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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:39 AM Original message |
Is anyone else bothered by sons of privilege becoming president? |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
1. Not if their politics are progressive |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I have no idea what your point is. |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:53 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Pretty simple, really |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Very well said. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:01 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. I disagree. I think it's a powerful, important symbol, especially today |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:31 AM Response to Reply #22 |
40. It is a powerful symbol |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:45 AM Response to Reply #40 |
50. Huh? |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:55 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. What's so confusing? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 02:01 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Move that book up to the top of your list and get back to me after you... |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 04:12 AM Response to Reply #55 |
70. Not a major effect |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:10 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Nope. People are going to say, how can it be bad if it's part of the |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:58 AM Response to Reply #5 |
19. That work hard myth doesn't work for everyone -- that's why the |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:06 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. His father was a manager who trained college graduates to do his job |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
21. yes |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:07 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Finally, SOMEONE who understands what I'm saying. |
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revcarol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Right on.. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
25. Thanks. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
2. Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high |
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Terwilliger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
3. somebody ELSE who isn't happy with the Kerry coronation |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. A lot of Republicans who aren't privileged or stand to inherit lots of $ |
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DoctorBombay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
4. Not an issue for me. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:48 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. You can control whom you elect president. |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:16 AM Response to Reply #10 |
31. I agree with you |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:21 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Thanks. That's the point I'm trying to make. America doesnt need a slight |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:32 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. To AP |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:34 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Not coincidentally, Edwards is the only candidate I've heard say that he |
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DoctorBombay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:38 AM Response to Reply #10 |
47. Would you have voted for Nixon over Kennedy in 1960? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:42 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Nixon was an imperialist intriguer who served big business, but wanted |
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La_Serpiente (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
6. No |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. "ensync" with my ideas is the notion that we have a democracy not royalty |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
9. When has that NOT been the case? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Call me when he changes his mind about progressive taxation, energy... |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
12. Not necessarily, no. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:57 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. FDR was called a class traitor. Blumenthal spends a couple pages in The |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
15. I'm more bothered by candidates who take the majority of their... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:58 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Edwards's donors have the lowest average income and give the greatest |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Do you have a source for that? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:15 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Fundrace.org -- here you go (avg. income of donors): |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:16 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. And here are the numbers for % of income: |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:29 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Interesting. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:34 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. They're based on data for Zip codes of donors. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:50 AM Response to Reply #43 |
51. There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:55 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Fact: Edwards donors live in zip codes where people are are $12-13K poorer |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
20. hmmmm |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:11 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. America - FUBAR, in about T minus 4 years if we don't get it right |
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BOHICA06 (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:23 AM Response to Reply #20 |
35. Nice list ... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:25 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Kerry seems to be a symbol of the idea that if you're rich and come from |
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BOHICA06 (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:36 AM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Teddy Roosevelt ... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:39 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. TR was a rich pro-business imperialist and a racist who happened |
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coloradodem2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
26. Sort of. |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
32. Not at all |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:23 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Doing what they have to do to keep America safe and make sure they can |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
37. No, I'm bothered by rethugs becoming president |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:27 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. And they're creating a world in which only rich Democrats can get elected. |
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cindyw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
42. Not really. I judge people by what they do with their lives and not by |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 01:37 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. I tend to agree with that. |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
54. I guess you'd have to look at the previous Democratic 'sons of privilege' |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 02:03 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Class traitors. No other options. Could you imagine the power of a JFK or |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 02:28 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Maybe John Edwards' positive message will win out |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 02:29 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Do you not think that we're not at a crossroads? |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 02:37 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. What point are you trying to make? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 02:38 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I was trying to figure out what your point was. |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 02:43 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. My point is that if Edwards wins, |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 02:46 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. with or without the eyes rolling? |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 03:41 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Yes. |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
59. time to have a union card holder like DK in office imho |
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Emillereid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 02:35 AM Response to Original message |
60. Face it folks -- as Emmanuel Todd says, we live in an oligarchy. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 02:43 AM Response to Original message |
64. Go for it |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 03:09 AM Response to Original message |
66. And to top it off, Horatio Alger was gay! |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 03:31 AM Response to Original message |
67. Tom DeLay... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Delay is a fascist. OK, lets take Hamilton as an example. He came |
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Piperay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 03:46 AM Response to Original message |
69. No not really |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:19 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. You think there's no link between biography, policy and experience? |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
74. Yes, I am bothered by more Skull & Bones aristocrats claiming the offices |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-08-04 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
75. It's the American way. |
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