40 AM
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20. Disagree...
If he even gets close, someone should take a look at his relationship with the Mormon church. Someone should ask him what his priorities are, since he took an oath in the LDS temple to put the church above country.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 02:39 AM
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21. His fifteen minutes are up
He's a lightweight.

The GOP will most likely go with McCain.
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fuzzyball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 03:00 AM
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22. Mayor Rudy, Sen McCain, or gov Schwarzneggar
Oops the governator was not a born citizen, so he can't.
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Fabio Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 03:02 AM
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23. He is the GOPer I would feel most comfortable with.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 03:36 AM
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24. Nope
Rudy Patootie.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 05:41 AM
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25. I think that's a wise call
Mitt has been traveling all over Fundy Land, building bridges with the Evangelicals, & many are saying they could support him.

Also, he already has a good organization in Iowa.

McCain is being pushed by the media, but the base hates him.

I don't think Rudy will run. Many conservatives don't know he's pro-choice & pro-gay rights. Rudy is holding out for Attorney General in a future admin. Before he was mayor, he was a successful prosecuter & worked in the Justice Dept under Reagan.
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 06:53 AM
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26. Fundies I know could definitely support Romney and look on him favorably
Edited on Sun Nov-12-06 07:13 AM by wishlist
Due to Romney's strong anti-gay and anti-abortion stance, fundies and right wing Christians will support him regardless of the Mormonism. I have already heard some of them in North Carolina talk about him favorably. He will have no trouble getting moderate Repubs in other regions after being considered a generally successful governor of a liberal state. Pataki of NY is a non-starter though, lacking Romney's charisma.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 08:27 AM
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27. That;s the point though, he was an unsuccessful governor
and Massachusetts is NOT a liberal state. More voters are registered as unenrolled than as Dems.

Part of the reason Healey lost and Deval Patrick won was because people were sick and tired of Romney and other republicans running and then abandoning MA. Maybe all of that hasn't filtered down to NC yet, but it will.
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:53 AM
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35. Romney can claim keeping taxes down, balancing budget and health care
I have conservative Repub family members in Mass who support Romney, consider their state quite liberal and believe they are a distinct minority there.

Romney has created an impression as fiscally responsible and in the forefront of innovative health insurance coverage (although improved taxpayer funded health care benefits were approved over his vetoes.) His position adopted by Massachusetts legislature of banning gay marriage but allowing civil unions was an acceptable compromise to most Repubs and he won points with right wing for his unsuccessful push for abortion limits and the death penalty. He has law enforcement creds for tightening up Mass laws such as drunk driving penalties and improving benefits for National Guard etc. As far as I can tell he is untainted by the integrity problems of many other Repubs and seems like a formidable candidate.
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primative1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 11:53 AM
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44. The Impression Ended This Week
Two days after a losing election in which Healy-Romney were touting fiscal responsibility and the prospects for lowering taxes and tolls, Romney had to step up and announce drastic emergency funding cuts to salvage an enourmous "new" budget crisis.
Things changed that much in 2 days?
Guess Mass really turned into a little picture of the overall national mismanagement by the GOPers.
Now they have to leave office knowing friendly hands wont cover their cooking the books all these years.
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 02:36 PM
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51. Interesting turn of events then, seems all the GOP 'stars' are fading fast n/t
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 07:27 PM
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57. Massachusetts is NOT a liberal state?
Since when? Sure we've had repuke governors since way back, but the state has also had a veto-proof democratic majority in the statehouse for that whole time. ALL of the reps and both senators are democrats, and as far as I know all won very easily (many ran unopposed). While more voters are registered as un-enrolled than as Dems, when it comes time to vote, the Dems win an overwhelming proportion of those votes, and registered repukes make up less than 13% of the state's voters.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 11:01 AM
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39. I'm so confused...don't Fundies HATE Mormons? I know there was a big
protest when they opened a temple near the town I live in. Big problem with the giant golden cow in their baptismal pool, not to mention their general theological spin.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 02:26 PM
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49. Think again
I know a lot of fundamentalists. My neighborhood is full of Focus on the Family employees and lots of Mormons. Let me just put it this way... the former definately do *not* like the Latter... Day Saints.

