Where can Dean win?

[ringmastery]

If he can't win in Washington, with some of the most liberal democratic voters and who have been very receptive to his message in the past, the question has to be asked, where can he win?

[Renew Deal]

1. Maybe Vermont

on Super Tuesday

[Tweed]

2. One word

Hawaii- Feb. 23rd

[stromboli]

3. louisiana

big democratic state with blue-collar down-to-earth voters

[Tweed]

7. Great joke

At least I think you were joking... I mean, you don't actually think Dean's main supporters are blue-collar down-to-earth voters, do you?

[GodHelpUsAll2]

18. Why yes....yes I do

I am one of them. and I have walked the street and campagined with thousands of them. So to answer your question. Yes How many do you personally know to say what background thay have?

[sandnsea]

24. They vote for Kerry

In poll after poll, they vote for Kerry. Did you not see who won Michigan today???

Dean winning Louisiana. That is just too funny.

[Rationality]

27. You can't predict Louisiana

The political atmosphere there defies any formula you can write. I'd even give Kucinich a chance over there.

[newyawker99]

32. Hi Rationality!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Maddy McCall]

28. nope

I expect Edwards or Clark to take Louisiana, which is an Arkansas border state.

[MercutioATC]

4. The convention. If enough people decide that we need something different,

the battle's half won...

[Hoppin_Mad]

5. You just posted this question and had it locked !

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=288756

What are you trying to prove ?

[ringmastery]

8. It's a fair question

[Hoppin_Mad]

13. You just posted a "If Dean loses" thread

Do you think these questions will help warm the hearts of Dean supporters to your candidate kerry, should he win the nomination ?

Why are you doing this ?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=290206&mesg_id=290206

[oxymoron]

15. I missed the earlier thread.

And I responded to this thread without knowing of any affiliation between the original poster and a particular candidate. As one who has not declared for anyone yet, I do think that it is a fair question to raise. I like Dean but I am questioning his viability at this point. I am in Seattle, and not only was I surprised at his showing here, but the polls that I saw today were pretty ominous for WI, VA and TN. It is worthy of discussion IMO.

[Hoppin_Mad]

16. It's a 'tactic' - attack Dean - but not Clark, Sharpton, or Kucinich

who have less delegates than Dean, and who ( with the exception of Clark) are less viable.

The Kerry supporters who covet OUR support, organization, and fundraising so badly best look at how these negative tactics by DU Kerry supporters against Dean are hurting their candidate.

[oxymoron]

19. Sorry, I still think that it is a valid discussion.

I don't see anything wrong with discussing ALL of the candidates viability. I have seen threads asking when other candidates may leave the race etc. I also have seen many of Dean's people use some pretty nasty tactics in the past. I certainly wouldn't let that have any impact on my vote. That seems pretty short-sighted and petty to me.

[Hoppin_Mad]

20. Sorry you're unable to read ringmastery's intent

Maybe this locked post will help you.

"Tough Question for Dean supporters

Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 04:32 PM by ringmastery

If your man can't win in Washington state, a state with some of the most liberal democratic voters in the country, where can Dean win?

Why is he still in the race? Is he to become a vanity candidate like Kucinich and Sharpton?
 

[Blitz]

30. I'd say that right now, Dean, Kucinich and Sharpton

are equally viable for the nomination. They're also tied with Joe Lieberman, Dick Gephardt, Carol Moseley-Braun and Bob Graham. The only questions remaining about Dean is how he'll behave after he drops out and whether he'll be speaking at the convention (and when).

[eileen_d]

6. DU polls

;) I don't know. I try not to predict the future. Frankly, I don't care.

[ibegurpard]

9. Let me explain something to you

Some people back a candidate (and this includes Kerry supporters who stayed with him even when he was at rock bottom) because they BELIEVE in something that candidate has to say not because of some perceived notion of winability. Get it?

[oxymoron]

10. Unfortunately I just don't know.

He seems to be betting a lot on WI and he is running fourth at 9% there. I fear that the Doctor will have a very hard time staying in the race if he gets slammed in WI.

[Dagaz]

11. The Green party

I wonder if he's pissed about being chased away from this nomination. It;s clear that Edwards or Hillary will be the favorites next time unless Kerry wins.

[Tweed]

23. It's funny how unGreen Dean is

[jaysunb]

12. Why do you ask ????

What's YOUR candidate doing these days ???? Seems to me Dean has finished second or third in every state. That means more delegates.....what's your favorite democrat doing ?????

[seventhson]

14. Dean can win in the General Election

especially if he has Edwards on the ticket

[Johnyawl]

22. What makes you think he can beat Bush...

...when he can't even beat Kerry?

[MurikanDemocrat]

25. He can't win a primary, much less the GE

Face it, he's not going to last much longer.

[stickdog]

17. CA & NY (nt)

[mitchum]

21. That's the 40 + million dollar question

[OutlawCorporatePolls]

26. just the facts ma'am..

to me, its looking more and more like a kerry-dean two person race.

2004 Democratic Primary Election

Current Delegate Count

2,161 Delegates Needed To Win

1. John Kerry --- 412 (19.1% of delegates needed to win)
2. Howard Dean --- 174 (8.1% of delegates needed to win)
3. John Edwards --- 116 (5.4% of delegates needed to win)
4. Wesley Clark --- 82 (3.8% of delegates needed to win)
5. Al Sharpton --- 12 (0.2% of delegates needed to win)
6. Dennis Kucinich --- 2 (0.1% of delegates needed to win)

Source Data: USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/primariescaucus/delegatecount.htm
Updated: 6:53:10 p.m. EST February 07, 2004
Percentage Calculation: www.scandidate.info

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. The Only More Meaningless Statistics Are The Box Scores That Show

The Losing Football Team Gains More Yards Than The Winning Team In Many Games...


You have to win baby.....

[Edge]

29. With the way it's looking now...

nowhere.