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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 01:58 PM
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Breaking: Gail Parker (IG-VA) to pull out of Senate race and endorse ....
Gail Parker is the Independent Green candidate for Senate from Virginia. Currently polling at 2% and very underfunded, MSNBC just reported (2.55 PM EDT)that she is negotiating with both Webb and Allen to drop out of the race and endorse one of them.

No indication of what it is she wants in return for her support (and presumably her voters).
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 01:59 PM
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1. Negotiating? Does that not imply she stands for nothing? nt
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:00 PM
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2. Really... some Green she is...
What could POSSIBLY be "negotiable?"
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:17 PM
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22. She's actually mostly a conservative -- the only green part is
the rail system she was for.

I actually met her in a parking lot a few weeks ago. Gail "the rail" Parker is a little strange, I can tell you.
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bluedogyellowdog Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:05 PM
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37. She isn't a Green
The "Independent Green Party of Virginia" is sort of a catch-all party for goofballs and vanity campaigns. They aren't affiliated with the U.S. national Green Party. Just a vanity outfit as far as I can tell. I've tried researching whether they are some kind of astroturf outfit set up by stealth Repugs to spihon off Democratic votes but haven't found any smoking guns -- they just look like a vanity party. Nothing "green" about them either except for supporting high speed rail. They will endorse any independent and third party candidate whether left wing (Jim Hurysz in VA-8) or far right (they have endorsed Constitution Party candidates in 2005). They got in trouble with the state election board in 2005 trying to claim the Constitution Party and Green Party USA candidates as their own nominees.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:04 PM
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5. Even considering
endorsing Allen is a travesty. Allen doesn't even come close to being in alignment of any issues that are important to the Greens.

Maybe someone from Virginia knows more about this candidate and what is going on.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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SouthernBelle82 Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 07:35 PM
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34. Seems like it
How sad. She should just endorse the candidate that agrees the most with her views.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:00 PM
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3. What's to "negotiate"? Is she looking for a payoff? n/t
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:03 PM
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4. Typical green party bull shit. In my view we can thank them for
the last six years, because if Nader thought more of the country than himself things would be much different

If for nothing else just to try and bring back accountability and checks and balances she should endorse Webb

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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:06 PM
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8. ralph nader..
the DU's clenis.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:18 PM
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23. Not really a green. she's conservative except the light rail n/t
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SouthernBelle82 Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 07:36 PM
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35. I don't think Nader is a green
Just an independent.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:04 PM
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6. Why the hell would a Green Party candidate endorse a repuke like Allen
Then again, after what happened in Pennsylvania - I'm not shocked.
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magnolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:05 PM
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7. If I were a Green....
....supporting Gail Parker....and she dropped out and supported George Allen. I would question not only her and the Green Party, but my own stupidity for having supported her in the first place!!!
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:06 PM
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9. Right! 'Cause when I think of environmental protection
and Progressive ideals...the first thing I think about is George Allen. is :sarcasm: really necessary?

Webb gets the endorsement of Governor Wilder. Let Macaca get Gail Parker (whoever the hell she is).

Please tell me that Green voters are not that stupid.
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MattP Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:07 PM
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10. Negotiating for what?
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 02:09 PM by MattP
All the green party defenders on the board defend a green negotiating with a scumbag like Allen for ANYTHING!!!

Maybe I forgot, she probably has to ask if she has to pay back the money that she got to run in the first place.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:08 PM
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11. Isn't it to late - ballots have been printed, etc.
She is probably just looking for a little help paying her debts.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:09 PM
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12. I don't think the I.G party is equivalent to the Greens
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 02:16 PM by demnan
The I.G. is a conservative party, I read that here somewhere I'll look for a link.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gail_Parker

Here's a little tidbit:

2005 controversy
The party was the subject of controversy in July 2005 after they filed paperwork with the Virginia State Board of Elections claiming 15 candidates as their nominees. Only six of those candidates were in fact the candidates of the party; the remaining nine were independent candidates or candidates of other third parties. All nine disavowed the Independent Green designation for their ballot lines, and some of them claimed to have never heard of the party.

