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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:05 PM
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David Gregory: Republicans are on the counterattack. WTF?!
It's not a "counterattack" when R's are now going after Democrats about the Foley issue. It's a DEFLECTION.

Just saw him on MSNBC where he said R's are counterattacking. That already presumes that Dems are behind the timing of all this.

Does anyone have his email address? I can't find it at the MSNBC site.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:07 PM
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1. With what? More blame? nt
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:08 PM
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2. Hmmm... let me get this straight...
Dems are howling about pedophilia on Capitol Hill... they are demanding accountability... they are speaking out against this child abuse.

How does one counter that? Condone pedophilia? Demand that everyone turn away from the atrocity of child abuse?

I don't get it. Someone please explain. I must be dim.


:eyes:
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:10 PM
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"IF YOU'RE NOT WITH THE PEDOPHILES, YOU'RE AGAINST AMERICA!!!" n/t
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:13 PM
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10. Remember this one thing.. IT WAS CLINTON"S FAULT!!1!!
Thats all they do.

:grr:
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LoKnLoD Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:09 PM
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3. I wouldn't get on Gregory's case
because of a poor choice of words. More often than not he is the only one asking his highness the hard questions in the press conferences.
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:12 PM
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7. I agree with what LoKnLoD just said.
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 01:14 PM by Janice325
Most of the time, Gregory is the lone voice out there in the Press Corps. Perhaps someone could email David just to point out his poor choice of words.
Edited to point out that I think eleny's use of the word DEFLECTION is spot on. I've seen the Repukes try to deflect blame about Foley for the last couple of days.:puke:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:16 PM
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12. I'm sendng an email to the Nightly News program
They list him as one of their reporters.
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:32 PM
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19. Great idea.
I think David's a big enough boy to know when he's made a booboo in using a very poor choice of words.
Thanks! :thumbsup:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:40 PM
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22. See anniebelle's response here - reply #18
Looks like it's a talking point for today. Others have already said it. :nuke:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:16 PM
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11. He's in the "word" business
And I expect him to use the right words in this most important issue. So, I'm staying on his case. I found an email address for the Nightly News where he's listed as one of their journalists.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:51 PM
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27. use your energy to blast lou dobss, blitzer, carlson, and the
list goes on.

gregory is a good guy.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:54 PM
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29. See my earlier reply to you
I'll use my energy where I wish and suggest you do the same. Don't lecture me.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 05:40 PM
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40. you started the thread
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 07:32 PM
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45. I meant my posting #28 in reply to you
Looks like, per anniebelle, that other reporters were saying the same thing today. So he was probably repeating a talking point. It's sad when good guys go sour.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 03:18 AM
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47. good point.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:50 PM
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26. Gregory appears to be a good guy
probably just chose the wrong words.

write about other so called reporters instead.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:53 PM
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28. "Appears"
That's right - he only appears to be a good guy but he isn't. See anniebelle's reply #18 in this thread. Others have repeated that same talking point today, too. As I said in another posting here, he's a repeater, not a reporter.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:10 PM
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4. CounterAttack = LYING THEIR ASSES OFF !
n/t
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:10 PM
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5. WRONG choice of words, David. nt
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:11 PM
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6. Love that party of responsibility
I guess they are opposed to holding pedophiles accountable for their actions.

I guess they planned to out foley right after the election. Cant you just swim in their morality and integrity.
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Marlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:12 PM
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8. I think David Gregory has gone over to the dark side
His interview on Bill Mahar show a couple of weeks ago was unbelievable.
He was saying how intelligent Bush really is and defending him to high heaven.
Even Mahar seemed stunned. Basically, most of the news people are no better then
pundits. They get their talking points from Rove and they talk.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:18 PM
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13. I hadn't heard about that Maher interview
Now I feel more fired up about emailing his ass.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 09:54 PM
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46. I saw it, too. Jaw dropping arrogance. it's worse than has been said
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 09:56 PM by Gabi Hayes
here so far.

to wit: he DEFENDED the M$M's performance in the run up to the invasion! he kept saying that they DID ask the tough questions....stuff like that

I had to hit myself hard in the eyes to make sure I wasn't having some sort of fever dream

he never pushes past a certain point. he knows his place very well.... the TENS places in his seven figure salary

the only WH press corpser that has any guts would appear to be Helen Thomas...least that gets any pub

is that corporate crime guy a regular WH press corpser? can't think of his name
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:12 PM
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9. If there are Democrats ...
who knew about this years ago like the Repuke leadership, then they should be held accountable as well.
This seems silly since the reason for the coverup is to retain party control.

