One photo is worth 1,000 words (show this to Kerry-bashing GOPers)

[KansDem]

Kerry only reminded us of what we all knew already about this "war"


Marine recruiters in Flint, Michigan approaching teenagers outside a shopping mall to enlist them in the military.

Michael Moore

[JuniperLea]

1. I don't get it

Can you enlighten me?

[KansDem]

9. This might help to explain it...

In the 2004 film Sgt Plouhar is shown approaching young African American men in the car park of a shopping mall in one of the poorest parts of Flint, and assuring them that joining the Marine Corps could help them become professional basketball players.

He tells his fellow recruiter he chose the location deliberately because it was in a depressed area. "It's better to get them when they're in ones and twos and work on them that way," Sgt Plouhar tells the recruiter.

Common Dreams

[JuniperLea]

12. What does that have to do with what Kerry said?

Or what the RWNuts are trying to say he said?

Are you saying these young men are stupid because they are black and/or poor?

[KansDem]

14. see post no. 9...(eom)

[JuniperLea]

16. Ermmmm.... I'm responding to post 9! Which makes no sense...

Not even close.

[KansDem]

18. What part of "poorest parts" and "depressed area" don't you understand?

It's like I tell my 14-year-old daughter when her grades slip a little. It's all about OPTIONS. It's not about getting good grades to get a good job, it's all about options.

Get good grades and she could be a lawyer or a teacher. Or she can join the military if she chooses. IT'S ALL ABOUT OPTIONS!

If she gets bad grades, she can forget about becoming a lawyer or teacher. She can go into the military though...especially now that the standards have been lowered because of the war in Iraq.

"education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

That's what I inferred from Kerry's remark: Get an education and have options, or don't and be used as canon fodder by the Bushistas...

[ima_sinnic]

21. by "you" will get stuck in Iraq, he meant a dumb@$$ like *

he meant, you will be so stupid you get (your troops and the entire country) stuck in (a quagmire in) Iraq.

sheesh.

[KansDem]

22. I used Kerry's statement to reinforce the concept of "options"

...with my 14-year-old daughter. She understood the context. As for the reference to Bush, she already knows he's a dumbass.

[hippiechick]

17. The OP is saying that ...

.. with regard to Kerry's statement about "study hard or you'll end up in Iraq", this photo is proof because OH, lookit! A Marine Recruiter trying to con these guys into thinking that enlisting is going to help them get into the NBA - as if they'd have no other aspirations ?!?

It's the RECRUITER that's a racist, classist asshat; not Kerry, not the original poster.

[gratuitous]

2. Gee, why aren't they at Beverly Hills High School?

Or Andover? Or Don Bosco Tech?

[redqueen]

3. His misquoted jokes tell more truth than the republics on their best days. n/t

[NVMojo]

23. I agree

[HughBeaumont]

4. One of the recruiters is dead, IIRC.

Unfortunately killed in Bewshco's Oil Debacle.

[KansDem]

7. You are correct...

Fahrenheit 9/11 Marine Recruiter Killed in Iraq
by Suzanne Goldenberg

The US Marine recruiter pictured in Fahrenheit 9/11 trying to persuade young men from the bleak town of Flint, Michigan, to enlist has been killed by a roadside bomb in Iraq, the Pentagon said.

Marine recruiters in Flint, Michigan approaching teenagers outside a shopping mall to enlist them in the military.

"Maybe we can get you a career in music, you know, let the Marines go for it. I'm sure you know who Shaggy is, right? How about a former Marine? Did you know that?"

Staff Sergeant Raymond Plouhar, 30, died on Monday of wounds suffered while on duty in Anbar province. He had barely a month left of his tour of duty in Iraq, where he was in charge of detecting and detonating makeshift bombs.

Sgt Plouhar had been angered by his depiction in the anti-war movie, where he was shown aggressively pressing young men to enlist, his family told the Detroit Free Press.

The Marine Corps later accused the film's maker, Michael Moore, of duping its recruiting teams into allowing their work to be caught on camera.

Common Dreams

[DemGa]

5. What does this have to do with Kerry's flubbing a line??

[JuniperLea]

10. Good question

Is the OP (and others on this thread) saying these young men are stupid? Because they are black? Because they are poor?

[KansDem]

13. ...nice try...

I didn't say it...(see post no. 9)

[JuniperLea]

15. Post 9 makes no sense... nothing to do with what Kerry said

OR what the RWNuts are trying to say he said.

[KansDem]

19. See post no. 18 (eom)

[silverweb]

6. Exactly.

As others also have, I've been saying this all along.

Whichever way it came out, what Kerry said was 100% true.

Now, when will our media drop this nonsense and address the current _Siege of Baghdad_, which threatens our young men and women stuck in that hellhole?

[Sapere aude]

8. You are assuming that the teen is a drop out or poor student and that

Kerry said poor students end up in the military right?

[KansDem]

11. No, see post 9...(eom)

[cobaindrain]

20. watch Roger and Me by Michael Moore

All you need to know about Flint, it's easy to see why recruiters would prey there.