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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 07:51 PM
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The repuke slime machine.......
Is in full gear. God,these people are so full of hate it's ridiculous.This was sent to me by my sister's husband.It's beneath them (repukes) to say anything good about anyone....they are all full of such poisoness venom it's truly pathetic. I am amazed at how they can be this vile and still claim God,the American flag,patriotism,and this country as their own. When I read this,I became physically sick,and that's no joke.Take a look.... :puke: :puke: :puke:


In a message dated 2/8/2004 7:41:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, MIKER77506 writes:
It's also interesting that no one who served WITH Kerry has spoken up for
him. The grunt that Kerry saved knew him for one day from the story I
read. Perhaps when Kerry gets further along, these old buddies will
show.

Rick


On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 10:42:47 -0700 <mikef111> writes:
A Vietnam Vet Against Kerry

Our posts on John Kerry have elicited many grateful and supportive
responses from Vietnam War vets. We have no standing of any kind to do
anything but honor Kerry for his distinguished war service. I think we
differ with Kerry nowadays on the justice of the war, the honor of the
American cause, the respect due the men who served and the nature of
their service. To our knowledge, Kerry has never apologized for his
utterly disgusting defamation of all echelons of the American military in
the war.

This evening we received an interesting message on the subject of Kerry
and the war. The writer has provided identifying information that allows
us to authenticate his own service, although he has asked us to withhold
his name and other identifying information. Our reader writes:

I've been reading your blog regularly for some months now, and appreciate
it for a number of reasons. I grew up in St. Paul, on Selby Avenue (early
to mid-50's), then West St. Paul. Graduated from Sibley High School in
'63, and went on to the University of Minnesota ('63-'66). In May '66, I
quit the U and enlisted in the infantry because I wanted to go to
Vietnam.

I joined the 9th Infantry Division at Ft. Riley, KS, which had been newly
activated, and which was to train as a unit, then deploy to Vietnam. I
became a rifle squad leader in the 4th battalion, 47th Infantry, and we
deployed to Vietnam in Jan '67. My battalion was a part of the Mobile
Riverine force in the Mekong Delta. We were the first American units in
the Delta, and 1967 was a year of hard fighting down there. I was very
lucky. I finished my 1-year tour with the 9th Division, then extended my
tour and went to the Tactical Operations Center (TOC) at II Field force
HQ, which was a bit north of Saigon, at Long Binh.

I extended my tour two more times, spending 16 months there in the TOC,
as an Operations NCO. My 3-year enlistment was over in May '69, and I
came home to St. Paul. I had spent 28 months in Vietnam. I had earned the
Combat Infantryman's Badge, Bronze Star w/"V" Device w/2 Oak Leaf
Clusters, two Air Medals, a Purple Heart (for a very slight wound), an
Army Commendation Medal, and the Vietnamese Cross For Gallantry (awarded
quite liberally by the gov't of SVN). The Mobile Riverine Force had
earned a Presidential Unit Citation for its 1967 campaigns.

I relate all of the above to establish my credentials as a critic of John
F. Kerry (hereinafter referred to as "that Prick"). I know a little about
how the award system worked in Vietnam. If you did something worthy of an
award, it first had to be brought to the attention of your commander, who
would then check with witnesses, and so on, and decide (in accordance
with the governing Army regulation, AR 672-something) what the action
merited.

If everything was confirmed and approved, an officer (normally the
original witness) would write the citation describing the action. All of
this was then forwarded to whatever command level was required by the AR
to approve that particular award. A Silver Star requires something quite
extraordinary in the infantry. I cannot be sure, but I don't recall ANY
Silver Stars awarded in '67 to any soldier in the MRF, and that's a full
year of fighting by 3 entire infantry battalions.

Now comes before us that Prick.

That Prick spent a 6-month tour on a small warship off the coast of
Vietnam, which service undoubtedly required him occasionally to miss a
full night's sleep in his air-conditioned cabin. This "tour" doesn't even
count. He spent some time Stateside, no doubt basking in his "veteran"
status among pallid ensigns, then took a deep breath and returned to
Vietnam. This time, he wangled his way onto a Swift Boat, which from a
grunt's point of view is pretty cushy duty. It is entirely possible that
that Prick actually fired a weapon sometime between Dec '67, and Mar '68,
since he has made references to dead civilians of both sexes and all ages
during this period. During this same period, that Prick received 3
fragment wounds from RPG's which missed him and his boat. All 3 of these
were band-aid wounds (same as mine).

