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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:04 PM
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Kucinich campaign losing touch with political reality
Hearts And Minds : Larry Durstin : Delusions of Grandeur

Columns / News & Opinion
Date: Feb 04, 2004 - 11:24 AM
Kucinich campaign losing touch with political reality

E-mail Larry Durstin at: ldurstin@freetimes.com

We all know how the game is played when it comes to presidential primaries. Candidates who are hopelessly behind always find a way to rationalize how victory will be snatched from the jaws of defeat and the critics, pundits and pollsters will be proved both wrong and downright foolish.

And that's all well and good and is certainly as American as both cherry pie and violence. A nod and a wink goes a long way in politics, and the crusading longshot truly does deserve both encouragement and admiration — up to a point, that is, and Dennis Kucinich is coming perilously close to careening through that point and into The Twilight Zone.

Watching Kucinich say with what appears to be a straight face that his strategy is to stay in the race until the Boston convention in July when the party, hopelessly split and unable to settle on a nominee, miraculously turns to him as its standard bearer, is as depressing as being subjected to the simultaneous re-emergence of both Donald Trump and Dennis Miller into prime-time television programming

First of all, in the event of a brokered convention — which will not happen, of course — only an MIT mathematician could calculate the number of ballots that would have to be taken before Kucinich's name would even be mentioned, let alone be voted on and actually nominated. It's one thing to say that should you not perform well in the primaries, you want your ideas to carry on and resonate with the party and even be part of the platform, but to concoct the kind of preposterous scenario Kucinich and his followers are putting forth is an insult to voters' intelligence.

more: http://www.freetimes.com/print.php?sid=995



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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:08 PM
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1. What did you expect? Durstin backs Clark
Maybe you should look for an article by somebody who's not a stooge for the DLC.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:10 PM
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2. He doesn't seem too conservative
Senator Joe Lieberman's characterization of his fifth-place finish in New Hampshire as a “tie for third” was deservedly lampooned by late-night comics. But let's be honest about Lieberman. He's been a decent legislator throughout most of his career, but the only reason he's in the national spotlight is that he very publicly rebuked Bill Clinton during the 1998 impeachment witch hunt, and Al Gore, looking to distance himself from Clinton, chose Lieberman as a running mate to emphasize his independence from the two-term president. Though this questionable strategy failed, resulting in the election of Bush, Lieberman still chose to bring his neocon-like hawkishness and tiresome moralizing to this campaign with predictably disastrous results.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:16 PM
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4. I think you've mischaracterized Gore's 2000 "loss"
I don't think the selection of Lieberman as VP by Gore to "emphasize his independence" was what cost Gore the election. I think it was a lot of crooked actions by the Republicans that put Bush in the WH.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:12 PM
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3. I doubt the Clark camp wants to slam Kucinich.
I refuse to believe this article is representative of Clark.
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:18 PM
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5. Kucinich has been buried so many times by some DU-ers
that he should be buried in China by now.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:26 PM
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8. well maybe when CAFTA
is signed...Dennis will remerge in China after •some• have so foolishly buried him so deep.
:evilgrin:


Stupid article...typical of what DK supporters have had to endure the past year...hey if they ignore him all the time then who is gonna read that article,right?
:shrug:

Peace
DR
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:24 PM
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6. So he expects him to admit he doesn't have a chance?
That'll make him more credible? Less insulting to his supporters?
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:25 PM
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7. When was it ever in touch with political reality?
NT
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:29 PM
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9. maybe it's in touch with something bigger
more fundamental, more honest, and more important than "political" reality.

His lack of success only serves how far we yet have to go as a nation--and how far we may have to fall to get there.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:29 PM
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10. and you,dolstein, are an expert because...??
Edited on Wed Feb-04-04 07:31 PM by Desertrose
..........you post on a message board, right.
:eyes:

edited to add -great point green arrow...it does concern me too, how far we may have to fall....


Peace
DR
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 08:12 PM
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11. just can't find the right words
Edited on Wed Feb-04-04 08:13 PM by cosmicdot
:eyes:

so, I'll just use a smiley

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