Religious Liberties threatened by Gay Marriage

[BOSSHOG]

Once again the lunatics dobson and perkins are trying to stir up the sad, disgusting, ignorant base to battle the truths in the new book, Tempting Faith which correctly describes how members of bush's gang of criminals used christians like sluts and whores and wanted them solely to vote for republican candidates. And they are still too ignorant to realize how they were bent over the political landscape and fucked for the past six years.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/13/AR2006101301583.html?nav=rss_politics

The "christian" lunacy in this country rolls on and the ignorant masses provide the fuel.

I truly believe dobson is responsible for Mickey Mouse's divorce; He's fucking Goofy.

[Vickers]

1. At least they are now admitting that the whole reason

for all the gay-bashing is to get out the whackos.

[no_hypocrisy]

2. As fundamentalists, fill in the blank:

Religious liberties are threatened by:

A) Gay marriage
B) Legalized abortion
C) Birth control
D) Secular humanism
E) Teaching of evolution in public schools
F) Prohibition of organized prayer in public schools
G) Decriminalization of gay sex in private homes
H) Separation of church and state
I) Prohibition of erecting crosses and the Ten Commandments on public property
J) Prohibition of tax support of religious schools

Gay marriage is the starting off point. Watch'em go down the list.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

10. Allowing people to vote Democrat.

But I think the new terrorist bill that went through recently will take care of that problem.

[TechBear_Seattle]

3. How about this solution

Change the statutes to remove from ministers the limited notary power to countersign a marriage license. Weddings will still be legal, but clergy will no longer have the authority to create legal marriage; all marriage licenses would require a notary public, judge or other representative of the state to be valid.

Same sex couples could be legally married and religious bodies would have no legal concerns for refusing to conduct a religious ceremony. Problem solved.

[blondeatlast]

5. I like it--and it allows those who would like to the option of a

spiritual recognition and/or ceremony.

Therefore, we can't allow it under the TDS* principle.

*Too Damn Simple, so we can't make political hay out of it, see?

[Kber]

6. Clergy already have the option of refusing to officiate at otherwise

legal ceremonies. Many rabbi's or priests, for example, won't perform interfaith weddings.

They can refuse to perform any ceremony with they feel violates their religious tenants. Nothing would change if gay marriage becomes a legal right.

[TechBear_Seattle]

7. Of coure

The whole AFA argument is cow droppings start to finish. I have yet to see a case where the Catholic Church was sued for refusing to marry a divorcee or non-Catholics; legal same-sex marriage would not change that. But since the AFA is raising an issue of church vs. state, I think the best, cleanest course of action is to remove the issue entirely. Stripping clergy of the CIVIL authority to officiate at legal marriage would serve that purpose.

In every single state, religious ceremony or the absense thereof is irrelevant to the legal status of a marriage. It is well past time that this was made clear.

[blondeatlast]

4. The biggest threat to religious liberty is the RRR* themselves.

My gay atheist friend is more respectful of my Christian spirituality than James Fallertson ever was or will be.

*Radical Religious Right

[Freedom_from_Chains]

8. I think being sluts and whores for the Republicans is a major

part of the new moral values pyridine in that it's for the glory of G-d.

[Efilroft Sul]

9. For another take on Dobson and this issue by his flock, see this post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2886626