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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:42 PM
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Plame outing intended to stop CIA catching SOPS planting WMD in Iraq?
Since the news is all about how this was a personal attack on Wilson, we know that's all psyops. So the question remains, why was Plame outed at that particular time? Given she was working covertly on WMD in the middle east, as we are told and have no reason to doubt, and that her entire organization was busted and therefore all covert operatives working with and for her were compromised, some even killed, the result was that the entire operation must have halted dead in its tracks.

Why would Cheney want that to happen unless he had reason to want WMDs to be in Iraq and not be discovered planting them?

We know there were none there before the war because the inspectors were there and Saddam was cooperating with them. And we know Cheney and the rest of the junta were all over TV about how certain they were that the WMD would be found in Iraq. How could they be so sure in the face of all the intelligence and weapons inspectors reports to the contrary? That they were having WMD shipped in is the most obvious conclusion to draw. And they wouldn't want that mission compromised by Plame's work, would they?

Why isn't anyone pursuing this very important story?



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Master Mahon Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:47 PM
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1. Why isn't anyone pursuing this very important story?
because there are far more important stories out there.
A pretty blonde girl missing from Spring break.
A pretty blonde bride running out on her marriage.
Gays destroying the fabric of marital bliss.
A woman brain dead for 15 years in florida.
You get the idea!!
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:54 PM
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3. Yeah, and let's not forget the empty tuna cans from almost two decades ago
They're full of something fishy, that's for sure....

:evilgrin:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:48 PM
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2. I have voiced exactly this suspicion a few times myself.
But then everybody knows about me & my aluminophilia.
Nice to see someone else sharing the notion.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:56 PM
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4. goggle up NELDA ROGERS!!
Edited on Thu Jun-22-06 01:59 PM by flyarm
http://www.americanpolitics.com/20040420Baker.html

http://tbrnews.org/Archives/a510.htm

CIA and DOD Attempted To Plant WMD In Iraq June 20, 2003

Pentagon Whistleblower Reveals CIA/ DoD Fiascos





SNIP:

In a world exclusive, Al Martin Raw.com has published a news story about a Department of Defense whistleblower who has revealed that a US covert operations team had planted “Weapons of Mass Destruction” (WMDs) in Iraq – then “lost” them when the team was killed by so-called “friendly fire.”

The Pentagon whistleblower, Nelda Rogers, is a 28-year veteran debriefer for the Defense Department. She has become so concerned for her safety that she decided to tell the story about this latest CIA-military fiasco in Iraq.


SNIP:

“According to Ms. Rogers, there was a covert military operation that took place both preceding and during the hostilities in Iraq,” reports Al Martin Raw.com, an online subscriber-based news/analysis service which provides “Political, Economic and Financial Intelligence.”



SNIP:


Ms. Rogers reports that this particular covert operation team was manned by ex-military personnel and that “the unit was paid through the Department of Agriculture in order to hide it, which is also very commonplace.”


FLY

P.S....IHAD THIS IN MY FILES..I SENT TO LARRY JOHNSON A LONG TIME AGO, AS WELL AS TO FITGERALDS OFFICE!
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 02:00 PM
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5. Sure looks like a CIA "innoculation"
At least we know for sure that the attack on Plame was real.

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 02:11 PM
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6. Well, this just sounds like...
another crazy conspiracy theory and we all know they don't exist....:sarcasm:
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 02:12 PM
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7. After watching "The Dark Side" the other night, and
seeing in such a concrete fashion that Cheney meant to wipe out the CIA's power and consolidate all intelligence gathering under his offices, does anyone here think that it has to be him who "outed" Plame to further erode the power of the intelligence community (ie, the CIA)and keep it scrambling so that there would be time while they were defending her for his intelligence aparatus to be fully actualized and ready to replace the CIA by the time the scandal was over?

I mean, her unveiling killed two birds with one stone... it disenabled a key CIA operation and exposed all the agents there and all their contacts to mortal retribution, and by doing that, weakened the trust people would have in giving information to the CIA for fear of being exposed in the same way, so........ they would use Cheny's back-door operation to get their information heard.

Very crafty and cynical. Sounds like something he'd do... doesn't it?

TC
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 02:47 PM
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8. A one word answer to your question: NO
Why would the CIA out one of their own? Why would the CIA be the ones planting WMD in Iraq. Think back and you'll find the CIA warned *against* going into Iraq. Iraq was Bushco's hard on, not the CIA's. They were on opposite sides on that issue.

Nope, the reason she was outed was to cover for the years of arms sales by Bushco's owners. Don't ever forget: Bushco is a wholly owned subsidiary or a larger and more powerful force. They're just hired hands. Plame was a two-fer. They outted her and destroyed the whole Brewster-Jennings operation *and* they got to fuck with our elections and create a real distraction. It may have also been a three-fer ..... they got to discredit the CIA - or at least divert them - as they built their own parallel group. Remember, the CIA was largely doing its job back then. Goss was in charge, but he was getting his clocked cleaned by the pros until he Night of the Long Knives. By then, the deed was done.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 03:22 PM
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10. Special ops people would be the ones planting WMD in Iraq
FYI, that's The Pentagon. Cheney is not the CIA, so the CIA did not out one of their own. I agree on the parallel group theory because we know Cheney wasn't listening to the CIA, but cherry picking from his own group of "experts" (that included Chalabi).

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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 02:50 PM
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9. It's struck me from the beginning
that saying "his wife recommended him for the trip" is kind of a lame way to discredit someone. Surely their smear machine could come up with something better than that. So I've always thought that there was some other reason for it, such as destroying the CIA network that could discredit their WMD claims. I've considered your theory as a lesser possibility but definitely a possibility.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 03:43 PM
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11. the Motive for outing Plame has always been a question
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