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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 07:56 AM
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Clark: Who was a (War monger?)
Not that I believe it, but in the spirit of balance and fairness.... an article from the Dissident voice covering Clark:

From Doug Ireland:

Editor's Note: I've long admired Michael Moore's film work and many of his writings, overlooking his often annoying tendency for self-puffery. Outside of his films, books and articles, Moore has spent a great deal of time and money working on issues kindred to progressives. That said, his recent article/letter imploring General Wesley Clark to run for the presidency on the Democratic ticket reveals that Moore has (temporarily I hope) gone plumb stupid. In the PS to his most recent piece, Moore writes: "Thanks for the astounding response to the Wesley Clark letter (and for your kind comments to me). Over 95% of the thousands of letters received favored the General tossing his helmet in the ring. All were passed on to his organization. More to come on the road to removing Bush..."

Clark announced yesterday that he is running for the presidency as a Democratic candidate.

This is even lamer than folks of liberal, progressive, or left persuasion backing the non-liberal Howard Dean this early in the campaign, when clearly there is a genuinely progressive alternative in the form of Dennis Kucinich. Kucinich is only a "long shot" because liberal and so-called progressive groups have made it a self-fulfilling prophecy by reiterating this over and over, while throwing their time and resources into Dean. Given the positions Kucinich supports that Moore would presumably agree with (single-payer health care, universal pre-kindergarten care for all children, a just peace in the Middle East, scaling back the military budget, repealing NAFTA and other investor rights treaties, principled opposition to the war in Iraq, remove US troops from Iraq, emphasis on alternative energy resources, scaling back corporate power, etc.), I would think Moore would be putting a spotlight on and rallying folks to support Kucinich. All of this shows what a pathetic state of affairs the Left is in here in the US.



As a public service, here are links to a number of articles describing the real Wesley Clark, and it ain't pretty. He's a four-star general on account of his commanding ability to kiss the asses of those above him, probably his only skill when you consider what some of his military colleagues have to say (see the CounterPunch articles), and the man is clearly a pathological egomaniac. If any of you have seen his appearances in different settings (during NATO press conferences, giving testimony to Congress, etc.), one can't fail to be struck by the arrogance and pomposity of this twit, who appears on any scene like a pasha, accompanied by a huge entourage of underlings nervously setting the stage and dusting the seats for his genteel derriere in advance of his grand entrance. Can you imagine this man on the White House throne? It makes King George II look mighty appealing by comparison.

If indeed Moore has received thousands of letters thanking him for his article and endorsing Clark to run, then the squalid state of the "opposition" here in America is worse than I imagined. I hope you folks prove 'tis ain't so. Please spread this around, especially to folks you know who think Clark is just peachy. If you agree with all of this, let Michael Moore know what you think. I think this is important given the huge audience Moore has

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles8/DVNS_Wesley-Clark.htm
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 08:11 AM
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1. This is one superior writer!
I am sure if you asked him he'd tell you himself! I've never seen someone dismiss so many people as stupid. I get the feeling if you back anyone but their chioce you are stupid.

How difficult it must for the writer of this article to be surrounded by mere mortals all the time!

Julie
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Phelan Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 08:13 AM
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2. I've got to question your judgement
Edited on Thu Feb-05-04 08:14 AM by Phelan
email I've sent to the author:

First of all,
if you don't think any of the major candidates for President this time around have a healthy ego, you are horribly mistaken...

Also saying that the way you succeed in the military to its highest rank is kissing ass, wow then your lack of better judgement scares me.

I'm sure his first in class, 3 M.A.'s, and Rhodes Scholar status all come from kissing ass. And let us not forget how Wes begged the Viet Cong to shoot him so it would look good on his resume.

I've now been around people knowing Wes Clark a fair amount. My boss (an extremely progressive democrat) is a Veteran that served under Clark and absolutely loves him and appreciates everything that he did for his soldiers under his command.

Last knight a woman knocked on my door seeing my yard sign, she worked for KFOR under Clark as a translator (she is a Yugoslavian immigrant) and man, that woman loved Wes. Hardly ever found anyone that felt as strongly about anything in life.

Now if you think ethnic cleansing is a good thing then yes Wes is a war mongerer and you are in the wrong party, but if you happen to think the fact that 1,5milllion ethnic Albanians are neither dead or displaced from their homes now then gives Wes the credit he deserves.

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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 08:17 AM
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3. THAT was one kick-ass rebuttal
Well said, Phelan. (You gotta see if that gal would like to help Wes on the campaign trail.)
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 08:17 AM
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4.  Dissident Voice?
I won't even bother to read this. It's garbage. You're getting desperate.

Go Wes!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 08:18 AM
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5. its the same one that's been posting over and over and over
:(
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 08:28 AM
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6. Look at the Edwards Yitzak Rabin thread on main page
Dissident voice, same author.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 08:29 AM
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7. no thanks
the tit for tat threads don't interest me.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 08:50 AM
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8. *crickets chirping*
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