DEAN supporters and well-wishers only

[EarlG]

This is the official thread for Dean supporters and well-wishers to discuss his performance in today's primaries, free of disruption.

If you are not a Dean supporter or a well-wisher, please do not post in this thread. The purpose of this thread is for disruption-free discussion among Dean supporters. Any negative posts by opponents will be deleted by the moderators. We will open up separate threads where supporters of the other candidates can interact without disruption from opponents.

[Padraig18]

1. Lets cross our fingers, guys!

:)

[NashVegas]

4. Aye

I'll be chain smoking.

[pezcore64]

6. lol

Ill be chain smoking too! only i dont mean cigarettes!

lol!!!


GO HOWARD!!

DEAN IN 04 BABY!!!

YEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!

[Padraig18]

7. I just rolled my first one!

I'm a chain smoker of cigarettes, too. :evilgrin:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. Thank you for this thread!

I really hope Dean does well in the caucuses. He is the one who has moved ahead the whole discussion of the Shrub administration, and should be commended for this. I hope there are many voters who realize that this man has the experience and pragmatism it will take to get our country out of the mess it is in.

[Jerseycoa]

3. Rooting for you!

:bounce:

[maddezmom]

5. Good Luck to Dean and his supporters

looks like it's going to be a close one. :)

[OKNancy]

8. I wrote GO DEAN in the Clark thread

so I thought, " How selfish" I'm spreading the cheer...GO DEAN!!

[redsoxliberal]

9. I don't like the results coming out now

n/t

[xultar]

16. The early ones are always the smaller more conservative...don't worry

just wait. Larger ones are always the best for candidates like Dean and Clark.

[SadEagle]

13. Proper response: Go Clark!

Good luck in VT, TN! (And Michigan, Maine, Washington, too, although I don't think they're your candidates main focus)

[NashVegas]

10. They Found the Box with the Dean Votes - Yay!

The last results were just bizarre!

President - - 1,397 of 6,552 precincts reporting
Name Party Votes Pct Delegates
John Kerry Dem 1,601 43.5% 0
Howard Dean Dem 1,018 27.7% 0
Dennis Kucinich Dem 533 14.5% 0
John Edwards Dem 179 4.9%

[MGKrebs]

18. Only 600 votes difference.

I picked a bad time to try to quit smolking.

edit: OK, that's supposed to be "smoking". Although, being a Braves fans, I wonder if, when John Smoltz is in the zone, it could be considered "smolking".

[redsoxliberal]

20. Great movie btw

:)



C'mon Howie, let's get it goin!

[WiseMen]

11. All the best guys. Could win in Wash.Hope you get more delegates this time

[Democrats unite]

12. Go Dean!

Let's see you take Washington!

[spooky3]

14. Good luck to Dean and all his supporters!

[xultar]

15. Good Luck to Dean and all of his supporters, I have a good feeling

about today for you!

[Darth_Kitten]

17. Go DEAN!!!!!!!!!

:bounce: :party: :nuke: :toast: :D :bounce: :party: :toast: :D :nuke:

[Darth_Kitten]

19. GO DEAN GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:bounce: :party: :nuke: :toast: :D :bounce: :party: :toast: :D :nuke:

[redsoxliberal]

21. I got my hopes up

I hope Seattle is coming up, and has not already been submitted.

[newyawker99]

22. Good luck Dean Supporters!!

:-)

[maryallen]

23. Hang in there, Howard!

Keep on fighting!

[OutlawCorporatePolls]

27. fox is spinning big time.

they have reported the following on their screen.. lol.


--at 21 percent--

4:43 pm est w/ 21 percent

kerry 52%

4:50 PM EST w/ 21 percent

kerry 44%

4:59 PM EST w/ 21 percent

kerry 52%

---at 32 percent in---


5:10 PM EST w/ 32 percent

kerry 44%

5:12 PM EST w/ 32 percent

kerry 50%


and i have screen captures to prove it. is michigan not closed and they are trying to spin it for michigan. what numbers are they looking at?

they also reported

with 32% precincts in

kerry - 50%
dean - 29%
kucinich - 7%
edwards - 6%

where are these numbers coming from?

so far, i have not seen kerry over 50% on any returns... wtf.


here are the 32% returns..