I will always hold our side to higher standard than the opposition. It is called taking the high road.

Cheers
Drifter
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:19 PM
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14. Well said! I agree
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:22 PM
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15. My email to David Gregory
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 01:22 PM by eleny
Mailed to him at the Nightly News program nightly@nbc.com <nightly@nbc.com>

Subject: To David Gregory

Mr. Gregory,

I just watched you reporting to Rita Cosby on MSNBC regarding the Foley issue.

You asserted that the Republicans are now "counterattacking" because they believe that the Democrats are behind the timing of the revelations. The Republicans aren't "counterattacking" - they're deflecting. The word "counterattack" presumes that the Dems are behind the timing.

Words matter and you're in the word business. Shame on you for reporting using language that takes the heat off Republicans. It seems to me that the viability of the Republican Party is more important than what happened to the youngsters.

I've lost respect for you.

My Name
My State
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 02:01 PM
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31. Good email.
By the way, I wasn't intending to try to defend David or be snarky with anyone in my posts about him. In the past, anytime I've seen him he's been quite good, IMO.
Dear God, eleny, you saw him with Rita Crosby???? Yuck, icky poo, epithet after epithet!! :puke: :banghead::thumbsdown::argh:
I was so glad when MSNBC (Dan Abrams) pulled her show. I had fortunately forgotten about that MOST ANNOYING woman until I heard her "reporting" on the Amish murders. I had to change the channel before I started vomiting due to being horrified and sickened by her "being back" and "reporting."
Thanks to all you DU'ers updates on David. I wish I could blame David's stupidity on being around Rita, but me, I'm a Democrat and take responsibility for my own actions. When I make a mistake, I admit it. (like saying nice stuff about David when I haven't watched the news today. Janice goes "duh!! I was wrong." :) )
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 02:09 PM
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32. You gave me a chuckle - Thanks!
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allisonthegreat Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:23 PM
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16. Go to NBC news for email addy! &
The GOP are desperate...They will stop at nothing to bring up false time lines and lies to make the dem's look bad.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:25 PM
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17. Thanks! I'll go see if i can find one for him directly
If I can't find one, I'll send him a letter. I'm so hot under the collar over this.
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anniebelle Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:32 PM
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18. I heard a couple talkin' heads say that today
:mad: There is no limit to the depths these 'folks' will sink. It really is incredible the lies they sling out and how many stick. If repeated a dozen or so times to these repressive regressives, it's a permanent file in that little box on top of their head. I'm so glad to see Melanie Sloan (from CREW) coming out immediately and repudiating the lies the FBI is spitting out about their part in this sordid child sex ring.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:38 PM
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21. So it's a talking point for today
I heard him say it first since I turned the tv on very late morning. Thanks!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:36 PM
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20. You know what?
There is something very strange about Gregory. I can't put my finger on it. He also claimed that the Dems "knew about Foley" and held on to info until the election. What a crock of shit. I KNOW that he knows better than that. He goes back and forth all of the time. I don't trust him. I just don't.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:46 PM
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24. Gregory is just a "repeater" not a "reporter"
From what anniebelle says here in the thread others have also reported the same as Gregory. Looks like "counterattack" is a talking point they all received.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 02:23 PM
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34. Bingo. Shoot these erroneous talking point memes in the head now.
They have a way of taking deep root and and self-perpetuating like dandelions. Next time you blink, they've over-run the whole terrain.

If Gregory is one half as earnest as his defenders believe, he will take it like a big boy.
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:40 PM
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23. ABC said their original source was a
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 01:42 PM by Justyce
"long-time Republican", right? So a republican turned in another republican & a predominantly republican network reported it.... yeah, I can see how the dems are behind all of this.... GEEZ.

And it's all beside the point anyway -- he's a pedophile. Period.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:50 PM
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25. And Melanie Sloan of CREW is laying it on the line today, too
Sloan was interviewed by CNN. She asserted that the emails she sent to the FBI were not redacted. And then she gave CNN the name of the FBI agent to whom she sent the emails. CNN has not revealed the identity of the FBI agent. But CNN said they tried to contact the agent but that "she" hasn't replied to CNN yet.

