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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:02 PM
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Who should be VP?
Regardless of who wins the nomination? All candidates in the running for President now should be off limits, for the purposes of this discussion.

Bill Richardson of NM is my number one choice. He's a Westerner, Hispanic, experienced in federal govt. and executive branch govt. Are there any drawbacks? (He wasn't very nice to Dean <I'm for Dean>, but politics is frequently not very nice.)

Who else should be considered?
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:05 PM
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1. Max!
Max Cleland would be an excellent choice for any candidate. He is from the south, progressive, and a war veteran.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:09 PM
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2. VP Ideas
If not one of the current candidates...

Bob Graham - Fl
Very illustrious career as a two-term governor & three term senator. He says he wants to retire, but...Very solid on issues, matching what many Dems want & strong on security. May help in the South. Thing is, he has no charisma.

Dick Gephardt
Help in Mid-West. Strong Labor ties.

Hillary Clinton
Why not? She's very popular. The Republicans would be spitting mad. Don't see it helping electorally, though.

Ralph Nader
No kidding, if the party wants to show it isn't ignoring its liberal wing. Doubt he'd accept, though.
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:12 PM
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6. NO Clintons, please
Not that I am a "hater" but Hillary on the ticket would completely take the focus of the presidential candidate.
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:10 PM
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3. Graham...southern, from Florida, and I believe against the war!
!
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:11 PM
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4. VP
Max Cleland.:)
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:12 PM
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5. Evan Bayh of the DLC should be Vice President
He represents what the Democratic Party is truly about.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:13 PM
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7. Well...
:puke: to that!
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childslibrarian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:19 PM
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12. I second this
for strategic reasons
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 06:38 PM
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21. glad there is some agreement!
With Bayh as Veep, NO ONE can accuse the Democrats of being a bunch of liberals!
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MikeGalos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:16 PM
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8. Two possibles
Senator Bob Graham (D-FL) - Southern, expert on terrorism, well liked in Florida which would hurt not only Bush but any chances for a Jeb Bush candidacy in 2008

Governor Gary Locke (D-WA) - liberal, rising star in party, Asian-American which would show diversity without pushing the "I couldn't vote for one of them" button in closet bigots.
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thelocalkgb Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:18 PM
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9. Bill Richardson...
Gov. Richardson would be a great choice, but I think he has repeatedly stated that he would not accept a running mate position because he feels a great responsibility to the state of NM to fill out the rest of his term.

I think Max Cleland would be a great choice.

Anyone would be better than the choice for 2000 - I don't know what Al Gore was thinking, Joe Lieberman didn't help that ticket in any way. :shrug:
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MurikanDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:18 PM
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10. Depends on the nominee
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politick Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:18 PM
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11. I like Richardson, too
Edited on Sun Feb-08-04 05:19 PM by politick
I thought he was gonna get the nod in 2000. He'd make a great choice demographically. I really don't know much about where he stands on issues, though. I just know he was the Energy Secy under Clinton, and now gov. of NM.

do you know anything about him?

(edited for grammar)
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OutlawCorporatePolls Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:30 PM
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13. ron paul
Edited on Sun Feb-08-04 05:32 PM by OutlawCorporatePolls
but under dean and on a new 3rd party called "the tea party". go right and grab someone like ron paul and get busy pulling from both parties imho.

http://www.house.gov/paul/
http://www.house.gov/paul/bio.htm
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:30 PM
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15. Paul is very close to being a racist.
No thank you!
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OutlawCorporatePolls Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:35 PM
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17. yea right
nice try. its amazing how little so many people know. lol.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul68.html
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politick Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:44 PM
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19. I just read the link
and it sounds a little... forced. The free market is the ultimate liberator? The federal gov't ignores goodwill among men? Hmm. I'm really not sure where I stand on federal dicta of the kind Ron Paul os arguing against, but I'm not sure his idea of the world is the operative one.

I do agree that this "collectivism" he refers to can be defeatist, and that there SHOULD be more emphasis on the individual, but not at the expense of people NOT in the majority.

Interesting. I'll have to read more on DR. Paul.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 06:41 PM
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22. the DemocraticParty is Pro-Free Market
The Democratic Party is a Capitalist Party. We believe in corporations as the best economic organization. Ron Paul would be great as VP. If not him, Evan Bayh!

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 06:55 PM
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23. If not Ron Paul or Evan Bayh, how about the spirit of Ayn Rand?
True that in life she was not eligible because she was born in Russia, but her spirit was born in the US because it's where she died!

If not the spirit of Ayn Rand, how about the spirit of '76 or the spirit of St. Louis?
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politick Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:37 PM
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18. how so?
I know I've definitely read stuff about him on FTW.com and elsewhere, and he seems like a good voice in opposition to Bush. I'm curious why you say that? What should I know about him?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:50 PM
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20. He's essentially a Libertarian.
Rack Jite used to have tons of outrageous Ron Paul quotes on his Website cataloguing the stupidities of the right wing. On the war, Paul has been faultless, but when he talks about taxes, education and race, he's a right wing as they come.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:30 PM
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14. He was the UN rep, and an architect of the Clinton North Korea
policy, which beats the Bush NK policy by several thousand miles.
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Indiana Democrat Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 05:35 PM
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16. Evan Bayh.
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election_2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 07:15 AM
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24. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones
She'll carry Ohio.

She'll energize the black vote.

She'll energize the women's vote.

She'll energize the progressive vote.

As a former prosecutor, she'll take down Cheney in the debates.
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