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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:06 AM
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Bloomberg, Lieberman, Schumer, Lamont: What's up?
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/28/nyregion/28bloomberg....

1. Bloomberg is now actively helping Lieberman, the non-Dem favorite of the vast majority of the republican electorate.


2. The DEM candidate for Senate in CT. relies heavily on the help of the DSCC which is chaired by Senator Schumer.

3. Senator Schumer's wife is a high level appointee ( Transportation Commissioner) in the Bloomberg administration.

4. Prior to the Lamont primary upset, Senator Schumer made clear his preference for Lieberman. Now he's backing Lamont (publically, anyway.)

5. Schumer, Bloomberg and Lieberman all enthusiastically backed the war. Schumer has since recanted - sort of. The other two want more, more, more. The advisability of the war... and the determination of it's architects to pursue it indefinitely... is the defining issue in the CT race.

Anyone besides me feel uncomfortable with Schumer's position as DSCC head? Especially since Bloomberg's now sending city employees ( not Commissioner Weinshall, at least not yet) to essentially keep the senate in GOP control. ( Yes, I realize that that may not be B's specific intent; but it will very possibly the outcome of his intervention.)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:10 AM
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1. I'm uncomfortable with Schumer ever since his war vote.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:14 AM
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2. I wonder if Mayor Michael Bloomberg's actions are legal.
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 11:15 AM by Eric J in MN
The city employees sent to help Lieberman may officially be on vacation, but are they losing vacation days or salary?

Is Michael Bloomberg giving city employees who want to work for a Democrat the same chance to leave and return?

City employees are supposed to be working for the people will live in New York City.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:30 AM
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6. Good question. I'm a NYC employee myself....
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 11:31 AM by PaulHo
>>Is Michael Bloomberg giving city employees who want to work for a Democrat the same chance to leave and return?>>

...full disclosure and all that.

Let's put it this way, no one's asked me if I can take a leave to do political work in another state.

The short answer is: the city would reject any application I submitted in that regard.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:16 AM
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3. Phooey; link doesn't work; here's the story.
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 11:17 AM by PaulHo
From yesterday's Times.

y DIANE CARDWELL
Published: October 28, 2006

In his battle for re-election to the United States Senate without the backing of the Democratic Party, Joseph I. Lieberman is deploying a secret weapon in the race’s closing days: a sophisticated operation to identify and turn out voters, courtesy of Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg.
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Connecticut Senate

Andrew Henderson for The New York Times

Putting together “Vote for Joe” bags for Election Day are, from left, Ariel Dvorkin, Brian Honan and Crystal Cook.

The Bloomberg group includes several top-level operatives who played key roles in the mayor’s decisive re-election last year or who are in the administration, and have taken leaves from their jobs to work on Mr. Lieberman’s campaign.

Since Mr. Lieberman lost the Democratic primary in Connecticut to Ned Lamont, they have helped open campaign offices, devised a strategy to reach voters and are corralling enough volunteers to cover 2,800 shifts at more than 700 polling sites on Election Day, Nov. 7.

Given that Mr. Lieberman does not have a party apparatus to help build his field operation, the efforts of the Bloomberg team could prove critical in one of the most closely watched races in the nation.

“There is no independent network,” said Stu Loeser, Mr. Bloomberg’s chief spokesman, who played the same role in the re-election effort. “To a certain extent, we were the last independent campaign.”

The workers on loan are the most vivid example yet of how Mr. Bloomberg, a Republican who often breaks with his party on issues, could build a permanent political apparatus to support like-minded independent candidates across the country — if not a national bid for himself.

With his 2005 re-election campaign behind him, Mr. Bloomberg has been relishing his role as kingmaker, endorsing Gov. Rod Blagojevich in Illinois and Gov. M. Jodi Rell in Connecticut, raising money for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in California and appearing in a television commercial for Representative Christopher Shays in Connecticut. (Mr. Blagojevich is a Democrat, and the others are Republicans.)

But his work for Mr. Lieberman, which includes substantial fund-raising and Mr. Bloomberg’s first out-of-state stumping in addition to the gift of manpower, marks his most intense and direct engagement in someone else’s political bid. It may not only broaden his image of nonpartisan, influence-free pragmatism, but it could also test how well his political machine can function in an independent campaign with national repercussions.

