DEAN raises over $684,000 and counting...just today!

[nradisic]

Folks... We are far from Dead. Americans are not know to throw money at a "Finished Candidate". This is absolutely amazing.
Off, By and For the People. Apparently there are many more Dean supporters coming out of the wood work. Don't count us out just yet folks.....it is called People Power. The goal was to raise $700,000 for ads in Wisconsin by Sunday. Dean will raise that in less than 24 hours today. Hmmm......This campaign is far from broke. No one has this kind of base.


Confucious say....."He who laughs last,laughs best"....time will tell


Howard Dean 2004

[dorktv]

1. Considering he apparently still had 5 mil in the bank after

bills, I was wondering why they were saying he was broke.

[Skip Intro]

2. "They" being the media, right? n/t

[dorktv]

3. Who else?!

[Darranar]

4. And this was all "grass-roots", I suppose?

[dorktv]

5. I would assume so...8,854 by yesterday.

[madfloridian]

6. Over 8,000 given just today, 1/3 new contributors.

Amazing, huh?

[LuminousX]

9. Who the hell cares, this is amazing

[Darranar]

13. Bush has raised quite a bit of money for his campaign, too...

does that make him a good president?

I don't think Dean is in any way equivalent to Bush - in fact, Dean is unquestionably better then Bush, and I will support him in the GE if he gets the nomination - but my point is that the amount of money a candidate raises has little to do with how good a president they would make.

[LuminousX]

15. If Bush were to raise it in the fasion that Dean has, I would take

a second look at him.

This is amazing.

[Darranar]

18. How do you know Dean isn't raising it the way Bush is?

[dorktv]

23. Because I know exactly TWO two thousand dollar supporters

and they are accumalative.

[joshcryer]

25. Because the majority of the contributions are well under $200.

That's how.

[Darranar]

26. Do you have a source for this?

[Nazgul35]

36. yes...

It's called the Federal Election Commission....

do a goggle search..

[dorktv]

37. Um check the FEC

Do you remember that 12,500 page filing that he sent in a few months ago?

[LuminousX]

41. LOL

[joshcryer]

54. Yes, OpenSecrets.org, link below:

http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/donordems.asp?format=&sortby=S

This is why Clark is my second supported candidate here, only Kucinich beats them both in under $200 contributions, but I do see him as too far of a long shot (and I do feel bad for seeing it that way, but I'm trying to be as realistic as possible; I will know when it's Dean's turn to give it up). Look at Edwards and Kerry... fun, huh?

[Darranar]

58. Thanks, that's also interesting.

[Clark4Prez]

63. Dean 56% from $200 or less

http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/donordems.asp

Candidate
No. of $200+
Contributors
No. of $2,000+
Contributors
% from Donors
of $2,000+
% from Donors
of $200 or less

Bush, George W
48,918
29,803
73%
12%

Dean, Howard
18,364
1,554
13%
56%

Kerry, John
12,717
4,362
55%
12%

Edwards, John
10,985
4,396
65%
3%

Clark, Wesley
2,938
512
31%
35%

Kucinich, Dennis
2,141
179
11%
65%

Larouche, Lyndon H Jr
2,064
61
5%
45%

Sharpton, Al
209
78
64%
9%

[HFishbine]

70. The sources you requested

Here it is in the most straight forward terms:

http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/donordems.asp

You might find this interesting too (really): http://www.fundrace.org

[Darranar]

33. Another question...

If Dean is so loved by the voting populace, which is why he is getting so much money, why is he doing so badly in the primaries?

If his campaign was grass-roots, and since he's managed to raise so much money, wouldn't the support of so many ordinary people reflect in the primaries with electoral success for Dean?

[Nazgul35]

43. What...

you think Kerry's support in all the polls is based on love?

What percentage of those who have voted for him after NH would you say could even name three of his policy positions?

Kerry's winning because Dem voters perceive him as a winner....for winning in the two whitest, rural states in the union.....

Now the question you should be asking, is that if Kerry gets the nomination...will he be able to hold up to a scrutiny 10xs worse than Dean went through....

[Darranar]

48. Frankly, no...

I think it's based on electability.

I don't see much difference between Dean and Kerry on policies, aside from the fact that one was senator at the time of the IWR and the other wasn't. The main difference, I suppose, is that I trust Kerry (relatively; he is, after all a politician) while I don't trust Dean, because of the way he's pretending to be a liberal and anti-war when in fact he is nothing of the sort.

Seeing as how Dean got 5x as much media coverage as Kerry, I think the fact that he has managed to survive is pretty impressive.

