Be Prepared to WIN the Election

[wyldwolf]

No doomsday scenarios, no dire warnings of voting machines and elections frauds. No repackaged revolutionary rhetoric that we read day in and day out on DU.

No trumped up terrorism alerts or fears of the encroaching purple tinky winky menace.

I'm tired of the scare tactics from the right and the left.

I'm preparing to be part of the majority party.

[Boston Critic]

1. Yes, but...

I felt that way when after twenty years of voting I finally voted for the winning presidential candidate in '92.

If we win big next week -- and I expect we will -- we will be more entitled to a moment to celebrate.
And then comes not only the hard work of governing (or, for most of us, being active and concerned citizens) but being ready to defend against the savage rear guard actions that are guaranteed to come.

Bill Clinton got no honeymoon when he took office. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid (and the Democratic majorities) will be under attack almost immediately. Offers to find "common ground" should be met with skepticism, and considered based on the track record of the person making the offer. John McCain and Orrin Hatch, odious though many of their views are, have shown a willingness to seek compromise on *some* issues.

Bush and company should not be trusted at all.

[wyldwolf]

2. "the Democratic majorities will be under attack almost immediately. "

Exactly. Be prepared to win.

Oh, you know there were several key national Democratic wins in the 20 years before '92.

[Boston Critic]

4. Pre-'92 is ancient history...

in American politics.

The Democrats winning in a landslide in the post-Watergate "Class of '74" doesn't have much relevance today, nor does the LBJ landslide of '64.

My point was that today's GOPher leadership hates what this country stands for, hates the Constitution, and hates the very concept of "bipartisanship." That is *today's* environment, and that's what a Democratic Congress faces from the very start.

[wyldwolf]

6. then why did you bring it up?

You said after 20 years of voting, you got a win in '92. What party were you voting for in that period?

[Boston Critic]

9. Learn to read

I said after twenty years of voting I finally voted for the winning presidential candidate. I didn't claim there were no Democratic victories.

I didn't vote for Carter either time and blame his miserable presidency for paving the way for Reagan and what came after. The country would have been better off if Ford had won in '76, and a Democrat then could have been elected in 1980.

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[Jim Sagle]

17. Fuckin' A.

Carter made a Republican out of me. It took Bush Sr. to turn me back into a Dem.

[wyldwolf]

51. learn to be relevant

[Boston Critic]

52. It's simple Englsh

Don't know why you're have these reading comprehension problems.

It's a plain analogy: Clinton was elected in '92, and the Republicans gave him no "honeymoon." I then predicted that a Democratic Congress elected now will suffer the same fate.

Which part of this are you unable to understand?

[wyldwolf]

54. true, so why can't you understand it?

[zanne]

58. I think this is about bridges, and crossing them...

Let's win first, OK?

[wyldwolf]

59. yes it is.

[Arugula Latte]

22. I don't think the attack will come almost immediately.

I think it will come immediately. ;)

[wyldwolf]

24. it appears it's coming right now!

[femrap]

8. And let the subpoenas from John Conyers fly!!!

The Dems must be aggressive and their cause is to clean up the repugnants' mess and corruption.

The billions wasted in Iraq...$ gone to cronies.
The billions given to the Energy Corporations.
The billions given to Big Pharma.

And last but not least, the dissolution of our Constitution and Democracy via the Military Commissions Act and the loss of the Posse Comitatus Act.

I want Watergate to look like a friendly tea party compared to what we're gonna see in 2007.

[freeplessinseattle]

3. but don't you care about my delicate psyche?

maybe those that can't handle losing can't handle winning either, didja ever think of that, huh?
I might need someone to hold my hand and keep me from hyperventilating from excitement, why don't you care about warning me about my own lack of emotional fortitude like all the caring doomsday posters do?

[wyldwolf]

5. heh! Sorry. I'm known for my bluntness.

Actually, I believe there are some folks who really don't want to win because, to them, it isn't the kill but the thrill of the chase.
I prefer to go for the jugular.

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[petgoat]

30. Me too. That's why I'm here today. nt

[Karenca]

35. Same reason that I'm here. nt

[wyldwolf]

11. uh oh! This thread is on the greatest page now

Whatever will the doomsday wing of the party do now that there are some here who are preparing to win?

[Quantess]

39. Lesseeee...how about

trolling here.:evilfrown:
upon edit: kicked & recommended

[The Count]

12. Happy for ya. How will you celebrate? (bookmarking this)

I mean everyone here is preparing to do their best for a victory - some also ponder how to deal with a 3rd theft in a row. But if 2 thoughts are too difficult to hold in one's head, let's talk celebrations...

[wyldwolf]

13. an event where every Democrat that ran in this election cycle...

... in my district (including state and national level) primary and general, won or lost, is invited and personally thanked for their part in the victory.

[The Count]

34. Sounds good! Still got my champagne in the fridge since our primaries

when I was hoping for at least a decent showing for Tasini...

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[wyldwolf]

16. LOL

Right.

Merely winning is obviously a sell-out to you. Because with a victory, you'll have much less to whine about.

[mrgorth]

19. Winning is a means to an end

the end being helping people. A real health care plan, responsible foreign policy, balanced budget and raising the minimum wage would be a good start.

edit to add: And trade policy that doesn't sell our people down the river.

[wyldwolf]

25. sure. But If all the rich people (like me? LOL!) are going to "sell you out.."

Maybe you should just stay home on election day. You obviously don't believe Dem wins will help.

[mrgorth]

37. No

It has nothing to do with your wealth. It's your (specifically) policies. A dem win could mean great things. I hope to God they do the right thing with any power they might attain this time. I just don't expect those good things to come from the likes of Al From.