Just after losing the Democratic primary, Mr. Lieberman’s campaign enlisted Josh Isay, who had worked on Mr. Bloomberg’s re-election campaign, as the new media consultant. From his administration, the mayor dispatched Korinne Kubena, the chief of staff to Kevin Sheekey, a deputy mayor who oversaw Mr. Bloomberg’s two mayoral campaigns, to direct the get-out-the-vote effort for Mr. Lieberman. Brian Honan, who was the deputy field director in the mayoral campaign and now works in the Bloomberg administration’s state lobbying operation, is serving as Ms. Kubena’s deputy.

Ariel Dvorkin, an administration aide, is helping compile a voter database for Mr. Lieberman; Josh Gold, who was on Mr. Bloomberg’s campaign field staff, is now the deputy director of Mr. Lieberman’s Stamford campaign office; and Neil Giacobbi, who became chief of staff to City Councilman David Yassky after running the volunteer effort for Mr. Bloomberg, is the director of the Lieberman office in Stamford.

“The mayor has obviously decided to try to make a difference in a few races in which he believes in the candidate,” Mr. Sheekey said. “In some places you can help them by doing a fund-raiser in New York, others where you can help by showing up for a day, and others where you can help by putting folks on the ground.”

Lieberman aides say that Mr. Bloomberg brings a certain gloss and legitimacy to Connecticut, where he appears to have a strong appeal.

“He is an icon of independence and straight talk and putting the public interest over party consideration,” said Dan Gerstein, Mr. Lieberman’s communication director. “He’s a great practitioner and advocate for the kind of politics Joe Lieberman practices.”

Aides to both men say they have known each other since before Mr. Bloomberg became mayor and admire each other’s accomplishments and independent streaks. Described as having a casual, friendly relationship, they have run into each other at events in Washington over the years and have worked together on various issues involving the city, including domestic security.

Capitalizing on all this, the Lieberman campaign plans for Mr. Bloomberg to greet commuters with the senator on Monday morning in Stamford, and to attend a fund-raiser there. Mr. Bloomberg headlined a fund-raiser in Chicago this week, which raised close to $230,000, according to the campaign. He plans to hold a third fund-raiser at his Upper East Side town house on Wednesday.

Lieberman aides say the money the mayor is raising is crucial, but it is the staff additions that represent an unusual degree of engagement for Mr. Bloomberg and show how he has developed his own potent political team to deploy as he wishes.

That team brings with it an approach that has been under development for some time and is similar to the one that President Bush used in his re-election bid in 2004. For Mr. Bloomberg’s first bid in 2001, Mr. Sheekey said, the campaign engaged in a targeting operation that merged voter information with consumer data to identify potential supporters and tailor specific messages to them. That method allows campaigns to identify voters by tastes and habits whether or not they live in an area where support for a particular party is strong.

In that 2001 campaign, outreach was primarily through mail and telephone, since the campaign could not recruit a strong contingent of workers on behalf of a political unknown, Mr. Sheekey said.

By 2005, though, the Bloomberg team was able to bolster its voter identification effort with an aggressive operation involving 50,000 workers fanning out through the city to knock on doors and reinforce the mayor’s message, Mr. Sheekey said.

With a version of that machine in Connecticut, Mr. Bloomberg’s aides are coy about where it might go next, particularly whether to support other like-minded candidates or even the mayor himself.

“There are a lot of things the mayor had done in his campaign which the Lieberman campaign needed,” Mr. Sheekey said. “You get involved in races where you want to make a difference and where you can make a difference, in that order.”
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:21 AM
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4. Schumer is not my senator, but for
quite some time I have been uncomfortable concerning him. All politicians are "scripted", but for some reason Schumer seems more so than others. And I can't seem to pinpoint exactly what it is that disturbs me. It is just an uneasy feeling and I can be very very wrong.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 07:23 AM
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15. I'd be inclined to trust your instincts on this one. n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:21 AM
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5. Democrats for Bloomberg...Dems for Joe..
There is a lot of stuff going on in that connection. I wrote about the Democrats for Bloomberg last year. One of them was married to the DNC's longtime finance director.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/499

Do a search on bloomberg, democrats, or Democrats for Bloomberg. All of these people are so interconnected and so involved in the Democratic party that I don't begin to understand it.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:42 AM
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7. Yer on to somethin'. I don't think they *want* you to...
>>> All of these people are so interconnected and so involved in the Democratic party that I don't begin to understand it.>>>

...'understand' it. Hence the lack of media... even print media... attention to the back-and-forth between NYC RW DEMS and ummm.... "moderate" republicans like Bloomberg.