FEBRUARY 7, 17:41 ET

President
President - - 2,125 of 6,552 precincts reporting
Name Party Votes Pct Delegates
John Kerry Dem 1,783 44.1% 0
Howard Dean Dem 1,119 27.7% 0
Dennis Kucinich Dem 551 13.6% 0
Uncommitted Dem 202 5.0% 0
John Edwards Dem 198 4.9% 0
Wesley Clark Dem 185 4.6% 0
Al Sharpton Dem 2 0.0% 0
Other Dem 0 0.0% 0

[joshcryer]

24. Good luck everyone! I believe the tides are turning!

Dean just gained a point on Kerry in on CNN reporting page.

[redsoxliberal]

26. LOL

It's gotta get better than that!

[joshcryer]

34. Already has. Kerry 48% Dean 32% (CNN)

Think Dean is going to get something out of this... might not win it, but it's going to be his best showing this season.

[politick]

25. Come on Howie!

Make us proud!

[Toucano]

28. Dean kicking it in WA!

I am so happy for him and his supporters.

He's at 28& now.

[redsoxliberal]

30. Thanks for the support

but we want to win it!

[bain_sidhe]

29. GO DEAN!

Washington looks really good for you guys!!!!

Good luck! No tellin' how Michigan's going to go - lotta early voting got done, before the Kerry bandwagon started rolling - so good luck there too. I guess they won't be releasing the results till 8 PM, and I don't know if that's AFTER the decision to keep the Detroit polls open two extra hours... anyway, pins and needles here for Dean and my guy too.

[mdmc]

32. GO Howard!

Hope...hope...hope...
I also hope Kucinich, Clark, and Edwards all do well. Gosh, I hope all do well!

[redsoxliberal]

31. I am perplexed

from all the reports we were getting, Dean was winning big in the big cities (seattle). They better be counting the rural votes first, or I will be very disappointed.

[OutlawCorporatePolls]

33. watch the enemy. turn on fox.. this is weird.

for some reason they are tring to push 50% or over thru the major news cycles at 5 pm. it is now 5 pm CST and they are still sticking with the 50% kerry number. this is bs.

what votes are they counting?

[SadEagle]

36. A Dkos poster stated NPR said Seattle wasn't in yet.

So let's hope.

[milkyway]

35. Prediction: Dean will win Washington. The percentages being reported

now are number of precincts, not of number of voters. Expected about 100,000 voter turnout, only about 4,000 total votes reported. So these 32% of precincts must be small rural ones. Various anectdotal reports throughout the day have shown Seattle is going big-time for Dean, almost 2-1 over Kerry. This is going to end up very close--and Dean did not run a single ad! The only media advertising for Dean was provided by truthandhope.org, which a couple of days ago hastily raised cash on the Dean blog, produced some good radio ads, and got them on the air. Those that thought the people-powered Howard Dean campaign would just roll over are in for a big surprise.

[redsoxliberal]

37. That is interesting...

"Expected about 100,000 voter turnout, only about 4,000 total votes reported. So these 32% of precincts must be small rural ones."



this is making me bounce again!
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[Leilani]

43. Have my fingers crossed for you guys!

Go Dean!!

[Anwen]

38. Gawd I hope you are right milkyway!!!

What you said makes sense....COME ON DEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[joshcryer]

39. I'm tending to agree with you here.

This seems like a major upset for Dean.

[redsoxliberal]

40. If these numbers hold up

then, I think, Dean really is done.
;(


Come back Howard!

[joshcryer]

44. These numbers are indicitive of smaller precincts.

Given that the smaller ones get done first, and that the larger ones get done last, and that as the larger ones are finishing Dean's points are jumping 1 or 2, I think that this is the trend.

I agree with milkyway here.

[Leilani]

41. Go Dean!!

Win Wa. today

Maybe Clark can win Tues.

