Does this dream mean I'm softening toward Kerry?

[progressivebydesign]

I'm a firm believer in gleaning info from my dreams. They are usually pretty straight-forward scenarios, or easily interpreted (i.e. tidal wave over the house when money problems are gnawing, out of control car when a relationship is out of control). Easy stuff.

So.. I had a dream this morning about John Kerry. I am a strong Dean supporter, and have resisted Kerry because I felt he was being forced on the voters by the media. I will support Dean all the way to the WHite House, or until he has to drop out. I've always said I would vote ABB if Kerry got the nod, but would not volunteer for him. But, perhaps my resistance to him is based more on some of the activity here on this board, which hasn't been real positive. So, let's see:

In my dream I was hanging out with Kerry. I really liked him. I though he had a nice voice, and was reassuring and I remember being suprised at how much I liked his personality, and how comforting it was to be around him. I woke up disappointed that the dream was over, I was having a good time hanging out with Kerry.

So. Here's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking I need to really check out Kerry, not rely so much on my feelings about some of his supporters that have been.. well.. outspoken against Dean. Maybe I'm being unfair to Kerry, and it was my subconciousness telling me not to be so hardheaded. What do you think??

[salinen]

1. He's not the guy who I'd like to have

a beer with. Other candidates appeal more to my liberal views. But, come Nov, if he's who gets the nod, I'll vote Kerry.

[LisaM]

2. Well, after a lot of soul searching I think I have chosen Kerry

When I go to the caucuses on Saturday (WA), I'll vote Kucinich in the first round, for ideological reasons, then go with Kerry for practical reasons. I have been quite disappointed with Dean's slide, but I'm thankful it happened NOW, not when/if he was up against *bush. But more than that, Dean is starting to remind me of Nader. I cannot stand it how he keeps calling Kerry a "Republican" and how, when he's interviewed, he slips into talking points, rather than engaging with the person interviewing him. Calling Kerry a Republican is a LIE and it sounds ugly, and it just reminds me of old Ralph and his raspy voice spewing his bile. I don't need that.

[progressivebydesign]

10. I'm caucusing in Washington too..

I had planned to caucus for Dean. I've never caucused before, being from a state of just voting. It will be interesting. Have you caucused before? What part of Washington are you in?

When I drove to Port Townsend the other day, Dean and very much Kucinich were the signs and stickers plastered everywhere.

[pezcore64]

11. ...

so you dont want to vote for dean because hes had a slide? no wonder hes slid so much with that type of mentality in his supporters !

[JI7]

3. how tall was he ?

in the dream ?

[progressivebydesign]

5. Tall and reassuring.. N/T

[flpoljunkie]

4. Intriguing. Walter Shapiro, USAToday, said the same thing about Kerry...

when he wrote his book called, "One-Car Caravan"--about the time he spent with all of Democratic candidates last summer.

Shapiro was asked on C-Span, which candidate he would most like to "have a beer with" or hangout with, if you like--and he responded, surprisingly--John Kerry, who has been characterized by the media as "aloof." Perhaps you sense this quality in Kerry.

[LisaM]

6. Why does acting intelligent peg someone as aloof?

People always said that about Gore, too, yet I thought he just seemed brainy. People kept saying they'd rather have a beer with *bush (who doesn't even drink, which makes that statistic all the more fascinating) than with Gore, but I never understood that. What, are people afraid of conversation? of brains?

[Zomby Woof]

8. You know Bush still drinks!

But damned if I would ever have a beer with him. Though it would be far more fun for the Secret Service to kick me out of a place after letting him have a dose of the Zomby Troof. ;-)

[JI7]

7. kerry's supporters

why do you think many who actually do know him are huge supporters of his ? look at how his family and friends love to go out and support him. just because the media doesn't show it doesn't mean it's not true. like the firefighters who kerry helped for years, even before 9/11. the media wasn't there to show this , but they know who was there and are some of his biggest supporters now.

[booksenkatz]

9. Very interesting

Yes, I think it was your subconscious telling you what my subconscious has been telling me: that no matter how much I love Clark, it is a very real possibility that Kerry, my third choice, will get the Dem nom, and it's time to deal with it and LEARN to like this guy.

It's a two-party system ~ I didn't make up the rules, but those are the rules for 2004. So it's a waste of time for me to sit around dreaming about Utopia and a 100% perfect dream candidate. Any one of these men is better than Bush, even if it is only 1/8" better, that 1/8" will still make a tiny shred of difference somewhere in someone's life. Anybody who wants to sit and pout and not vote Dem in November because their candidate didn't win the primaries needs to think about the Supreme Court... the next prez might get as many as FOUR new justices in there. No one can say with a straight face that the justices Bush would choose are the "same ones" that Kerry or Clark or Dean or Edwards would choose. Those kinds of statements are total hyperbole and not even worth a response.

And by the way, I don't think that any of these men is as godlike or as Satanic as many DUers would like to believe. They are human, no more, no less. Each one has done things I totally agree with, and each one has done things that I totally disagree with. The one I picked isn't doing so well, and no matter how much that disappoints me and bewilders me, I still have an understanding with my fellow Democrats that I will vote for their dreamboat in November because they agreed to vote for my guy if mine wins. Don't we have a bargain like this? Isn't that what unity is about? The Freepers understand it, why can't we? So I intend to hold up my part of this bargain. In the end, my job is to work like hell to get Bush out of the White House in November and fight about the other stuff later.

