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absyntheNsugar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:30 PM
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Could a candidate win the nomination without winning a single state?
Let's just say a candidate wins a majority of delegates...but fails to win a single state completely.

Could that candidate win the nomination?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:34 PM
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1. Yes. If no candidate has enough delegates by the convention, it's all
Edited on Thu Feb-05-04 10:48 PM by MercutioATC
up for grabs. If Kerry is just one delegate short, the other candidates' delegates could vote as a bloc and nominate Sharpton.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:36 PM
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2. only if the wins are spread across a wide variety of other candidates
and the one guy is a close enough 2nd everywhere to get near even splits on the delegates.

In other words, no. All the conditions are not present this time out.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:37 PM
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3. Technically, I believe so
But the Super Delegates would step in, & make sure it never happens.
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:37 PM
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4. That's what Dennis expects to happen
He said that he will win the primary because it will be a brokered one and everyone will decide to have a real Democrat run and elect him.
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liberty rising Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:56 PM
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11. Kucinich=Real Democrat
Yes, Tweed,
That's what Dennis said, and that's what may very well happen.....
never say never...


Liberty Rising
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:57 AM
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14. Hi liberty rising!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:37 PM
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5. He or she would need to get 15% or more consistently in each state.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:41 PM
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9. Not so. (read post #1)
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:37 PM
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6. Absolutely
And even more possible with a crowded field.
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absyntheNsugar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:38 PM
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7. Im thinking some other scenario
Lets say Kerry wins some states, and Edwards wins some states, and Clark wins several more. Dean does not win a single state.

However, Dean comes in second in many of the races - enough to rack up a majority of delegates.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:40 PM
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8. Again, even Sharpton (not picking on him) could win. It's all about
the convention (if it comes to that). If nobody has enough delegates by the convention, anything could happen.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:42 PM
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10. A candidate can win without even running
That's what the convention is for.
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ajacobson Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 11:38 PM
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12. Historically this has happened
Edited on Thu Feb-05-04 11:38 PM by ajacobson
Humphrey entered the race too late for the primaries in 1968. Obviously there were so many unique factors in that situation, makes it unlikely to happen again. It's possible though, I think (i.e. no party rules preventing a nomination of a new candidate after a first nomination ballot, releasing pledged delegates).
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 11:40 PM
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13. Yep.
:)
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