In Mar '68, a lone VC fired an RPG at that Prick's boat, resulting in
another miss. One of the crewmen answered this with about 50 rounds from
a twin-mount 50 cal MG, wounding the VC, who jumped out of sight. That
Prick beached the boat (dumb dumb dumb) where the VC had been, jumped
ashore, found the wounded VC, killed him, and returned to the boat with
the offending RPG launcher. For this "action," an infantry PFC wouldn't
have gotten so much as a pat on the back, but that Prick ended up with a
Silver Star! How could this have come about? Well, remember...the
commander has to recommend the award. That Prick WAS the commander in
this little incident. Do you think...? Is it possible...? That Prick was
in command of 4 or 5 enlisted sailors, and chances are, none of them was
much good at writing up an award recommendation, soooo...

With his Silver Star pinned on his spotless Navy whites, that Prick
immediately requested reassignment under the official (or maybe
unofficial) "three Purple Hearts" rule, which allowed anyone so
grievously damaged to return to the US early. So ended a grueling stay of
almost 4 months of combat heroism.

I have always been proud of my Vietnam service. I spent a total of 14
years as an infantry NCO, served in Germany, and a number of post here in
the US. The young men I was lucky enough to lead and serve with in 1967
(almost all of them draftees) were GOLD. We who survived remain close to
each other to this day.

Now, everywhere I turn, I see and hear journalists who constantly refer
to that Prick's "chestful of medals," and "heroism in Vietnam." I am
insulted, disgusted, deeply offended by all of this. I speak for no one
but myself, but I expect that there are plenty of other Vietnam veterans
who feel as I do. And I won't even get started on his shameless behavior
with the VVAW, when he claimed to speak for us, and announced to the
world that we were all cold-blooded war criminals.

From my point of view, John F. Kerry is a charlatan and a whore. The mere
thought that he MIGHT end up in the White House is appalling, and truly
frightening.
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 07:56 PM
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1. Ugh - I stopped at "That Prick"
Edited on Sun Feb-08-04 07:58 PM by eileen_d
You might also be interested in this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=293088&mesg_id=293088

And the claim that "no one who served WITH Kerry has spoken up for
him" is a bald-faced lie.

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/clips/news_2003_0818d.html

Edited to change link - I mean, a keyword search for "veterans" on Kerry's site is enough to debunk that bullshit :grr:
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 07:58 PM
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2. Welcome to Hugh Shelton's World of Smear
Let's pay off a couple veterans to slime your "war hero" candidate.

Been there, done that. Welcome to the election.
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 07:59 PM
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3. I don't much like Kerry, but...
...that's way over the top.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 07:59 PM
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4. Oh, he's right
George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz all did much more honorable military service for the US.

:eyes:
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 08:00 PM
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5. Yeesh
Expect more of this crap whoever gets nominated.
Why don't we have a dirty tricks machine on our side? Other than ethics, I mean...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 08:00 PM
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6. Yep full of hate
after all that Prick went through BUDs and was a SEAL if memory serves

hence much of what is written in comendations is VERY GENERAL for a reason.

Oh and everybody who has earned an idiocy award (aka a medal) usually deserves it... even if the prick (Kerry... the hate is amazing) just pulled a trooper from the water while under fire.

This also speaks of the at times hate between the Army and the Navy... and in particular the Special Forces community... many grunts raelly despised the SEALS and still do despise the SEALS... this is what I also read here.
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Stupdworld Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 10:16 PM
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7. yawn
hate is hate. hate for bush. hate for kerry. no offense guys and gals, but we say the same genre of thing about bush.

aka

nothing new here, ya know?
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 12:15 AM
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8. John Kerry has never tried to take this country down......
Edited on Mon Feb-09-04 12:16 AM by buff2
like that unelected fraud squatting in the people's house.There is a HUGE difference between the two.Too bad you still have your blinders on.
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