Oooh, bad pun. But still, the two of them don't get along, and it's not the Mormons' fault.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 08:30 AM
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28. What? You don't think it's a lock for Duncan Hunter???
:rofl:
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 08:47 AM
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29. One more snooze candidate
because 8 wasnt' quit enough. It looks like I'll be sitting 2008 out if we keep comin' up with shit like this.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:10 AM
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30. If you don't volunteer for a presidential candidate in 2008,
...then volunteer for a House or Senate candidate. Or a local candidate.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:32 AM
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32. My dear,
I've been volunteering for candidates since 1972. When I say "sit this one out" I meant that I won't be voting for the Democrat for president this year IF Gore doesn't run.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 01:22 PM
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46. You'll vote in the other races in November 2008,
...but not in the presidential race if Gore doesn't run?
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 06:38 PM
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55. I didn't say I wouldn't vote for president
but if the Democratic power brokers run another DLC loser, and it looks like they will, there are other options available to me.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:23 AM
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31. Doubt it. McCain is running hard to grab the Right's vote
The Democrats' gains will have the perverse effect of draining moderates out of the GOP. Who ever can pander to the right and still maintain a "centrist" reputation with the media will get it. That looks like McCain to me. Romney won't even get a fair hearing among most hardcore conservatives.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:40 AM
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33. DIdn't he get nailed for those crappy tunnel repairs or something like that?
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 10:11 AM
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36. His defense is that he had been thwarted in his attempts to improve system
Accident happened on I-90 turnpike where oversight was by independent turnpike authority management that he had previously criticized and was trying to change. His proposals for major restructuring did not succeed until after the accident so he took some blame.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:48 AM
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34. A caller to C-SPAn yesterday said Catholics were going to hell...
If the Catholics are going to hell, where are the Mormons going? This is a hard sell to the right-wing religious nuts in the base of the Republican Party.
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 10:26 AM
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38. Fundies still prefer anti-abortion Romney to a pro-choice Dem or Rep
I don't think his religion is such a hard sell with fundies because they are more concerned with where they are going if they vote for a pro-choice candidate or one who is not strongly against gay marriage. Romney passes their litmus test on those two issues along with his numerous other right wing creds.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 10:17 AM
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37. A president named "Mitt?!"
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:45 PM
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54. He can always say it's really just "Milt" mispelled. Yikes, a president named Milt?!
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rep the dems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 11:03 AM
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40. I'd love to see him as their nominee.
He would get his stupid mormon ass handed to him.
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cadmium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 11:41 AM
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41. I am afraid that you are right.
Buchanan gave him a subtle boost on Scarborough.

He can raise money at the drop of a hat---He could have 50 million ready to go in an instant.

He has a squeaky clean image and can fool a lot of people.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 02:18 PM
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47. Dear God no. He is worse than GW bush.
I will leave the country. The people of the U.S. will see through that charlatan.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 02:21 PM
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48. Disagree. He wants to run, but he is not going to succeed.
But he certainly pleases the DC media.
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 03:37 PM
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53. Pretty good chance
The Republicans are facing a devil's choice: John McCain (who they view as a political apostate) and Mitt Romney (who they view as a religious apostate).

An awful lot of Right-wingers view John McCain as unfavorably as liberal Democrats now view Joe Lieberman (despite McCain's recent ass-kissing).

Despite Mormon prejudice, my guess is many of them will support Mitt Romney over McCain, viewing Romney as more politically loyal.

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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 07:27 PM
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56. 2008
No its going to be Condoloser Rice-A-Roni and Erskine Bowles in 2008

RICE/BOWLES 2008
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 07:27 PM
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58. A Massachusetts Mormon?
He and Giuliani will never get the nod.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 07:32 PM
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59. Agree. STRONGLY. nt
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