[redsoxliberal]

42. Thank you for all the support

from Clark camp.

Clark is one of the three I would be thrilled with.

Dean
Kucinich
Clark

[OutlawCorporatePolls]

45. new fox numbers

with 55% in..

kerry 48
dean 30


"you can bet dean is going to try to say that this is a strong showing" - mort kondrake, fox news.

lol.

[OutlawCorporatePolls]

46. Dean/Edwards Charge Fraud In Michigan... (drudge breaking)

no story at link

http://www.drudgereport.com/

[ScreamingMeemie]

47. Here is the story....

and it is disgusting that this has happened, not to mention odd.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=287882

[redsoxliberal]

48. CNN declares Kerry winner

damn.


Where are those Seattle votes now???

[joshcryer]

49. Fun while it lasted.

Unless CNN's projections are seriously messed up.

[Anwen]

50. :-(

I hope they are wrong. I really hate how they declare a winner without counting ALL the votes.

[joshcryer]

51. Well, the polls are closed, so projections aren't that bad.

But it would suck if they didn't do the math right and were wrong. Then again, it would be nice to stick it to 'em.

[redsoxliberal]

52. Only 8,000 votes counted or so

and record turnouts?


COME ON!

[progressivebydesign]

54. I'm trying not to be paranoid!!

BUT.. This is so maddening! I want ALL the precincts counted. Why do we let republican media call our races?? What if the metro areas have not been counted? They are the ones that have been calling into the radio stations here in Washington telling us that Dean won all the precincts in their caucus. This smells..

[joshcryer]

56. These are delegate counts. But I just noticed that only 30%...

...have been counted. Check out this link: http://www.nwcn.com/sharedcontent/northwest/specialreport/stories/NW_020704WABcaucus_resultsEL.87293dbf.html

The majority of the delegates are still out there! Seattle must not be in yet. The projections could be off.

[progressivebydesign]

55. Perhaps they are the 50% Still UNCOUNTED!

Sheesh. Don't ya just love it when a network run by Roger Ailes declares Kerry the winner after only half of the votes are counted? I really hate politics right now.

[mvd]

53. Even if he doesn't win states today..

Voters are sending a message to the media and his detractors in the establishment. Good luck to Dean!

[Straight Shooter]

57. I'm still Howard-Powered over here in Oregon! Rock on, Seattle!!

Nothing will deter me from supporting Dean!

[redsoxliberal]

58. This is extremely disappointing n/t

[NashVegas]

61. 50% of the Delegates Still Uncounted

Just check back later.

[bobbyboucher]

65. For some reason, I

question your sincerity. I don't think it is disappointing at all. I'd call it a turnaround.

[Guaranteed]

101. Two second place finishes...and STRONG seconds

This isn't disappointing...this is good.

[tishaLA]

59. Good Luck, Dean Supporters

...from another friendly Clark supporter.

[bigwillq]

60. Keeping the faith

In Dean and all of us supporters. The grassroots movement is alive and well (a shout out to all the Clark supporters as well). Washington is not over yet. Seattle is still to come.

GO DEAN!!!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

62. 29,961 possible.

13,000 in.

No Seattle.

[joshcryer]

63. We're still in this folks, especially if the Seattle/Dean rumors...

...are true.

[Tatiana]

64. Good luck Dean supporters!

I'm hoping Dean can pull out Washington. He will do extremely well in the Seattle area!

:grouphug: good vibes...

[Skip Intro]

66. I'm confused -

CNN is listing vote totals at 76% reporting, yet the total of votes add up to about 11,000. I thought I read earlier today that turnout in WA could be as high as 100,000.

How can anybody be calling the race if something like less than 25% of the vote has been counted?

What am I missing?

