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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:08 PM
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Are we headed for a split convention?
Edited on Thu Feb-05-04 03:42 PM by supernova
Here's where I'm coming from; look at the results so far:

John Kerry (248)*
Missouri
Arizona
Delaware
Arizona
Iowa
New Hampshire

John Edwards (102)*
South Carolina

Wesley Clark (80)*
Oklahoma

Howard Dean (121)*



* Total number of delegates. Statistics courtesy of CNN. Thanks HFishbine for finding that. :hi: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/scorecard/graphical.html

My question: Is it possible that the plethora of candidates could siphon off just enough delegates so that no one candidate hits the magic number 2161 before the convention? What would that be like? Do you think it would be a good or a bad idea and why or why not?

I DO NOT want this to turn into a "my candidate is better than your candidate" flamefest. I'm only focusing on strategy.

I have my thoughts, but I'd like to hear yours first.






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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:09 PM
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1. It's possible, but unlikely.
Kerry is on a roll now, and it's difficult to see him not making the majority of delegates by mid-March.
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:11 PM
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2. Depends...
Kerry won 50% in 3 states on tuesday, if he continues that course, and gets most of the superdelegates, it won't be.

That assumes everybody stays in. I don't think they will. Dean will until mathematically he's lost, because he'll have the money. Clark and Edwards won't have the money. And Kerry is going to either get big Dem fundraisers to work for him or run out of money or have a debt to pay after he secures the nom.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:11 PM
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3. I hope so......the leader, Kerry, is not looking out
for the interest of the constituents but only for the party insiders. I want better than who is in office right now. I want my country back...if it is at all possible.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:12 PM
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5. Just so you know
Kerry is a lot better than who is in office right now.
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:13 PM
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6. Just so you know two wrongs don't make a right.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:15 PM
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7. Um, that doesn't answer the question
Edited on Thu Feb-05-04 03:16 PM by supernova
This little side bar is getting close to what I don't want.

So liberalnurse and Democrats unite, you're saying you would like a brokered convention? Why or why not?

edit: spelling
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:21 PM
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10. What I am saying is let the primaies continue.
We will deal with a brokered Convention at the time, if there happens to be one.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:11 PM
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4. It's like poker
I mean someobody is going to figure that their hand isn't good enough and drop out or say "Well Candidate X, you ran a good campaign." "Thank you, Candidate Y, and I want you to know that there is a place for you in my administration."

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:17 PM
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8. Nope. Kerry Homecoming in Boston. No Hotel Room Needed.
JK gets to sleep in his own bed....1st ballot Win! BTW after March 2nd...all those "Dean" super delegates will switch to "Kerry" Super Delegates in the blink of an eye!

*Ain't been a split convention in 52 years-won't start now.

* The Making of the President 1960,1964,1968,& 1972.
* Marathon: The Race for the White House 1976,
* Whose Broad Stripes and Bright Stars: 1984

Etc,Etc,Etc.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:17 PM
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9. Your Numbers
That link you cite is innacurate (it actually has Clark with 300 delegates.) Here's an accurate total to date:

Kerry: 248
Dean: 121
Edwards: 102
Clark: 80
Lieberman: 25
Sharpton: 5
Kucinich: 2

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/scorecard/index.html

For a very telling look, see it in graphical form: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/scorecard/graphical.html
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:42 PM
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12. Thank you
for the find. I corrected my post. :hi:
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YouMustBeKiddingMe Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:23 PM
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11. It is waaaaay too early to tell that
I seriously doubt it, but there are 41 more states to go. Super Tuesday is not until March ... 3rd is it? That will give a better picture with big states like CA and NY.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:43 PM
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13. It may be too early
Edited on Thu Feb-05-04 04:03 PM by supernova
to be asking this question, but I'm a speculative kind of woman. ;-)
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:45 PM
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14. Wouldn't it be funny with these superdelegates and such...
How "the establishment" candidate (Kerry) gets more support from "the people" (ie. actual votes), but the candidate who is supposedly for "the people" gets support from of "the establishment" (ie. endorsements/delegates).
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 04:04 PM
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15. Yes,
that is one concept that has crossed my mind.

I just find it all very interesting.
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