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aquanut Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:13 AM
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What happened in NH on January 11th?
That's about the day in which John Kerry's numbers bottomed out and started to climb.

At that time he had already pulled out many of his resources from NH to focus on Iowa. He was campaigning mostly in Iowa. Yet his (ARG) numbers started to go up from 10% from January 11th and they peaked at 38% two days before the primary. That's a 28% climb in 25 days for a guy who wasn't even in the state much for a lot of that period.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/new_hampshire_polls.html
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:19 AM
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1. Can you say AOL/Time Warner?
You know them as the folks who own CNN. They are one big time contributor to Kerry.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:21 AM
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2. It sure does smell......
Edited on Thu Feb-05-04 09:22 AM by liberalnurse
Thats why Kerry will never get my vote. He has many *bush campaign similarities ....Bonesman stick together.....

4-more years of *bush maybe better than Kerry since we already know the game plan....we can prepare and already have a defense plan against *bush. I fail to see the difference between the two. I wish it wasn't like that.....I just don't trust the guy.....
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:31 AM
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6. What??????
Edited on Thu Feb-05-04 09:33 AM by saywhat
Respectfully, I really, really, REALLY don't understand how you can begin to say that 4 more of * is better than Kerry! Kerry certainly isn't my first choice but he's a decent Democrat. He'll promote liberal values and positions. While he's beholden to a few corporate interests, there's no way anyone cannot have some of these skeletons, due to our corrupt electoral system. Once we get the presidency and Senate (House is probably not in the cards for 10 years) back we may have a real shot at significant CFR. Until then, caniddates have to get elected by dealing with the system.

But if * steals or actually wins the next election, this country is doomed, IMO.
:scared:
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:57 AM
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10. I get truly sick to my stomach when I see Liberals on here say Bush is
better than so and so.

Knowing what has happened in the last 4 years...HOW CAN YOU THINK THAT!

Roe v. Wade
Constitutional Ammendment tro codify discrimination (ban gay marriage AND the passing of the rights of marriage by any other name)
Environment
Education
War
Economy

Our loyalty to a candidate in the primary should not blind us to the goal in November.
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Odallas Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:13 AM
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11. Argument for Bush re-election in November
The thought sickens me but real change in our political system will not occur until until the American public become fully aware of how this system has been corrupted. Four more years (or less?)of BUSHCORP could be the boot that kicks the sleeping citizens awake. I like Sen. Kerry. I am impressed by his voting record on environmental issues. He should remain a Senator.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:15 AM
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13. Welcome to DU Odallas!
:hi:

I just want to get one thing clear though. You would RATHER have * than Kerry as president?
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:23 AM
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3. Firefighters and union workers were knocking on doors and...
Edited on Thu Feb-05-04 09:26 AM by displacedtexan
making phone calls to voters in Iowa and NH, along with thousands of other volunteers across the nation.
Meanwhile, back in Iowa, firefighters and union leaders (remember the caucus guy on C-SPAN?)in each precinct knew exactly how many Kerry supporters they needed at each meeting place...and they delivered the votes.
The media concentrated on the 'organization' of other campaigns, but they had written off the Kerry campaign by then.

Oops! I forgot to mention the veterans! Sorry!
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:28 AM
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5. Perhaps the robocalling began ?
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:26 AM
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4. Well, clearly skull and bones members fanned out...
and planted chips in the heads of 38% of democratic voters. I mean isn't it painfully obvious that is what happened? They did it in Iowa as well as the other states Kerry won. Why can't the rest of america see this?

And clearly it's already starting with the over 50% of the people being polled who say that they will vote for Kerry over bush in November.

We can only hope that they run out of chips before this insidious plan takes hold.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:34 AM
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7. Yeah, but even if they run out of chips
The mind control lasers might become optional, and there just aren't enough tin foil hats to go around.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:40 AM
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9. But what about the reverse vampires?
Clearly they had a hand in all of this.

We're through the looking glass, people.
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:39 AM
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8. Kerry/electability/Mass.
Lately we've been hearing a lot about Kerry being the voters' choice due to perceived electability.

How will the current flap about gay marriage in Mass. affect that?

I think the decision in Mass. is the right one, and long overdue, but I'm afraid that if gay marriage is going to be something Bush focuses on in the GE, and most Americans seem to be against legalizing gay marriage, it could be a real problem for Kerry as the nominee.

I know that Kerry says he doesn't support gay marriage, but does support civil unions. Unfortunately, that's a distinction that (like many of Kerry's positions) probably doesn't make a good sound-byte. The distinction probably isn't going to be clear to many people.

Is this issue, particularly in his home state, going to give an edge to one of his opponents in future primaries/caucuses? I'd guess Edwards would be the main beneficiary if it does.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:14 AM
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12. What did Dean do on January 10th?
probably something to swing undecideds away and to Kerry.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:18 AM
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14. Dean gave his "I Have a Scream" speech
It was over the minute he yelped.
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aquanut Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 11:11 AM
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15. Maybe it was Michael Whouley magic
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/16/opinion/main593698.shtml

I don't think Kerry's rise is unpresidented... In '92, didn't Clinton go from nowhere to NH front runner in about a month? I'm still searching for specifics...
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