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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 10:12 AM
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First, they came for the New York Times...
..and nobody said anything. Next they went after CBS, and nobody said anything. Then they came for FOX News and there was nobody left.

Listening to FOX snooze this morning, Brit Hume and Bill Kristol were the latest to attack the NY Times. Kristol called for criminal investigation. Hume did not think there was much that could be done.

This should be frightening to every reporter in America. Dick Cheney is leading the charge. The press should not report on anything that might hinder them in their almighty and righteous battle against "terrorism". No one should question their motives or their tactics. The AMerican press should take a long hard look in the mirror and recognize what is happening to our nation. If we lose our press, we have lost everything. The right-wing believes that FOX News is all they need. What will they have when FOX is gone also?
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 10:19 AM
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1. What will they have? Only themselves to blame.
Recommended. This is a serious threat to reporters, and they ought to be frightened. Interesting times (no pun).
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Pierzin Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 10:22 AM
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2. the NYT is a threat to the Cheney-Bush Cabal??? OMG!!!
i would be rolling on the floor laughing except for the fact that I beleive you!
If They are coming after a right wing apologist paper like the times, i must then conclude they intend to shut down The Nation and Air America completely and send all of their employees to the gulag!
Gore Vidal, Mark Crispin Miller and Greg Palast & every other progressive all need to high tail to Canada or Italy for Asylum.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 01:21 PM
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11. God I'm sick of that
idiotic party line. The NYT is a lot of things, but it is not a right wing apologist paper. It still has some of the best reporting anywhere. John Burns, Dexter Filkins, Frank Rich, Paul Krugman, Bob Herbert, Eric Lichblau, Michael Gordon, and others.

The Times can be sloppy and stupid and craven, but it's hardly a mouthpiece for the RW.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 01:30 PM
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12. Unfortunately, it is where it counts.
Edited on Sun Jun-25-06 01:31 PM by dailykoff
When this admin needs cover for some outrageous crime, they can count on the Times to help them catapult the propadanda.

And who knows how many high crimes they're sitting on? I can name one but we're not supposed to mention it in this forum.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 01:42 PM
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13. Make an accusation
such as the Times provides cover for the crimes of bushco without any evidence to back it up? That's just a right wing tactic. And if you're referring to 9/11, I've seen nothing that provides any real evidence that bushco committed it. I even watched that piece of shit "Loose Change". Anyway, I guess you consider thw owners of DU as apologists for bushco considering their policy on 9/11 conspiracies.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 01:48 PM
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14. NSA wiretapping, WMD, gross election fraud to name a few others.
And then there's the occupation of Iraq.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 10:42 AM
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3. Recommended NT
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 12:12 PM
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4. Can Dick Cheney just do and say anything without consequences?
After watching the scary Frontline program recently, I fear that this man has complete control and whatever he wants, he gets. I'm still not certain of his main reason for wanting to invade Iraq?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 12:34 PM
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7. He does whatever he wants, yet they want us to believe
that he doesn't have nearly enough influence to have set energy policy or to have awarded contracts to Haliburton and KBR
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 12:22 PM
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5. I wonder what they say behind the doors at the NYTimes ??
Are they fearful? They know this Administration is not above lying - they lied to the NYTimes about the NSA story, which the Times held for a year, even thru an election cycle. They would be foolish to trust this Administration.

However, with this latest broadside from Cheney and the right-wingers, they must feel more threatened than anytime in their history? These people are calling for criminal prosecution! These must be very difficult times for the Times?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 12:29 PM
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6. One wonders how the United States V. Press Publishing would go today
with a Supreme Court stacked by Bush. This was the landmark case that resulted in Pulitzer leaving an endowment to reward the free press for investigative work well done.
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Red Knight Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 12:47 PM
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8. I saw that
They were ranting about undermining the "war" again or some such nonsense.

To his credit, the one panelist asked, "How long does this "war" last?"

These rightwingers were calling in C-SPAN this morning, grateful the government is snooping to protect them from the evil terrorists and telling the Times reporter he should be in jail.

How much liberty will these people willingly surrender to protect their so-called "freedom?" Are cameras in the bedroom going too far? Probably not--for them.

There might be a terrorist under the bed. Not only would they not object, but they'd feel we have no need to even know about the cameras.

The country(at least part of it) is mentally unstable.
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ariellyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 12:55 PM
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9. "IF we lose our press"? It IS lost. nt
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 01:16 PM
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10. For those who don't recognize the historical reference in the OP:


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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 06:18 PM
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15. They didn't come...the Times leaped into their arms.
And so did the rest of the press. What makes you think the current crop of people writing for newspapers or TV news did so out of a love for "truth" or "journalistic values?"

They joined up because they wanted fame and money. They get famous by having "access" to the Republicans. They get money by spotlighting what the Republicans want spotlighted.f

And the New York Whore Times has been in the forefront of the whole movement. Even worse, they aren't even propagating their stuff for free on the Web any more; they are now charging to read their rag on your computer screen. So you, yourself, are paying to read Bush and Rove's propaganda. Bet that makes you feel all warm and cozy about "freedom of the press," doesn't it?
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 06:27 PM
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16. You shouldn't generalize reporters. Some are bad, but most do it
because they do love the truth. Remember the millions of phone lines tapped? Who broke that story?
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 08:34 PM
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17. I think we lost our press a long time ago.
We should hold a funeral for journalism.
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