How many people even know,for example, that Iris Weinshall is *married* to Schumer? According to Wikipedia, she's 'keeping a low profile'...that's for sure... esp since the ferry catastrophe, a DOT fiasco that occurred on her watch.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:55 AM
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8. Here's another link....
from Steve Gilliard's blog, more about the Democrats for Bloomberg.

http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com/2005/09/your-deeds-and-words-should-match.html

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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 06:38 PM
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14. Thanks. Great read. But I think Bloomberg's popularity...
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 06:40 PM by PaulHo
>>>>I think it's time to ask why these people are supporting a Republican. What are their reasons? They're his friends? Or are they afraid of having a Puerto Rican mayor? Which is it?

Because I don't see many other reasons to support the ever mute Bloomberg.>>>>

... with some DEMS is pretty uncomplicated. He *BUYS* them. Perhaps I should be more delicate : good things come to them when they find good things to say about B.

To wit: Margarita Lopez... the ultra left, 'off with their heads', fire-breathing, Madame Du Farge of the lower east side in the 1990s. Term limited from running for reelection to the City Council, she shocked some folks ( not me) by endorsing Bloomberg for reelection last year. Over her fellow DEM, fellow progressive, fellow Latino , Fernando Ferrer."It's not like Bloomberg was a *real* republican", she offered lamely'.

Savvy observers waited for the other shoe to drop.They didn't wait long. This summer our little Rosa Luxembourg was appointed commissioner of something or other by a mayor who was mighty impressed by Lopez managerial talents.

She's now pulling in about 170,000 tax dollars a year. Lucky gal, that Margarita.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:59 AM
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9. And people were saying the same about Bloomberg ...
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 11:59 AM by madfloridian
as they are saying now about Lieberman...he's going to win anyway so let's not piss him off.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:43 PM
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13. and I would guess some are HELPING him win to use him for their own
battles against the "withdrawal" wing of the party.
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lcordero2 Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:17 PM
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10. I guess it's time that I change my vote regsitration to (I)
The Dem candidates have been stacked with so many war lie supporters that they are no better than the republicans.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:20 PM
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11. Keep that D to vote for your preferred primary candidate.
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lcordero2 Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:33 PM
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12. In NY
It doesn't make a difference.

After this election, I'm not going to the voting booth again. Getting the (I) is out of anger.

After the "Yassky Gambit", all of the attacking of black charities in order to liquidate their assets, and all of the talk of kicking 1,000 black people to build a sports complex for the Nets...I have better things to do than waste my time.

The Iraq withdrawal is not going to be won in the voting booth, it is going to be won on the street, just like it happened for Vietnam.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:11 PM
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16. If it campaigns with a repuke and kisses up to repukes..
it might be a repuke. Whaddaya think, Joementum? :puke:
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:28 PM
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17. I'm glad Schumer is DSCC head...
because he's shrewd and is the polar opposite of RSCC chair Elizabeth Dole in terms of ability. This is about winning back the Senate. Schumer is not up for reelection here.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:33 PM
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19. That's my point. If he's as invested as he is in Bloomberg...
>>>This is about winning back the Senate.>>>

... how hard can he be working to undercut Bloomberg in the Ct. senate race? Esp. since he's ( Schumer) already expressed a pre-primary preference for Lieberman.

Lamont's victory, not Lieberman's, will further the cause of the DEMS 'winning back the senate'.

A Lieberman victory could mean *anything* in that regard.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:36 PM
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18. Is there any chance Bloomberg will cross back over
if he decides to run for state-wide office or Congress? He's not very conservative, obviously fits in better in our party than the other one.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:00 PM
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20. If that were true, why pull out all the stops....
>>>He's not very conservative, obviously fits in better in our party than the other one.>>>

to defeat our party's candidate for Senate in CT? Why would he jeopardize our party's chance to win back the senate?

Why would he raise more money that *any other single individual in the United States * to reelect Bush in 2004?

He's *extremely* conservative. His conservatism is obscured by the fact that he takes *positions* that one HAS to take to be taken seriously as a candidate in NYC.

Taking 'positions' is not difficult ; especially if one does nothing to follow through on them.
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