Who REALLY has the best chance of beating Bush in the GE?

[Mobius]

Who REALLY has the best chance of beating Bush in the GE?

*not trying to exclude anyone here, I'm just being realistic. No offense to supporters of those not listed on this poll*

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. Where's Dennis Kucinich?

His chances are surely as great as Howard Dean....

[Mobius]

2. I already addressed that question.

*not trying to exclude anyone here, I'm just being realistic. No offense to supporters of those not listed on this poll*

[quaker bill]

3. Where is Al Sharpton?

His chances are surely as great and John Kerry....

[Mobius]

4. I addressed that already.

Don't torment me.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. Why Don't You Edit Your Poll...

Sharpton and Kucinich's chances are as great as Howard Dean's...

[Mobius]

6. Because this is the way I want my poll.

sorry :7

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. It Begs The Question

Why is Howard Dean's chances greater than Dennis Kucinichs....

I'll bet if you did an analysis of campaign expenditures Dennis Kucinich and Al Sharpton might have won as many votes per dollar spent as Howard Dean...

[DFLer4edu]

28. By that logic

I have as big a voice as Bush, because more people hear me per dollar than Bush. And then I come crashing back to reality and realize that it doesn't matter if more people hear me per dollar, because Bush has way many more dollars. I think the poll should include all the canidates, but I think that anyone voting for Sharpton or Kucinich would be ignoring reality.

[Guaranteed]

12. That's just ridiculous nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. This Is Easy To Settle...

Since Dean, Sharpton, and Kucinich will not be elected pres in 04 their chances are essentially equal therefore Dean's chances are no greater than Sharpton's or Kucinich's...

Facts are stubborn things...

[Mairead]

7. If you really meant 'no offense', then you wouldn't have excluded people

The idea that someone can do something offensive and then get a pass by adding 'no offence' is...well, offensive. If you really don't want to offend, play it straight instead of trying to excuse yourself in advance.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. At Least If DK Got The Nomination We Wouldn't Have To Watch Dean's

Brayed Donkey Scream a thousand more times...

[Cuban_Liberal]

27. No, we'd just be beaten to death with 'Department of Peace'. n/t

[ThirdWheelLegend]

29. Yeah that would SUCK!

Trying to work with the world to promote peace, what a fucking crock!
Go WAR!

TWL

[Mairead]

32. Right on, TWL! Kill another baby for Oil!

None of this wimpy 'peace' stuff. Death! Destruction! Stoke the furnaces! Put the prisoners to making those nice expensive bombs and rockets! Die Fahne hoch!

[Mobius]

10. I'm just going with candidates with numbers in the double digits.

I just feel that DK is too far ahead of his time.

[dno]

11. Clark All The Way!

Clark is the man. We need a 4 Star General to go in and knock some heads.

[Mobius]

13. Clark is the man. We need a 4 Star General

Although I disagree with your assesment that he would "knock heads".

[bowens43]

18. We NEED a 4 star general?

What the f*ck for? We are electing a president of a civilian government. We sure as hell do not NEED a 4 star general. If we were electing someone to head up the military, say secretary of defense, we would then have use for a 4 star general. In the oval office being a general is about as useful lips on a chicken.

[krkaufman]

31. Actually, no

I'd say havin.... oh, why bother.

[Zynx]

15. Not JK, but I'm not sure who.

[Praline]

16. Clark has the best chance, but

I fear Heinz will carry the day. And the defeat.

[bowens43]

20. Democrats seen to disagree with you overwhelmingly.

Clark has nothing to offer. Nothing. Those who don't believe the world view being pushed by Rove, a world view based on fear and hand wringing, see the general for what he is, a product of the military with no relevant experience and apparently no idea how the government of the united states functions.

BTW Heinz isn't running. Do try to keep up.

[CJCRANE]

24. Clark has vision,

charisma, education, leadership skills and the potential to be an
international statesman.

Besides it's the civilian chickenhawks who are the problem, not the military.

[Pepperbelly]

30. Your post is truly ...

clueless regarding what Clark has to offer. Perhaps you would have been better off offering a discliamer that you really hadn't looked into it or thought about it very carefully but that your analysis was a result of knee-jerk prejudice and misinformation. If you had offered that bit of disclaimer, we might not have read the pablum you attempted to pass off as honest, insightful analysis.

Just a thought.

:D

[arwalden]

17. Whaaa! Boohoo! I'm Offended... Where's Larouche??

He's got just as much of a chance as anyone? Doesn't he? Well doesn't he? He's running! He hasn't dropped out. Hell could freeze over. Pigs could fly.

Oh for cripesakes people... so your preferred candidate was left out of this insignificant (sorry Mobius) vanity poll. Big deal. So what? Boo-stinkin-hoo.

Does it matter? Do you really care? Be honest... does it truly matter one way or the other?

:hi:

-- Allen

[diamondsoul]

19. Only because I had

every intention of voting for him in this poll. If Mobius had wanted any sort of honest result he'd have included all the candidates. I'm still trying to figure out why he bothered asking "Who REALLY..." when he doesn't care about the opinions of a large number of people on this board.

It matters because some of us respect everyone here, and it's pretty sh*tty to discover we aren't respected in return.

[Mobius]

21. Im a she

here Ill add them
*on edit It won't let me add the names to the poll.*

[diamondsoul]

23. Sorry for the gender mix-up.

I'm notorious for not reading profiles.

Also, I figured your editing window was probably already timed out. Please don't think I'm infuriated over this or anything, but the point I wanted to make is that there are a lot of people who believe Kucinich could whip the ever-lovin' crap out of Bush, they just don't think he'll get the nomination.

Personally, honestly believe Kucinich would be the nominee to beat Bush by such a huge margin there would be no chance whatsoever of another 2000 debacle.

[Mobius]

25. Well I made a new poll

since I couldn't edit this one.

[arwalden]

26. A Personal Insult Is Perceived ... Where There Is None To Be Found

It's clear to me that some folks are passionate about your candidate, but I don't understand why some people feel that they *personally* (or as a group of supporters) aren't being "respected". How is it that someones 'non-support' of their candidate is being disrespectful of them?

How is outright opposition or disrespect of a particular candidate equated to being disrespectful of that candidate's supporters?

Face it... it's just a vanity poll. Big deal. People shouldn't lose sleep over it.

But, the poll does illustrate how ludicrous online polls can be. It's also an example of how poll questions (and answers) can be skewed, cleverly phrased, or limited to give the results that the questioning organization (or person) desires.

I'm sure that Mobius' intent was to be predictively realistic about who had the best chance based on who the likely nominee would be. It's entirely hypothetical and it's a device that tests how Kucinich and Sharpton supporters lean when their candidates are removed from the mix.

Some may find the hypothesis distasteful and difficult to personally accept. Some may think that the hypothetical question is an unrealistic or unfair scenario, but it's hardly a personal attack on them.

If the poll were equivalent to the primary then you might have reason for genuine anger. If the poll were actually INFLUENTIAL, then you might have a reason for concern. But it's neither of those things and those who get upset are misdirecting their anger at someone who does not deserve that type of scorn heaped upon them.

Other than being a good object lesson about the reality of polls, this poll was harmless fluff.

-- Allen

[WilliamPitt]

22. Honestly? The answer is

"Bush"

or

"The media"

[Auntie Bush]

33. Let's face it. Clark is

really the only one to go head to head with George Bush.