[dorktv]

60. A1 Dean was not the one to claim he was liberal, it was the media

and B2 he was Anti-current Iraq war. Not anti-all war. That is the guy YOU support.
As for electablity, I say any guy who can sign a civil unions bill at 35% and STILL manages to win his next election is electible.

[Darranar]

64. Yes, I agree, he is not a liberal...

And I support pacifists over those who are only against wars after the fact, when it is politically convienient to do so.

[dorktv]

66. I saw him first in March and he was anti-war then.

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[frustrated_lefty]

38. Do the calculations yourself

Divide the donation total by the number of contributors, you get the average donation made. I calculated it earlier, it was about $77 per donor. Yeah, I'd say that's grass roots.

[Darranar]

49. The original post had no statistics on the number of contributers...

could you provide some, please?

Preferably with a link as well?

[frustrated_lefty]

74. Link:

$693,103.76 divided by 9,886 donors equals $70.1096 per donor. That's of

If you want frequently updated info on this, just check www.deanforamerica.com. If you're skeptical, stick with the FEC. They're slower, but you get more details.

[Duder]

51. Could be "grass-roots"...

Dean's #1 in getting small contributions from all over America.

http://www.fundrace.org/moneyindex.html

[Darranar]

57. Interesting, thanks.

[xultar]

7. That's what I'm talkin 'bout! Congratulations n/t

[dorktv]

8. You know...I prefer a Dean/Clark ticket but man ABK.

[arcos]

10. if the bat is broken in the next 50 mins, you should edit your post!!

;) :hi:

[patricia92243]

11. Dean is the last resort for this nation - if we don't take it, we'll.....

deserve what we get. We have been offered one, last final time to get back in the White House. If the opportunity is not taken now, it will never come this way again.

There will never be another real, two party system in the U.S. again.

Most people don't realize the dire, dire circumstances our nation is in.

[Exgeneral]

28. Hey, I think Kery understands this perfectly

hence the reference to him "establishment candidate"

TWO parties? Why , that would be...unthinkable!

[maxr4clark]

12. Way to go Dean!

[Cocoa]

14. that's a lot of chocolate truffles!

Just teasing, I don't think the truffles thing is a big deal. :-)

[Meldread]

16. Woohoo!

I say let's shoot for 1 mill!

[Name removed]

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[dorktv]

19. What debts? Most news reports have him either with a few mil

in the Black or about even.

[nradisic]

21. Uhm...the Dean cmpaign has no debt

DEan is a serious fiscal conservative and did not want to borrow any money for the campaign. We've got the $$$$$. let's see how the other guys hold up. People Power!

[Exgeneral]

24. I didn't read that

It's the MEDIA framing that AFAIK. I don't thik the Dean campaign will quit , until the convention, mark my words.

[LuminousX]

27. He has no debts.

After all debts were paid off, he would have roughly $5 million as of last week.

You amuse me.

[joshcryer]

35. Yes, I agree, AP's attacks against Dean are amusing.

Very amusing.

[1floridademocrat]

34. Please

AP,

You've been posting this on EVERY pro Dean thread.. you have no FACTS to back it up, just something you read on the Edwards blog.

I've always respected you, I don't always agree with you, but I've respected you. Supporters like you were one reason Edwards was my number 2..

But your near constant "dean is only raising money for debt pay back.."

Its non factual.
Its snarky
You've got NO way to back that up.

I kinda tend to go with the you support your guy, and we will support ours *shrug* Can you please try to refrain from making non factual snarky posts on Dean threads when his supporters are actually HAPPY about Dean's fundraising today. How in any way does what you post HELP Edwards?

It doesn't. Its pure bull to simply try and draw blood from Dean supporters.

Maybe its cause edwards doesn't have this kind of backing..
Maybe its because HE'S gone public with some money problems himself?

I really don't know why you do it man..

[MercutioATC]

45. Have a link for that "debt"? It doesn't exist.

Dean's at least $4M in the black. If you have information that says otherwise, I'd be interested in seeing it.

[arcos]

20. $665k! over $17k in the last 15 mins!!!! n/t

[WillyT]

22. Damn... Lookin Pretty Good Here !!!

Wish we could limit everybody to $77 average donations, LOL!!!

:shrug:

[DancingBear]

29. A kick for the Doc

keep it goin', guys!

:kick:

[nradisic]

30. Another $50 for the bat

I couldn't resist. I love throwing $$$ at the bat. Care to join in? just go to www.deanforamerica.com and join the People Powered campaign for true change in Washington. Go Dean!!!