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:56 PM
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30. Fire up the emails and the phones.
It seems that Rove is finnally getting to work. One week's time is very slow for him, but it appears that Rove is begining to work the media ho's over.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 02:24 PM
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35. Yeah, "Oil Can Harry" is in high gear
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 02:18 PM
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33. David has been one of the very few who has actively pursued
the truth from these criminals on many occasions. He was persistent with Scotty, even to the point of coming close to a physical skirmish, and he hasn't let up on Tony Snow either.

I saw the Bill Maher thing and I didn't get that take from David. In fact, while David was trying to be very fair in his statements about bush, the slight eyerolls and grins were total give-aways.

Do you think counterattack presumes the dems are behind the timing? I think he just meant it literally, or perhaps, "the pubs have finally stopped attacking each other and are now counterattacking the dems."

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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 02:34 PM
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36. "Counter-attack" legitimizes some notion
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 02:37 PM by chill_wind
that there is a basis for any counterattack to be had. There isn't.
There is no "there" there.

Eleny nailed it. He's in the word business. This is crap. An effort to prolong the story in any direction they think they can. There isn't a big media persona alive that isn't LOVING this cess-pool and every ratings grab they can get and prolong, no matter how much stupid patter they have to use as momentary fill-in.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 02:38 PM
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37. The counterattack would have us believe that Dems held back information
What's come out this past week are assertions that the Republicans have had this information for years. So, I've analyzed this "counterattack" talking point in the full context of events and revelations.

If the Republicans want to counterattack - it should be against those who came forward. They did some of that agaisnt Melanie Sloan and her CREW organization. Another attack would be to take after the Pages themselves - which they tried, to the disgust of the public. But to go after Dems, with no proof - that's deflection.
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Marlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 03:09 PM
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38. Gregory's exact words regarding Bush on Maher's show
The following is posted on Bill's Maher's website:

On President Bush

It's kind of fashionable to dismiss him as a dumb guy. It's not true. I think people who don't like him comfort themselves with that. It's not the case. He's certainly a very shrewd guy, and he's a very adept politician. – David Gregory

Okay, but the press has gotten a lot of criticism because, in the run-up to the Iraq war, it has been said that they did not ask the tough questions; that they sort of let the administration sell their war without having their feet held to the fire. And now it seems like we are seeing the same script go down for Iran, the same things they said about Iraq, you know. "Oh, my God, they've got weapons of mass destruction! Oh, my God, we can't allow them to have weapons of mass destruction!" Before we actually start fighting this war, do you think the press would ask those questions we wished they asked the first time around? – Bill Maher to David Gregory

Sorry, I didn't notice the slight eyerolls and grins. The audience and Bill seemed
very surprised at Gregory's take on Bush and he didn't get much applause when
his interview was over. He was a huge disappointment to most of us.

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 03:56 PM
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39. I've always believed that W is cunning
"Shrewd" is the same. I can't tell if Gregory was trying to portray W as an intellect. I'd have to watch his body language to make a determination on that. Shrewd is a word I'd use but you'd know I meant it to carry a negative connotation given W's behavior and policies in office.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 05:41 PM
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41. bring it on
pedophile apologists
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 07:17 PM
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42. No Gregory..they are on the
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 07:22 PM by zidzi
Defensive..come on..just because they're like scurrying like cockroaches with some light shining on them..does NOT mean they're counterattacking. They got nothin'.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 07:29 PM
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43. Yes - and on Countdown just now...
It was reported that ABC says they got their information from Republican staffers.

So Dems weren't involved - unless they control Republican staffers. I don't think so.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 07:32 PM
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44. So Gregory needs to keep up
and quit listening to denny hastert.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 10:17 AM
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48. these emails were out a year. evidence was nOT a dem oct surprise
one whoe had them were fox. they were out there for a year to become public. media chose not to put them out. crew a liberal org gave to fbi in summer,.... again more evidence it is NOT from the dems. the only left org gave them up immediately and did the right thing
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:07 PM
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49. Timing-Schmining!! - The reality is the GOP cover-up of sexual predator!
hey!, reality is a hell of a place to be, at least some of the time, GOP has a serious problem dealing with the realities of its own party. fess-up, you fucked up!!
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