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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:22 PM
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Washington Caucuses are over. Where are the results?
Anyone got any?
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:23 PM
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1. That quick?
Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 02:27 PM by knight_of_the_star
I can imagine it would be on the Secy of State's website.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:24 PM
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3. They started at 10 and ended at 11 am
Don't know why they had it so early, but they did.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:41 PM
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9. That is early
Most of the other states usually close their polls at 8:00 pm local time.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:24 PM
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2. http://www.nwcn.com
http://www.nwcn.com are apparently reporting the results
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baby_bear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:29 PM
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4. They are not over yet but the turnout is big
They didn't have to end at 11. It was expected that at least some would go to noon. All depends on what happens with the less than 15 per centers who have the option of moving over to another candidate.

Here in Seattle, the caucuses are still going strong in some precincts.

Wonderful turnout! Remarkable!

s_m
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:31 PM
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5. Cool!
The dems are motivated. Bush is toast.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 03:35 PM
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16. everytime I hear "huge" turnout, I smile
because I know the Dems are energized to take back the WH! Go Dems!
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:39 PM
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7. An article at this link says that the results will be in at
4:00 Pacific.
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:37 PM
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6. Looks like they're still counting
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:40 PM
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8. thanks for the link, Jerseycoa
:pals:
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Casablanca Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 03:08 PM
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10. Easily twice as many people in this caucus than in the 2000 caucus.
Big, and very noisy, rural turnout here north of Seattle. Many more uncommitteds.

To the Dean supporters - no Dean people switched in my precinct. Holding strong ...
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Mass_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 03:20 PM
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11. YAY!!!
I am so exuberant right now. I swear, if we can just show we can win, just once, it'll give us a huge bounce going into Wisconsin. Thank you. Come bounce with me :bounce: :bounce:
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 03:33 PM
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13. Sure!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Good exercise ;)
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Casablanca Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 03:35 PM
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15. Big bounce coming at ya! And Bush and the corp media ...
Have a big slam coming at them from the PNW!

Way to go Seattle!
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 03:36 PM
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17. I want to bounce too!
I am seriously thrilled right now!!!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Casablanca Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 03:37 PM
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18. A proper bounce ...
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 03:29 PM
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12. 56 in my precinct
compared with FOUR in 2000. Needless to say it was chaotic as hell.
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corporatistRule Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 03:35 PM
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14. 43rd District #2049
In 2000 we had 12 people... today we had 58!!

Results:


Dean 3 delegates

Kucinich 1 delegate

Kerry 1 delegate
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FrankBooth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 03:37 PM
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19. I just got back
My precint, up on Queen Anne in Seattle, was jammed packed. The organizers said the turnout was even higher than they expected, and they were expecting big turnout.

I expected it to be Dean country, but Kerry was the big winner in my precint. Edwards got the only other delegate.
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Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 03:46 PM
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20. Just got back from Lake Stevens High
Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 03:47 PM by Jax
44th Congressional District. My precint had 10 people at our table. 3 delegates for Dean and one for Kucinich. Total turnout at the high school was probably around 300 or so, I am not good at figuring that out. Met GREAT Dems out there. At my table, Kerry and Edwards were not even on the radar screen. 4 undecideds when we started became three for Dean and 1 for Kucinich. It was really really great to participate. I live in Marysville.

Jax
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dylanmcd Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 05:47 PM
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21. A Caucus-Race and a Long Tale
`Mine is a long and a sad tale!' said the Mouse, turning to Alice, and sighing.

I'm a 20 year old Clark support, new to Washington (Capitol Hill), and my experience at the caucus was unfortunately very discouraging.
At a local Clark meetup on February 2nd, I had been told by fellow supporters "Just go, it doesn't matter if you are new, unregistered, you can do everything there. To help even more, be prepared to speak!" With this in mind, I spent hours researching and defining my positions on why Clark is the best canidate. With considerable effort, I did finally manage to find where my caucus was being held.

`What is a Caucus-race?' said Alice;
`Why,' said the Dodo, `the best way to explain it is to do it.'


The small reserved room at the SAAM (Seattle Asian-Art Museum) was absolutely packed. My backpack, in which I carried my old laptop, carefully set up to track the delegates votes and to provide access to all of Clark's stances on the issues, did not go over very well (or more specifically, did not go through very well). My appearance was greeted with scowls. In a sea of older democrats, with the rare person my age (looking as confused as I was), I made my way to ask one of the few caucus managers where I could find what precinct I was in. I was informed that 2010 had one photocopied map, but it wasn't complete.

They were indeed a queer-looking party that assembled on the bank--the birds with draggled feathers, the animals with their fur clinging close to them, and all dripping wet, cross, and uncomfortable.

I managed to make my way to their table and waited as others consulted it. When I finally got my chance, I found the map cut off a couple blocks before my street. Again I sought out the caucus manager, who was being accosted at the same time by two other young people with the same problem. She told us their was a number we could probably call, but that she had leant out her cell phone to someone else with the same problem. Getting desperate at this point, I decided to try my luck with the only person who had internet access in the building, the museum receptionist. She wouldn't let me use the computer, but tried to help my find the census precinct locator. She spent 10 minutes trying to find it, with me trying in vain to describe where I thought I saw the link. Finally, we gave up. I went back downstairs and asked the caucus manager if there was really no way I could find my precinct. She said that they did not have enough funding to provide maps of all the precinct locations "because they are so detailed". She then turned to inform an incoming woman that she could not participate, as it was past 10:30. At this point, I decided it was about time to start my trek back home.

Even though I don't feel like the extra time I spent preparing was completely wasted, I am very dissapointed I was unable to support my canidate, who really needs all the support he can get right now. It also leaves me very discouraged with the process. Is this the way representative democracy should be? The ones who know how to play the game get the vote?

I don't like criticizing volunteer organizations, so I'll only say that for those who are new to the "caucus-race", the already arduous task of sifting through the vast amount of media and information that making an informed decision about a canidate requires is overwhelming enough. If precincts are too complicated and expensive for the parties to compile, how can we expect those who are not politcally savvy to participate? A simple printout of all the precinct neighborhoods posted on the wall would of sufficed for me, and for at least a few others at this particular caucus.

However, when they had been running half an hour or so, and were quite dry again, the Dodo suddenly called out `The race is over!' and they all crowded round it, panting, and asking, `But who has won?' This question the Dodo could not answer without a great deal of thought, and it sat for a long time with one finger pressed upon its forehead (the position in which you usually see Shakespeare, in the pictures of him), while the rest waited in silence. At last the Dodo said, `Everybody has won, and all must have prizes.'

On a brighter note, it gives me great hope to see so many democrats participating (I was told it was 3 times more than expected).I just wish I could of been one of them ;)
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Casablanca Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 06:10 PM
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22. Your story is a good reason for WA state to abandon the caucus system.
It's too unorganized of a process. Straight voting is messy too, but pressuring people to pressure others within the space of an hour is just too "fraught with the possibility of mishap" and just plain peer pressure. The latter is never something you want in a truly democratic process.

Having said that, it is a great experience to see democracy in action before your very eyes during a caucus, and not just on a T.V. screen ticker.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 06:27 PM
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23. The lesson to take away from all that is
that if they don't have a good map, they can't prove you're not in whatever precinct you want to declare that you're in. So you look at the defective map, check the pattern of how the numbers go, and pick the logical number for where you live. If they say No that's not right you say Sorry, you'll have to prove that to me.
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dylanmcd Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 07:03 PM
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24. Hehe...
Well, the thought did cross my mind! But I heard in passing that if you vote in the wrong precinct, your vote will be discounted when they tally them up. This would of been a last resort, and by the time I had decided there was no hope in finding my precinct for certain, the time to sign up had passed.

What I can do though is compile a short description with my suggestions on what could of been done to improve the caucus from the perspective of a newcomer, and submit it to the King County Democrat organization. The crowding was a real problem in my opinion (is this the atmosphere we want to show people who would like to get involved?), and like Casablanca said, I think it may be a good idea to start looking for a better option than the caucus system.
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babzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 07:15 PM
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25. you probably should have found out your precinct number
before your caucus day. All you had to do was visit wa-democrats.org on your laptop to be fully prepared.

Also both of the Seattle newspapers published phone numbers you could call to determine your precinct location.
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