Who's got John Kerry's back? Who's got John Murtha's back?

[Stinky The Clown]

Both these fine men have been excoriated as weak, wimpy, appeasing, wishywashy, sissy, cowardly, and many other very 'special' ad hominum attacks for their stance on Iraq.

Who in the Beltway crowd has been standing and speaking LOUD and CLEAR in support of them? What pols? What pundits?

This shit of the chickenhawks attacking our proven brave defenders has to stop. NOW.

[rox63]

1. A bunch of DUers have their back

Like me and my pals in the DU John Kerry Forum. I wish more people in DC would get behind these brave and principled men.

K&R!

[LeFleur1]

3. Rove

Isn't it ironic that this mean spirited jerk jiggled his hulk under a table during the Viet Nam war and now has the audacity to stand before a microphone and criticize those who gave their bodies for our country?

What kind of mind blank citizen could give this airhead any credibility at all?

It is time for Democrats to stand up to such known cowards who talk shit.

[wisteria]

4. Chicken hawks or arm chair warriors- either one fits. ! n/t

[wisteria]

2. I agree. Murtha and Kerry are right and others with vested interests

in Iraq and those afraid of any Republican shadows just remain silent while this atrocity continues and this administration gets away with using unproven talking points as a game plan. I would suggest that people contact our silent Dem's and let them know we need to stand for something and we need to take a stand. Doing nothing indicates they support this administration and this war.

[ProSense]

5. Withdrawal is the way to go! n/t

[jillan]

6. Kerry's statement on Rove

a statement from Kerry’s chief spokesperson, David Wade:


“The closest Karl Rove ever came to combat was these last months spent worrying his cellmates might rough him up in prison. This porcine political operative can't cut and run from the truth any longer. When it came to Iraq, this Administration chose to cut and run from sound intelligence and good diplomacy, cut and run from the best military advice, cut and run from their responsibility to give our troops body armor, and in November, Americans will cut and run from this Republican Congress.” (originally posted by DUer politicasista@http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=273x91214


And yes - I have their backs!

[_dynamicdems]

7. The biggest fattest chickenhawk was squarking the loudest of all.

You're right. We need the Dem leaders to speak out against this. We can't just accept Repug slander as the status quo.

[Joey Liberal]

8. WE stand up for Kerry and Murtha! n/t

[AndyTiedye]

9. Noone

They are all being blackmailed and/or threatened with swiftboating themselves.

Almost any of them could be run out of office by a concerted effort of the GOP attack dogs and their minions in the media.

[Stinky The Clown]

14. I'm not sure that's true ... but it could be, I suppose .. but you know...

... even during the 04 cycle when Swiftboat One was floating around, where were the Dems and the Dem punditry? I don't recall a hell of a lot of support for Kerry back then, either.

Message to Dems: Party Loyalty and Party Unity might be a *good* thing.

[Patchuli]

10. I just phoned and wrote my senators

and representatives. I'm sick of them standing by quietly while Rove shoots off his mouth.

I told them, start standing up for this party or GO AWAY!

[emulatorloo]

11. Good Point - I will do the same. . . .EOM

[HardWorkingDem]

12. Something to consider.....

When Rove makes comments such as the one recently reported, it only causes attention to be placed on him, rather than where it needs to be. This sort of stuff is what that turd is great at: poke some festering and painful sore and distract the attention from where it needs to be.

[Clark2008]

13. Wesley Clark does!

Called Bill O'Lielly out on it the other day, too (this was the interview that caused the shitstorm about O'Lielly alleging American troops killed Nazi's in Malmedy).

The entire interivew, however, was mostly about Clark defending Murtha's position.

[Stinky The Clown]

15. Seems to me that Cleland and Clark were the only steadfast

surrogates for Kerry during the campaign. I'm sure there were others, but not like those two guys did it. Glad to hear its continuing.

Where are all the other guys? Biden gets loads of face time, but I don't hear too much about him mentioning Kerry or Murtha, except perpiherally .... and never to defend the *man* John Kerry and the *man* John Murtha.

As I said above .... this shit HAS to end. I don't give a good gawddam what any one person thinks of any other one person. This is about standing up for what's just plain right.

Message to Dems: If you don't stand up for what's right, just what the fuck DO you stand for?

(And no .... I'm particularly a Kerry or a Murtha supporter. But this is just so wrong on s many levels.)

Sorry to take over this reply you made to my thread. I mean no disrespect to Clark.

[karynnj]

16. As bad as Biden was in the campaign,

where he always seemed to be saying that Kerry should have done what he did, he is a million times worse now that he is running. Note to Biden: Kerry's plan is a comprehensive, well thought out plan; your comments are a mess and NOT a plan:
From a JK group Post - to make matters worse Biden said this on Fox News:




"I'm glad. Will you oppose what Senators Kerry and Reid and Levin and Feinstein are apparently putting together and will propose Wednesday?

BIDEN: I don't know. I was part of the group with Levin, my staff and his are meeting. To the best of my knowledge, Reid is not proposing a hard date to leave. I believe Sen. Kerry announced in his speech Tuesday he wanted all the troops out by the end of this year. I understand his frustration, but I don't think that's a plan.

What my hope is, that we lay out a consensus amendment among Democrats saying: Look, we have to do, we find the following three things have to be dealt with, boom, boom, boom, and if we do that, then give the military 18 months to plan a rational exit based upon leaving something stable behind."

[Stinky The Clown]

17. Biden has his old "I" problem back ... worse than ever

Listen to that gasbag anytime he speaks ... I I I I Me Me Me Me My My My My .......

Us and We seem to no longer be operative words in his vocabulary.

[karynnj]

18. Hey, Biden can use the Let it Be Album song - I me mine

as his song. He really is a gasbag - He was a waste of a person at the Alito hearing with his completely irrelevant monologue about himself at the Alito hearing. I hate the dismissive tone he seems to have about Kerry.
Lyrics:

All thru' the day I me mine, I me mine, I me mine.
All thru' the night I me mine, I me mine, I me mine.
Now they're frightened of leaving it
Ev'ryone's weaving it,
Coming on strong all the time,
All thru' the day I me mine.

I-I-me-me mine, I-I-me-me mine,
I-I-me-me mine, I-I-me-me mine.

All I can hear I me mine, I me mine, I me mine.
Even those tears I me mine, I me mine, I me mine.
No-one's frightened of playing it
Ev'ryone's saying it,
Flowing more freely than wine,
All thru' the day I me mine.

I-I-me-me mine, I-I-me-me mine,
I-I-me-me mine, I-I-me-me mine.

All I can hear I me mine, I me mine, I me mine.
Even those tears I me mine, I me mine, I me mine.
No-one's frightened of playing it
Ev'ryone's saying it,
Flowing more freely than wine,
All thru' your life I me mine

[blm]

19. Cleland and Clark were complete stalwarts.

One barely known in politics, and the other in a wheelchair, and they were pretty much alone as Dem spokespeople. Elected and big name Dems stayed away for the most part from countering Giuliani, McCain and Dole on the broadcast shows.

Cleland and Clark showed up as often as possible.

[militaryWife]

20. One or both of them needs to look straight into the camera

during an interview and say directly to the people, especially the Iraq vets- "I want everyone to note, especially you on the front lines, exactly what Republicans mean when they say the 'Support the Troops'. I served, they/he/she/it (in the case of Coulter) did not. They do NOT honor service to our country, their actions prove it over and over again. You think you are immune because you are serving now, but you are not. Pay attention, be vigilant." Make it a military issue and personal, very, very personal.