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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 06:47 PM
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Sacramento Bee says election fraud activists are "NOT KOOKS"!
Sacramento Bee: "ELECTION 2006: LOOMING, DIRE QUESTION OF TRUST," by Peter Schrag (regular columnist), 7/5/06

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"Last month's race in California's 50th Congressional District in San Diego County between Republican Brian Bilbray and Democrat Francine Busby was regarded by many observers as an indicator of whether the Democrats could recapture the House in November.

"But the response to the election may foretell as much or more about the level of confidence Americans will have in the reported results in November as they do about who controls the House in January. If you Google the words Bilbray, Busby and Diebold, you'll get 67,000 hits, most of them casting doubt on whether the reported results -- 78,000 votes (49.5 percent) for Bilbray, 71,000 (45 percent) for Busby, according the San Diego registrar of voters -- could really be trusted. Diebold's electronic voting machines are the X factor.

" The seat, as almost everybody knows, was vacated by Randy "Duke" Cunningham, the high-living felonious congressman who was forced to exchange his seat in one institution for a term in a much less pleasant one.

"The 50th has long been a safely Republican district that Bilbray ought to have won easily. It shouldn't have been a bellwether for anything. But this is not an ordinary year for reasons too numerous to list. Cunningham was just one example of the long list of crooks and other shabby characters -- members of Congress and the administration, staffers, lobbyists and various influence peddlers -- who've disgraced Washington in this new Gilded Age.

"Bilbray almost certainly won the election. But you'll never convince thousands of Californians, not all of them Democrats, most of them not kooks, that the reported results were accurate.

The chief piece of evidence is those electronic Diebold machines, whose reputation as eminently hackable and whose other problems, political and mechanical, have dogged them for years. Combine that with the fact that San Diego election officials allowed poll workers to take the machines home for what one critic called "sleepovers" -- some of them for more than a week -- and you have a pretty good case for suspicion.

(snip)

"...two new reports, one from Common Cause, the other from the nonpartisan Brennan Center in New York, reinforce the special doubts about the security and reliability of electronic voting systems. The most widely used systems, including Diebold's, said the Brennan report, "have significant security and reliability vulnerabilities, which pose a real danger to the integrity of national, state and local elections." Common Cause says 17 states, not including California, are at "high risk" for compromised election results.

(snip)

Given laws recently passed by GOP-controlled legislatures in Ohio and Georgia that effectively discourage or block voters -- minorities especially -- likely to cast ballots for Democrats, the fears about rigged elections are not out of line.

(snip)

The doubters about Bilbray-Busby are probably wrong; the threat to democracy is very real.

http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/columns/schrag/s...

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From Peace Patriot: I've lived in California all my life and I'm very familiar with the Sacramento Bee. I can't tell you how amazed I was to read this column this morning, from one of the Sacto Bee's veteran columnists. The Sacto Bee is a corporate rag, if there ever was one. My stunned brain just kept repeating the phrase: "The election fraud issue has ARRIVED! We've ARRIVED! The most important democracy issue in modern American history has ARRIVED in the corporate news monopoly press!" Then I immediately became suspicious. (Why are they doing this NOW? To suppress the vote?) But I think, rather, that RFK Jr.--in his Rolling Stone article on the stolen election '04--has broken something loose. The taboo is off! The "Iron Curtain" has a major crack in it! Brad Friedman, Bob Koehler and Lou Dobbs all get mentioned--and credited--by name, for crying the alarm. Schrag of course pooh-poohs the idea that any fraud occurred in the Bilbray/Bushby CA-50 (s)election (typical Bee--typical corporate media--why say this? Hm? How do they KNOW?!) And, of course, no mention of WHO OWNS and CONTROLS the "trade secret" vote tabulation code in these machines (major Bush corporate supporters). (That always amazes me--secret vote tabulation by partisans, and this doesn't smack 'em in the eye?!) And the article has not yet been carefully scanned for disinformation (always a danger with the corporate press). Nevertheless, this sure seems like a breakthrough--and a very surprising one. I mean, the Sacto Bee is saying we're "not kooks"! People who want transparent vote counting ARE NOT KOOKS! Think about THAT!

:applause: :bounce: :party: :silly: :freak: :crazy: :wow: "NOT KOOKS!" :wow: :freak: :silly: :patriot: :party: :bounce: :applause:
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 06:53 PM
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1. I cancelled my subscription after the 'sit down and shut up' editorial.
Right after the 2004 debacle. 'Nothing to see here! Move along!' Oh, but NOW -- it's all different.

Actually -- Shrag has always been cool.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 07:18 PM
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2. Why the sudden change in heart from the the paper?
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 07:28 PM
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3. Excellent, very good
SacBee, until recently, has had a fairly sterling reputation for good and fair journalism. Apparently, there are still a few of the good ones left.

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 08:18 PM
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4. SacBee a major force in Nov 2004 media blackout on *co. election
Check out the editorial they printed on Sat. the 6th of Nov., 2004 (sorry no link here) DEMONIZING insulting ridiculing shunning (on behalf of the community, telling the community what to think and talk about -- or rather NOT think and NOT talk about) anyone raising any concerns about irregularities in the election.

Echoing Byronius in #1, this was COMPLETELY irresponsible of the Bee and IMHO, unforgiveable.

I saw the Schragg piece, as surprised as you were. At least it's something :evilfrown:

2.5 years ago the Bee called us traitors to the nation and now we're pleasantly surprised that it's in their (M$M) interests to consider us "not kooks."



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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 09:23 PM
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5. Tin Hat Time
I think remorse is weighing down about the Republican Party and its enablers. Their 2004 victory has turned to ashes in their mouths. These people are not ogres and they have now
begun to realize that they drove American down the wrong road. America is seriously broken,
it has been trashed by small, greedy men, who quite frankly enjoyed every minute of it.
Olympia Snowe has mentioned that her constituents are now questioning why all the Tax Cuts
are for the wealthy and what is being done about the deficit.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 10:07 PM
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7. Time to Wake UP. "Remorse"? Fear of God's Wrath? "Not ogres"?
If you read the editorial-- or had read it at the time-- and remember the atmosphere of DEAFENING SILENCE-- that, as it turns out, was occurring nationwide simultaneously-- you might find that "ogre" applies quite well to the blunt force used by Bee editors. You really have to see it to comprehend how absolutely hateful it was-- even to the point of inciting public ill will against anyone who spoke up.......... as Byronius put it "Sit down and shut up."


"These people are not ogres and they have now begun to realize that they drove American down the wrong road. America is seriously broken, it has been trashed by small, greedy men, who quite frankly enjoyed every minute of it. "

I wonder how far you draw that web of "small, greedy men........" They've been at it for decades, they did not just "now begin to realize that they drove American down the wrong road."

"America is seriously broken" and they knew EXACTLY what they were doing. And on Nov. 6, 2004, the Sacramento Bee knew exactly what it was doing, as did any number of editorial mouthpieces across the nation that week.

Newspapers-- a now-mythical Free-Press-- have a unqiue repsonsiblity to inform the public rather than lull, stupify, misinform and intimidate them to the point that the public becomes complicit with "the Republican Party and its enablers."
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 10:22 PM
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8. I believe the press was coerced into their war on truth
just like the march to war. I understand your bitterness, but I think that we have been duped
by some powerful people who have operated as a "cabal" and it was just not 2 people. I think
that this has been the era of big money. I am just hoping that their craziness is fading.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 10:38 PM
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9. It's hard to admit you've been had
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 10:47 PM
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10. well, I am just saying that I have read where
Rove had letter writing campaigns that targeted major papers around the country, the minute
something was printed that had the tiniest non-right slant, then the word went out and the editor was flooded with hand written individualized letters criticizing them as being too liberal. Soon these papers and Tv stations became so paranoid about appearing too liberal that they began to slant more and more to right thinking that was what the public wanted. Remember many of these Republican big brains started out with direct mail and know PR. Look at all
those people that camped out when Terri Schiavo was dying. I think that these people use
crowds to bully. They said that Gore had people around his house shouting threats after the
2000 election. And remember the Washington staffers that staged a "riot" to halt the recount.

Maybe the Sacramento Bee deserves every bit of your bitter criticism. I don't know but I do know that there have been a lot of dirty tricks which have been used to bully and coerce people in the last 6 years.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 09:26 PM
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6. That is pretty
Amazing! We've come a long way with many many miles to go.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 05:09 PM
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11. I've lived here my entire life, as well.
This coming from the Sac Bee is HUGE!!!! You are absolutely spot-on! This is a MAJOR breakthrough.:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 08:47 PM
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12. To be sure....
This is a very important article. They have, at the very least, taken the blinders off. Still, I find it disturbing that we have to take it as a compliment that it is said of us

"...most of them not kooks,...."

But there is a light a'shining in this and it is an acknowledgment that

"....the threat to democracy is very real."


That is the first step, and one a long time coming. The threat to democracy is very real. So, the challenge that is being raised in San Diego, as has been said many times, is not just about that particular race, it is about ensuring democracy survives.
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 08:54 PM
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13. RFK Jr appeared KOOKY on Charlie Rose
Get out your flamethrowers :nuke:

My wife and I thought he appeared as an 'UFO Kook' on Rose last week. Even Charlie was a bit taken aback by him.
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