Howard Dean 2004

[TexasPatriot]

31. you guys rock

:yourock:

[MercutioATC]

Thanks! I've noticed the "train" is going pretty well too!

Congrats!

[nradisic]

32. Can you say $700,000...update in minutes...

Go Dean!!! Man,love this. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy....

[dorktv]

39. I am starting to feel better now.

I was bummed because after all our hard work, somehow we lost to Kerry here in AZ but now I remember why I love Dean.

[slinkerwink]

40. it's just totally amazing!

[GalleryGod]

42. Kerry. First Ballot. Boston. Edwards Veep .Get A Good Seat & Some Popcorn.

You can buy a lot of Vermont Chocolate with that.:loveya:

CARVILLE SAY: "Stick a fork in him. He.s Done!" :nuke:

[LuminousX]

46. You're beautiful.

[Duncan Grant]

44. Woo-Hoo! Just putting money where the mouth is...

go get 'em Dean! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[joshcryer]

47. Seems to be averaging 40k an hour. Should break in an hour.

That's really absolutely fantastic. In less than 24 hours the Dean people have done it. I have never in my life seen that kind of contributing.

[Jack_Dawson]

50. Vegas would love Dean supporters

edited: I'm not trying to sound "snarky", but I used to be a blackjack dealer and when you've dealt cards for awhile you realize that there are certain irrefutable...momentum swings in life. If you are getting their ass handed to you at the tables, you need to get up, go to the lounge, order a prime rib sandwich and a beer. In other words, stop and regroup. Anything else falls under "chasing your losses."

But then again, the media has also buried Clark and I sent him another $50 today so I guess I'm right there with ya. Peace.

[MercutioATC]

53. Thanks for the snarky reply.

I'm sure the chuckle it gave you was worth the ill will it's generating for your candidate.

[1floridademocrat]

56. *sigh*

Why must Non Dean supporters come on Pro Dean threads about his fundraising today and go OUT of thier way to make snarky comments?

I looked at three Pro clark fundraising threads just now.. and ya know.. I didn't see any Dean people basjing Clarks supporters.

Can't you just accept the fact that

A) Dean supporters want Dean to stay in.
B) Dean supporters are giving thier all for him to stay in.
C) Dean supporters are very willing to put thier money where thier mouth is.

Its that simple. We like Dean, we want him to win. We will fight our damndest to make that happen, and if the campaign comes to us ad says "Hey guys, we need X amount for X" kick in what you can, we are going to do it.

[GumboYaYa]

73. WooHoo, give it to em..

1floridademocrat. Dr. Dean has to be on cloud nine tonight. Talk about rejuvenating your camoaign. I hope the press takes note of what we did today.

Be proud Dean supporters; this shows the world how serious we are about taking back our country.

[joshcryer]

59. As a clark supporter you should be ashamed.

We're both grassroots campaigns, both of us are putting loads of individual contributions into our favored candidate, who by all indications, are not going to win due to media-selected Kerry.

Oh well, I'm behind your guy.

[arcos]

52. $684k n/t

[Meldread]

61. Let's go for 1 mill!

[killbotfactory]

62. Yeeeaarrgh!

We're gonna beat the goal tonight!

[Duncan Grant]

65. $693,100 and counting 10:30 pm -nt-

[joshcryer]

67. We should break 700k in the next update (3 minutes)!

That's simply incredible!

[JNelson6563]

68. In One Day!

Truly amazing. :toast:

Julie

[Darranar]

69. Yes, it is...

Congratulations, Dean supporters!

:toast:

[NV1962]

71. Tremendous...

What a wonderful sight to see so many people putting their money where their faith is.

You and your guy deserve it - hopefully he'll pull off an upset on the 7th!

:toast:

[arcos]

72. BAT BROKEN: $711k!!! New goal: $1,400,000! n/t

[Malikshah]

75. It is something that the media should pay attention to...

In a little over 12 hours...711+K....

It is one for the books.... and how many contributors...???? :)

This is what democracy looks like, folks.

[joshcryer]

78. Unfuckingbelievable.

Simply amazing.

[nradisic]

76. Holy *%$#@*!!!

There is no way you can count this guy out. No way. The media is going to blow a gasket when we win WI. People Power!!!


Howard Dean 2004

[Malikshah]

77. Wisconsin shmisconsin...

This is what people want..

[markus]

79. Make it a Million by Morning!

Hell, I've been tight with cash (for good reason) but now that my primary is past, it's all I can do. It's too late to write. But I can scrape something together.

If I can right now, so can you.

[WillyT]

80. That Is Just... Awesome !!!

:bounce::kick::bounce:

On edit: Oops, forgot this:




:yourock: