War is primitive

[wizdum]

War is primitive

War is primitive. Progress is external and culture internal. War is the manifestation of a social psyche that is unable to connect the two. This state of affairs is becoming the curse of humanity.

Peace is the way to liberation. Krishna, Christ and Allah abide only in a heart devoid of conflict. More than the destruction wrought on the outside, the wounds inflicted on people’s emotional psyche will linger for generations together. Providing food, housing and medical treatment is only a temporary solution for those suffering from the atrocities of war. It may not heal those wounds in the human mind caused by conflict. This applies equally to the warring sides as well as to the general populace.

Today, voices in protest against the on-going war are rising all around the world. The voice of prayer should rise along with the voices of protest. May that chorus of voices of prayer soothe the hearts of all. May there be peace and contentment everywhere, in everyone, always.

~ Ammachi


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[Kutjara]

1. Amen!

[movonne]

2. That is why the repugs like war...their mind set is primitive.

[Lib Grrrrl]

8. Hey!

Don't give the Neanderthals a bad rap!! Even THEY were more intelligent than the average Republican! Think about it...against all odds, and with none of the modern conveniences, and homes, and heat that we now have, Neanderthals managed to survive, adapt, and evolve. Republicans will NEVER evolve. This is why they don't believe in evolution, incidentally.

[wizdum]

11. Yes, that is why the repubs wage war. They do not truly understand...

...nor practice the spiritual teaching they claim to uphold in the outside world. Therein lies the disconnect.

[Joe for Clark]

3. You know the problem is, it is necessary sometimes -

rarely - but sometimes.

The problem is being able to tell the difference - when is it necessary?

It was necessary in 1940 and 1941 - If we didn't go and win - I think there was a new dark age coming for us. So it had to happen. And those kids were so brave in 1941,42,43,44 and 45.

There is little justification for it short of those consequences. NO justification.

Joe

[wizdum]

12. You are also correct in your observation...

...Sometimes war is inevitable or even necessary to defend righteous principles. It is not always possible for those of high ideals to avoid armed conflict. And to back down from fighting for a noble cause brings dishonor. During those times the armies must meet on the battlefield, and the army would not be doing its duty if it did not defend its country in certain situations. The entire Bhagavad Gita ( which is the second bestselling book in the world after the bible) is all about that. However, wars waged for greed or to secure territory are not righteous.

[Joe for Clark]

13. Good for you!!

Yep - makes this the most immoral war I have ever read about.

It is that problem with reconcilling the inevitable with the moral.

The bastard tries to "mix it up". Some of our parents liberated some of those camps in 45 - we KNOW what moral means.

Your point is dead on.

Joe

[Tom Rinaldo]

4. The only thing worse than supporting War...

...is not defending innocent people against naked aggression. And the latter is the only reason why I am not a pacifist.

[Joe for Clark]

5. I am with you -

It really is the only thing important enough to do that most horrifying act.

Joe

[RethugAssKicker]

6. If all leaders were required to practice Vipassna

there certainly wouldn't be any wars.

There needs to be an entire social revolution.
However, this will not happen without total destruction first (IMO) !

[aikoaiko]

7. What does "Progress is external and culture internal." mean?

Since:
War is the manifestation of a social psyche that is unable to connect the two.

:shrug:

[Joe for Clark]

9. NO guy

War is the result of one parties inability to recognize that difference.

You know, a psychopath has to start it.

Joe

[wizdum]

10. Good question. I have provided an answer for you to consider.

What does "Progress is external and culture internal." mean?

Since:
War is the manifestation of a social psyche that is unable to connect the two.

In other words you develop socially acceptable moral standards and behaviors internally and exercise external discipline in order to manifest them outwardly. So their development takes place inside one's heart between God, oneself, and one's conscience and then that demeanor is transferred or practiced in the outside world. So in essence, we transfer our "inner state" to the outside world. Those that are unable to develop meaningful cultural mores are unable to make external progress and therefore the two aspects that make harmony possible are not connecting. Here is an example;

dubya says he is a Christian, then lobs bombs on his neighbor. Do you see the disconnect there? He has NOT developed moral standards internally, inside his heart, because he has failed to imbibe the true meaning of Christ's teachings. Because of that he fails to develop a sense of social conscience, which then manifests itself as a lack of spiritual discipline. As a result, he ends up bombing, maiming and killing his fellow man. There is a real disconnect there.

[aikoaiko]

14. ok, thanks. nt