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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:00 PM
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AntiClinton museum guy behind antiKerry "veteran" website.
Told you guys those sites pretending to be veterans were bogus GOP operative sites.

Some of you may recognize LeBoutillier as the guy behind the antiClinton museum in Little Rock.


A heroic Veteran and his Critics
Lionel Van Deerlin February 4, 2004 San Diego Union Tribune...

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...The hunger of some for partisan conquest seems to override prior standards of decency. In Georgia, just two years ago, Army Capt. Max Cleland, whom the Vietnam War had left a triple amputee, was defeated for re-election to the U.S. Senate – amid accusations that he lacked patriotism.
In their mailers and 30-second TV spots, opposition hit artists had been careful not to show a body without legs to walk on – stark evidence of Sen. Cleland's devotion to country.

If partisans could get away with that outrage – well, why not try again? And thus it may be that Sen. John Kerry has become a target in this new wave of "anything goes" politics.
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.... Wesley Pruden, editor of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon's creation, The Washington Times, greeted Kerry's Iowa breakthrough with a column, "Looking for holes in the bloody shirt." His piece dismisses the severity of Kerry's war wounds – the first from a bullet in the arm, the second by shrapnel in his left thigh, the third caused when a mine detonated under Kerry's patrol boat, sending fragments into his body. The lieutenant was back in action two days later. With an almost Patton-like contempt for casualties, Editor Pruden next faults Kerry's willingness to accept stateside duty under a Navy rule entitling any who are thrice wounded to take leave from a combat zone.
Armchair warriors can be very exacting.
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The current spate of abuse correlates suspiciously with Kerry's rise in the polls. I am reluctant to think Republican campaign consultants have anything to do with the appearance in January of a new Internet site, "Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry." John LeBoutillier, a one-term congressman (and non-vet) whose right-wing antics caused him to blow a safe seat on New York's Long Island, finds Kerry complicit in "a disgraceful cover-up of the truth about our abandoned men" in the ranks of POWs and missing in action.
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Can such tactics mark the end-all in hypocrisy? Kerry's candidacy takes aim at an administration which many think is honeycombed with "chicken hawks."
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--Van Deerlin represented a San Diego County district in Congress for 18 years.----

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/wed/opinion/news_mz1e4deerlin.html
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:05 PM
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1. is this the idiot ?
i think this was the guy i saw on cspan promoting the anticlinton museum. he is a total idiot. just listen to him, he is an idiot. not sure how anyone can take him seriously once you listen to him. so i hope he actually comes out in public to promote this crap as it will turn people off to him and what he does.
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EllieDem Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:06 PM
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2. Believe it or not
that guy was also vehemently anti Iraq war. Go figure
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:09 PM
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3. he did more anti clinton(and now anti kerry) than pro bush
he was critical of bush hiding his records and a few other things when some callers called in to talk how bush is a huge mess. so he wasn't really some pro bush type like sean hannity. but he still sounds like an idiot so the more people actually hear him the more it will help kerry and clinton.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:31 PM
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10. Maybe he's from the Pat Buchanan wing of the Repuke Party
:shrug:
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:11 PM
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4. That's him - I got through that morning
to C-Span and got in some good info. Don't think his anti-Clinton library got off the ground even though he tried to pretend it did - it was actually defunct at that time I think but he kept going on and on and on.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:04 PM
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6. I heard that show.
I was hopping mad but never got through.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:12 PM
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5. "John Kerry comes about as close as we get to a genuine war hero"
Mr.Van Deerlin, go to the head of the class.
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D G Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:13 PM
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7. Gee, does Pruden post on DU?
Reading that bit about "Looking for holes in the bloody shirt" reminded me of a thread here the other day, when someone compared Kerry's war wounds to paper cuts. :wtf:

Van Deerlin's got the comeback for that:
Armchair warriors can be very exacting.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:23 PM
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8. Thanks for posting this blm
:-)
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:30 PM
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9. This is why I'm not impressed with all of the talk
that the GOP is gonna open up on John Kerry. Not that they won't, but their attacks are worn out, rejected wedges. Most folks know the lines that divide conservatives and Democrats and they tug on them whenever they want to fire up their base. But the wedges are well known by our side, and our arguments are honed and ready.

In the end, all that will likely happen is that we will split as a country along these lines in the election. The one thing we have going for us is that Bush has betrayed so many of his more right-wing supporters with policies and actions that more resemble the ideological activism that most freeps reject instead of acting with the old-fashioned conservative pragmatism that used to define the republican party's faithful.

Their party will implode as their figurehead spins and scrambles to appeal to an electorate he must have thought was right behind him in his manufactured mandate to divide and conquer. In the end he will be reduced to half-hearted promises to "trust the people" he has so thoroughly betrayed.

ABB!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 01:37 AM
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11. kick for an informed DU community.
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