As long as we Dems are sitting here on the sidelines, we can't even begin to start changing a damn thing. I don't know about y'all, but I don't care to sit on the sidelines bitching and whining and moaning for another 4 years. It accomplishes nothing. If you don't like the choices that are out there, run for office yourself and shut the f--- up. I don't want to listen to it anymore about how "so-and-so isn't 100% perfect." No one is perfect. SHUT UP. (I don't mean you Caliphoto, LOL)

So yeah, I guess what I'm trying to say here is that Kerry wasn't my first choice, either, but I'm going to focus on the positives I find in him and learn to like him. There could still be some surprises ahead in the primaries, but that is looking less and less likely. I'll support whoever wins because I owe it to my 4-year-old son not to let Bush have another 4 years in the White House, it's as simple as that.

[progressivebydesign]

12. Excellent points..

Don't worry, I didnt' think you meant I should "shut up". I have been trying to get those themes out here on DU. Not everyone is all good or all evil. Even Bush has lots of friends, and I hear he's actually quite likable. My only problem with Kerry's image, and I say this as a fast-talking West Coast person, is that he draws out the last bit of each word when he speaks... I have ADD, and a tendency to finish other people's sentences, when someone hangs like that.. it makes me crazy! I want to yell, "say it! just say it already!". Maybe I liked Dean cuz he's so hyper. :bounce: (like me).

[hippiegranny]

13. Reposted from a different thread

I was undecided up until the night before the AZ primary. I had initially been drawn to Dean, but then I liked what Clark brought to the table. I honestly didn't even think much at all about Kerry until after Iowa and NH. At that point, my partner, who is not into all of this as much as I am, started reading up on Kerry and sharing her views with me about him. I was still ready to go to the polls and vote for Clark when I found out about a rally for John Kerry at Phoenix College on Monday night, so I asked my s.o. if she wanted to go, and that if he said what I wanted to hear, I'd consider changing my vote from Clark to the front-runner.

After a rousing accoustic set by Stephen Stills, John Kerry came out and guess what? He did it. He addressed almost all my issues: the economy, the bogus tax cuts for the rich, the bogus drug prescrip bill, the environment, the need for alternative energy, the phony aircraft carrier landing and the need to bring the rest of the world back to the table so we can fix this mess in Iraq, the shameful way veteran bennies are being cut... and on and on. Then Teresa took the stage and I fell in love. She is a lifelong philathropist, and environmentalist and women's rights advocate - in short, the perfect first lady.

As I said, JK addressed almost all my issues. Before I made my final decision I went to his website to see where he stands on issues like choice and glbt issues. While he hasn't made glbt a major facet of his platform, I am satisfied that he is fair and will not allow the Constitution to be amended in order to exclude us. He has a 100% approval rating from the HRC.

So I voted Kerry on Tuesday, and I am not sorry I did. What I am sorry for is that I spent so much time in this forum yesterday getting pissed off at the hotheads who cannot seem to keep the prize in sight - getting Bush the Lesser out of office.

[progressivebydesign]

14. Your post made me realize as you listed your issues..

I think that pretty much all of the candidates have adopted the same issue at this point. It all really does come down to whom you'd like to see in the White House. And who YOU believe can get the job done in November. Not who the media, or the pundits, or the guy next door believes can do it. Electability is subjective. I'm glad to read your post, and I'll definitely check out Kerry.

[WarNoMore]

15. that's funny

One of my first posts here was about a Kerry dream. My overall impression was also tall and reassuring.

[progressivebydesign]

18. Wow.. that is wierd!

I'm a big believer in dreams, and I have lot of ESP experiences. I've also seen ghosts a few more times than I'd like to have! Funny we had the same feeling about Kerry in the dream. Damn, now I'd like to have a beer with him! (well... maybe not beer, but Kahlua with lots of ice and cream).

[leyton]

16. I dreamt about the election as well...

(shows where my passion lies!)

I dreamt that in one day, John Edwards won the Democratic primary and the election. And I'll tell you, it was quite a euphoric dream. It was as if I had been elected President. Felt great.

But yeah, I think you should take another look at Kerry. I did after he won big, and decided he was almost as good as my first pick.

[progressivebydesign]

19. I dream politics every night now!! N/T

[ludwigb]

17. John Kerry's always seemed like a cool guy to me

I have no doubt that I would like him personally were I to get to know him. Unfortunatly I cannot express as much confindence about the rest of the country.

And let's not forget his mediocre political instincts, which, as we conviently forget, helped enable the Dean rise last summer.

[blm]

20. His wife said a few weeks ago that he got back to campaigning too soon

after his surgery and the first four months were harder for him physically than he acknowledged. By the time he was in condition, the course had been set for Dean especially in the media.

[Straight Shooter]

21. Oh, Lord, I once dreamed that I was enjoying bush's company

Molly Ivins' voice boomed in the dream, "George, go home!"

That was about 6 months ago. Dreams are weird. Why not ask yourself as you're about to nod off for some insight into why you prefer Dean? You might have an even better dream! :)

[MIMStigator]

22. Oh, %&#@ !!! I had the same damn dream!

Hanging out with Kerry at some speech (he wasn't the speaker)and thinking he was cool and yeah reassuring