[joshcryer]

68. Hey, Seattle has caucuses not primaries, so it's delegate counts.

::waves:: :)

[Comadreja]

67. Caucus Chaos

Dean supporters were the only ones putting up signs and wearing teeshirts at the extremely crowded and chaotic Kittitas County Caucus (one county over from Yakima). There was no way to try to persuade the undecided (much too crowded) whom, in my precinct, even ended with a delegate. My precinct: 4 Kerry, 2 Dean, 1 Undecided. This seems to pretty much reflect the rest of the small eastern caucuses. We are proud of our results, but expected better from the west side of the Cascades.



NO DEFICITS WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!

[Anwen]

69. Jeez, what's taking so long?

When are the rest of the numbers supposed to roll in?

[redsoxliberal]

70. CNN just mentioned

that there were no exit polls today.


My hope for a Seattle comeback has surged.

[Anwen]

72. Great!!!

Come on, Seattle!!!! :D

[WilliamPitt]

74. A lot of Seattle has already been counted

according to a Seattle PI reporter I just talked to.

[redsoxliberal]

76. *AHEM*

I don't think you are a Dean supporter or well wisher.







And, I REALLY didn't want to hear that.

[WilliamPitt]

78. I'm sorry

I didn't mean to be a dick. Data is data, and I had an inside track on this because of a phone call I got. I apologize.

[redsoxliberal]

79. No prob

just not something I wanted to hear :(

[SadEagle]

80. Oh well, here goes that hope.

Any idea on what precincts are still outstanding, and what's taking them so long?

Thanks.

[WilliamPitt]

82. I don't know

If I hear, I will post it. Again, I'm sorry for technically violating the well-wishing rule.

[joshcryer]

86. With 80% precincts reporting, 40% of delegates go uncounted.

Which obviously means that some high population areas are not accounted for here. Outside of Seattle/Tacoma, I cannot think of which areas would have such population densities.

[WillyT]

71. Michigan Official Just Announced Dean As A Second Place Finish...

with over 17% of the vote! (On CNN)

Not what we've been seeing on the tube so far, eh???

:hi::grouphug::hi:

[redsoxliberal]

73. That is a very strong finish

but I am still very disappointed with Washington.






COME BACK HOWIE!

[WillyT]

75. If True, He Gets Delegates Right ??? And Can At Least Claim Another...

Second place finish.

:shrug:

[SadEagle]

77. 17.4% with 519 of 590 precincts.

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2004/primaries/by_state/MI_Page.html?SITE=YAHOOELN&SECTION=POLITICS#TOP

Note that Edwards may or may not get delegate depending on how the CD boundaries and the final districts go, which may affect just how many delegates everyone gets. No delegate projection by AP yet.

(And WTH is going on w/the counting in WA?)

[incapsulated]

81. Two Second Place Finishes

Good Job! Hope you get some delegates. Good luck! :hi:

[adamrsilva]

83. Dean no. 2 in both MI and WA, above 15% in both.

He's got delegates...

[politick]

84. what does it mean

do you think? hoe much will he be able to affect things at the convention? I'm curious.

[NoPasaran]

87. Well, if we really are coming back

Then we start winning states, pass Kerry's delegate count, nominate Dean and elect him President in November. YEEEEAAARRRGGGH!

[ozone_man]

92. That's right, momentum change takes a few weeks.

Kerry has peaked and maybe buyer's remorse will start to set in as folks get a closer look at what they are buying. Hopefully, by Wisconsin, we can gain the momentum back.

[DebJ]

85. I am psyched and happy happy happy lets keep it going. Revolutions

take time.

[joshcryer]

88. With strong finishes in WA and WI, Dean says his campaign...

...is "the real alternative to John Kerry."

[redsoxliberal]

89. I am very disappointed

from Washingtons performance.


But heartened in Michigan.

[joshcryer]

90. I'm not, I think Dean did really well.

Considering the several state losses only a few days ago, he's doing absolutely fantastic.