[Jim Sagle]

18. And so will I . It beats working!

;)

[babsbunny]

15. I was looking for something to cheer me up........

Thank You for This Post! :pals:

[Gregorian]

20. Yes. But it's hard to call inheriting a train wreck winning.

Winning won't be winning and then discovering we lost.
It will make Rush's blathering seem unimportant.
It will be easier than what we're doing now.
It will be full of resent.
It will be like cleaning up after a 200 year frat party.
It will feel good to return to sanity.
The trophy is tarnished.

[NoPasaran]

21. I am looking forward to winning!

And then continuing the fight until the country where I live once again resembles the country where I grew up.
:toast:

[Jack Rabbit]

23. !!

Ladies and gentleman, please join in singing . . .

Our National Anthem

As sung by its author
(the fellow on the left of this post)

[Pyrzqxgl]

31. This Land is their land

and its not our land
from their plush apartments
to their Cadillac car land
From their Wall Street office
to their Hollywood star land
This land is not for you and me

So take your slogans and kindly stow it
if this is our land you'd never knows it
Lets join together and OVERTHROW it
this LAND IS NOT FOR YOU & ME!!!! Yet!!!

[Odin2005]

26. We're gonna kick some ass on 11/7!

:patriot: :party: :hippie: :beer:

[wyldwolf]

27. yep! And some of us are even happy about it!

[The Count]

33. I don't know anybody who wouldn't be happy about it

I mean, except BFEE&friends.

[wyldwolf]

44. look at post 54 for starters.

[Zynx]

28. All the pessimism and doomsday talk is a lot of crap.

We never had numbers approaching these going into any election since 1996 or even close. They won't beat us on turnout. The turnout advantage only adds fractions of percents. They've never overturned double digit leads.

[rucky]

29. I'm ready for anything:

I have a bottle of champagne for a victory, and a bottle of whiskey for a loss.

[gully]

32. Hope you're right.

I've bookmarked this thread so I can congratulate you in such an event.

[Clarkie1]

36. Which brings up the obvious question...what are we prepared to do when we win?

I say:

#1 election reform, paper-trail balloting, etc.
#2 everything else

[Laurab]

38. Nice to see a thread like this

While I put nothing past this mis-administration, I think it's finally beyond their control, this train-wreck of theirs. We WILL take back the majority, and then, we have a LOT of work to do cleaning up after them.

GOTV!!

[McCamy Taylor]

40. I am aboard! I will even tell you why. Its the "Chavez is gonna hack

the election" Terra warning that just got released today. That story serves no useful purpose (since it is scaring the Freepers) except to give Rove plausible deniability for a loss. I think he is looking at THE math and not liking what he sees.

That is what logic tells me anyway.

So, yes, let's start planning for what we are going to do!

[Q]

41. What a great...

...zombie society you're describing...and helping to create with your 'shut up and vote' rhetoric.

But then...that's what we have come to expect from the 'new' Democrats.

Democracy is the goal...not the compromise...or the deal...or the sell out.

[wyldwolf]

42. what a great...

... example of someone who really doesn't want to win and of the leftwing scare tactics and "repackaged revolutionary rhetoric" I mentioned in the OP.

You do know that the majority of Dem congressional candidates in the most competitive races will be joining the House New Democrat Coalition, right?

When we win, Q, the first thing I'm going to do is come on DU and gloat for all the leftwingers who fought so hard for us NOT to win.

Then I'll do the same to the rightwingers at FreeRepublic.

[Q]

47. Delusional.

The "new democratic coalition" is nothing more than a front for big business...and a cooperative effort with the Neocons to make this a one party state.

I've voted Democratic my entire life and I've never wished that they 'wouldn't win'. Your brand of McCarthyism just plain stinks...when you suggest that 'left-leaning' Democrats don't want to win.

You don't want just any Democrat to win....you and yours want a 'new democrat coalition'....GOP lite.

[wyldwolf]

48. is that how you define "factual?"

Because it is a fact that 27 of the top 40 contested House seats are being pursued by Democrats who have pledged to become members of DLC.

But you'd rather they lose.

[wyldwolf]

43. isn't it amazing how people can flame this?

[Q]

45. Your 'win happy' message...

...was nothing more than a smear at the 'progressives' and liberals that you seem to hate so much. That is...code words to tell those who disagree with your 'shut up and vote' message that they don't have a right to complain.

Why not try a more positive approach next time?

[wyldwolf]

46. so, being prepared to win is a smear at "progressives?" LOL!

Seems you're the only one in the thread who found the message not to be positive.

Could it be that you don't want the Democratic party to win next week?

[Jax]

49. What Q said

he nailed it.

Q, you are a class act and a TRUE help to the Democratic party, not the right wing 20 percent phonies.

[wyldwolf]

50. what Q didn't say

He did not nail it. He gave further indication of his belief that any win without his pet candidates or ideology is not a win but a sell-out.

He is a hindrance to the Democratic party, unlike the 80 percent of the party that are centrist.

[Jax]

53. You keep telling yourself that

I really could care less what the 22 per-centers think, they are right wing phonies who ALWAYS lose to real rethugs.

[wyldwolf]

55. He keeps proving it

they are right wing phonies who ALWAYS lose to real rethugs.

Truman
Kennedy
Clinton
Edwards
Kerry
Cleland
Hillary Clinton
Joe Biden
Joe Lieberman
Rahm Emanuel.. on ... and on...

Yep! They ALWAYS lose to real rethugs! LOL!

After we win next week, I'll remind you of that statement again.

[Jax]

56. And you will still be a 22 percenter

[wyldwolf]

57. and you'll still be 2 percenter

..and still be wrong about your statement.

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[rhett o rick]

60. Empeach then war crimes trials. nm