She probably wants a promise to provide more light rail - that is the main issue of the Indy Greens
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:17 PM
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18. If they're helping Republicans - they are equivalent
One and the same.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:11 PM
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13. Typical green.
:eyes:
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MattP Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:14 PM
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14. B.S. name then
If it's not a real Green party, somebody should start a Republican values party and have it run by liberals and see if it pulls any points away from the Republicans, it's the same thing that the independent Greens are doing by throwing the word Green in their name.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:14 PM
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15. What could Allen possibly stand for that she agrees with?
And what profound mental disorder could the Virginia Green Voters possess, as a group, to go along with an endorsement of Allen if that's what she chooses?

I don't care what anyone says, part of the blame for Bush being in office today can be laid at the feet of the Green Party and Ralph - Fucking Hypocritical Union Busting Asshole -Nader. Yeah yeah, the Supreme Court and voter supression and all that but these idiots who persist in believing that there's no difference between Dems and the GOP are really starting to piss me off!

How many dead Iraqis and dead American soldiers will it take, how bad do the working people in this country have to be screwed, how many more Katrinas before they let go of their precious "ideals" and do the right goddamn thing at the polls! If they care about peace and the environment so much, then they should not help a warmongering polluting racist freak like Allen get elected. Or stay the fuck home.

:grr:
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:14 PM
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16. This should tell us everything we need to know about greens.
negotiating with both sides? Never trust a green.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:16 PM
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17. My guess is whoever gives her the most $$$ toward her campaign debt
gets the endorsement. It's done all the time... usually within the same Party, but not here. It should be interesting.

TC
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MattP Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:18 PM
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19. B.S. Party
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 02:20 PM by MattP
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:47 PM
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20. 2% could actually swing this race....n/t
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:19 PM
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24. And therein lies the import of this newz
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terryg11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:08 PM
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21. ENdorse the one who agrees to back her main issue(s)
is most likely what that is. Dems should be happy unless their candidate isnt really for environment protection or whatever the IGs over there stand for. Willing to not play potential spoiler as long as the cause is advanced isn't bullshit, it's rather idealistic but party hacks wouldn't know wht that's about
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:25 PM
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25. Don't know a thing about her, really. But I just can't see a Green
Party candidate endorsing George Allen.

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TheVirginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:30 PM
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26. She's not a Green. She's from a completely different party.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 07:26 PM
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33. Ah. It will be interesting to see what happens next.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:45 PM
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27. News article:
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cnlst8 Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:42 PM
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31. Read this first: Independent Green is not the same as Green except
in the similar name.

Gail Parker is actually pretty conservative except her high speed rail service idea. Most people of the Independent Green Party are conservatives.

Here more info about there party.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Green_Party
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:44 PM
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32. Thanks for the link ......
.... that story explains a lot.

I can see both Webb and Allen being supportive of the rail stuff.

I can't see Allen going for a DoD accounting restructuring, but I CAN see Webb going for it ..... in some meaningful fashion or another.
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:00 PM
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28. If they can't add Webb's last name, how can they delete hers now?
Some of these idiots will still vote for her.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:18 PM
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29. If she backs Allen, may the fleas of a thousand camels
invade her bedroom and be resistant to any means of extermination.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:40 PM
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30. There are GREEN light-rail alternatives that Dems should support -- CYBERTRAN.COM

CyberTran is an Ultra-Light Rail technology that some key scientist behind
CA bond measures are pushing as a key component for future "Green City"
development.

Uses light-weight technology as for air-travel and advanced vehicle
automation technology to reduce the cost of rail systems to 1/10th the current
costs. Small vehicles move through a "cybernetic" network of encapsulated light rail with
no stops -- direct to destination. Stations are offline, vehicle re-enter the network
with computer managed precision. The network of vehicles navigate the network
like Internet message packets.

The system is so light-weight, it can be powered by advanced Solar panelling affixed
through the network.

http://www.cybertran.com/
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:00 PM
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36. hi H2S!! we miss you in C&B! have you been crazy busy or what?
:hi:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:25 PM
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38. Hey AZD~ ......
'Slammed' would be a good word. I get in about four posts a day ...... kinda like my version of a coffee break. Plus I been travelin' waaaaaay too much. :hi:
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