[redsoxliberal]

91. I really thought with the Seattle results we were gonna win

n/t

[wabeewoman]

93. Some observations

My first caucus ever in Washington. Pierce County. It was so crowded. The democratic chairman (paul berndt) said on KOMO radio that it might be as high at 200,000 which would be 5x the normal turnout!! My precinct had 6 Dean and 1 Kerry. The Kerry person was a Dean at heart but had been convinced by our media that Kerry couldn't win. Also had a republican for Dean who had voted republican since Eisenhower. Interesting process. My husband attended a different precinct and found much the same. Kerry supporters had been Dean but had been convinced Dean was unelectable. EVERYONE was very negative about bush. All 7 in mine were lst time caucus goers. The Dean people were totally behind his positions while the Kerry folks didn't agree on his war vote or his support of the patriot act or NAFTA but believed he could beat bush and that the the main reason they supported him. IF Dean could turn that one thing around, he could still win this. Electability....

[redsoxliberal]

94. is that in seattle? Do you know if it's been counted yet? n/t

[wabeewoman]

96. No, Tacoma

Yes, probably has been. To tell the truth, I was surprised Dean didn't do better. Seemed like we had such good turnout but then, so did Kerry.

[SadEagle]

95. AP Projects 22 delegates for the good Doc in MI.

Not too bad; might change as night progress, though, and 14 pledged delegates still not allocated.

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2004/primaries/by_state/MI_Page.html?SITE=YAHOOELN&SECTION=POLITICS#TOP

[bigwillq]

97. Not too shabby. Two second place finishes

Dean picked up some delegates and I think will close it a bit in Washington. I'm surprised by his strong (if you could call it that) showing in Michigan. I'm pleased. This has been my most exciting night of primaries so far. I actually am not sick to my stomach like I've been all the other nights. Hopefully it's a sign of good things to come. Props to all Dean supporters. Keep the faith alive.

[Tinoire]

98. I love you guys

What spirit!

[SadEagle]

99. MI Final: 25 delegates for Dean!

Wu-hu!

[redsoxliberal]

100. 54 delegates today

not bad.

[liberalmike27]

102. Overall, with Super-Delegates, Dean in Solid Second

Kerry at 411, with Dean at 175, Edwards at 116, Clark at 82 and Sharpton at 12. It takes 2,162 to win the nomination.

Yes, clearly the media has constantly been bashing Dean, and now lifting Kerry up. Kerry won't likely hold us as his special interest like Dean will. Interesting, the delegates being as they are, that they were talking about Dean withdrawing on CNN, instead of one of the others with less. More bias, all the time, on the corporate-mouthpiece media-outlets.

Keep going to Dean's site, writing the letters to Wisconsin, and doing what you can. Mention the media's unfairness, the fact that no one can know who is electable, and that we feel Dean is far better than Kerry, who has a tremendous record to take apart in the Senate, as well as a contradictory Vietnam experience, where he wants to be a hero, and a protester of the war at the same time.

I was reading McGovern article in the paper today, and he talked about how he'd been a pilot in the war, but Nixon, who'd done nothing was portrayed in a better light than he, who'd served his country. Clearly, the only chance we have against Bush is Dean, who has all of us committed Deaniacs to organize around him.

One final comment, you can see Kerry doesn't provoke much enthusiasm, just by the number of posts in his thread. it's because most of those people aren't proud of themselves, and they don't get the good feeling that we do, by voting our convictions, our ideology. They come home, voting against what they believe in, and don't much care to talk about it, pour themselves a stiff drink, and sit back trying to wash the nasty taste out of their collective, brainwashed mouths, sipping cheap bourbon whiskey. Okay, a little dramatic, but you get my point.

Vote for who you want to, not who the media tells you to. I rather think Dean did well, and I'm feeling a change in momentum. Be part of the wave, don't quit, go right now and whip out your ten letters. I'm doing thirty every three days, my mom's computer, a friend from Ohio who doesn't have time, and my own. Postage is killing me, but it's worth it.

[Guaranteed]

103. It's excellent. We're definitely not "out of the race."

That's a strong showing.

[slinkerwink]

104. go Dean!!!

[Robb]

105. Robbstrodamus strikes again!

Strong showing today! Now, if Dean wins in Wisconsin, I'll get my official Junior Miss Cleo Crystal Ball. :D

Go Dean!! :bounce: