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madville Donating Member (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:56 PM
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2010 Census/US House of Representatives - Democratic areas losing seats
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 02:58 PM by madville
Someone was telling me about this the other day and I was hoping someone could shed a little more light on it. States like MA, NY, CA, etc could potentially lose House seats due to small, stagnant or even possible negative population growth numbers. States like FL, TX, GA, SC, NC, AZ, NV, ID, and UT have seen explosive growth in population, a good portion from people fleeing the more densely populated areas in search of affordable housing and new work opportunities.

They had read that FL and TX were expected to pick up 3 extra seats each, AZ/NV/UT were expected to get one more each, and MA, NY, PA, and OH were projected to lose one or two each. The thought of FL, TX, AZ, NV, UT, etc taking multiple seats from MA, NY,etc for example doesn't sound very good on paper. I guess alot would depend on how the states district their new seats.
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WestHoustonDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:59 PM
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1. Don't assume the growth in population is Republican, especially
in Texas. We will be majority Hispanic by 2010, and with the Republican platform on immigration, those may very well be Democratic voters.
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MrTriumph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:07 PM
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6. You are making an assumption
You are making an assumption if you are saying Hispanics who are American citizens favor Bush's open border policy and oppose closing the borders as House Republicans favor.

When the issue of illegal immigration comes up for discussion on the DU it often splits any number of ways. I suspect (and I could be proved wrong) that Hispanics also have varying opinions about illegal immigration.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:00 PM
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2. I haven't seen the results of the 2010 census yet
Can anyone post a link?
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:03 PM
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3. Here you go...
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madville Donating Member (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:13 PM
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7. actually it is census.gov
Census.gov has the 2000-2005 estimates available. It shows how states like FL, TX, and GA have had estimated population growth from 9.8%-11.3% while MA is sitting at 0.8% and NY is at 1.5%. The trend is there, let's just hope these population gains in these currently Rethug areas are Democrats increasing their numbers.
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:03 PM
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4. Another argument for blue state seccession...
Add this to the fact that the fundies reproduce like viruses and the future does not look bright for freedome continuing to exist in these United States.

I have always thought that the US is just too big to effectively function as a single, political unit. The larger the entity, the more bureaucracy is created to run it and the further the population is removed from the process.

Let the pukes have the brain-dead states and see how well they function without our assets and tax dollars.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:05 PM
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5. It is true, many NE states are losing population and the South is
gaining, but think about that! ust because Dems move to the South, it doesn't mean they suddenly become Pubs!!!!

My guess is that most of those folks move for job reasons, and that would mean to larger populated cities and surrounding suburbs. That should help change the South to blue, don't ya think? Surely if there are enough yankees that's what would happen!

I should know, I'm a Yankee Dem who moved in 1987 to SC, 92 to TX, and in 2000 to GA. I've never voted for a Pub in my life, and all those years in the South didn't change me!
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:17 PM
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8. You may have a point there...Colorado is a good example!
Before, Colorado was a solid Republican state, but not only have they voted a Democratic candidate as Senator, but a man with Latino roots to boot!

And what about West Virginia? TWICE, a Democratic governor chosen?? Republican Senator George Allen just 6 points ahead of his Democratic challenger?

Things are a changin', and it's clear the American people choose the Democratic agenda rather than the Republican, even in states where it was always a "sure thing" for the GOP.
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:18 PM
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9. BUt did you change the south?
I would argue that it si not possible to change the political balance enough to turn a red state blue. First, the margin is too great. Second, for every Democrat leaving a blue state for economic reasons, you probably have a puke doing the same. Plus, throw in the cons who want to avoid "them damn libruls" and I would really be surprised to see any significant change.

Southerners are not going to go back to supporting Democrats, now that the pukes are so clearly the party of racism.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 04:42 PM
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10. I don't have any info to back this up, but I haven't heard of ANY
businesses moving from the South to the North.

I think you're right about not changing the ideas of the southerners. Part of it is racism, and part of it is the pretend "Baptist ideology" that claim all Dems are PRO ABORTION! But when you change the makeup of the people who live in an area from the locally born to what they call the damn yankees", the vote results change! You're always, or for at least a very long time, going to have the rural Georgians voting for the Confederate flag and segregation, but the biggest population is in Alanta, and the few other larger cities we have.

I think the biggest problem the Dems have is getting people off their lazy a**es and to the polls! Some don't bother because they think it doesn't matter, some don't because they claim they don't have time, and some just don't care, but if we could get MOST of the Dems to care enough to at least request a damn absentee ballot and USE IT, we'd WIN!
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