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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:22 PM
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My run-in with a Fundy today
This morning my wife and I had to run my daughter down to the southern part of the state for her first summer camp. On the way back I happened to notice a sign on the road that said "New Adult Superstore - Next Exit." So I asked the wife if she wanted to stop and see what they had and she said sure, she's an adventurous gal, so I pulled off the exit.

When we got across the interstate their was a group of guys setup in front of the entrance of the store with cameras and were taking pictures of people entering and leaving the place. The had big signs setup saying that truck drivers pictures would be taken and that their company would be notified that they had stopped here. I said to myself that I don't care what these red-necks are doing but it seriously aggravated my wife as we passed through their line and went into the store.

But the more I thought about it the more it aggravated me and of course that was what everyone in the store was talking about. The clerk said they didn't want the store to be their and they, the owners, had put up the wood fence yesterday but these yahoos were climbing up on ladders to take pictures of people.

As we left the store one of them had a camera pointed at us and it dawned on me what they were actually doing, so I thought I would have a chat with them on the way out. When I got to the entrance I rolled my window down and one of them had a movie camera on me so I said to him, "Hey, how you all doing today." He said, "Great," so I asked him, "Don't you boys have jobs or family's or something that you should be taking care of today," and he replies, "that's what he is doing, taking care of his family." "How are you taking care of your family being out here," I asked. He says, " Did I know that rape and child molestation goes up 40% in locations where porn stores go into?" I told him that those figures are B.S. He says," Oh, yeah, that's what the police reports say and he should know because he works for the victims advocates department or something" I reply, "I don't care whose figures they are they are B.S. and people have been trying to sell that BS for over 40 years with no success."

I then went on to tell he that," what you guys are doing out here is trying to intimidated people to get your way, and that my friend is un-American." I hit the power window and drove off. I could hear him shouting my license plate number to one of the other guys, like that was going to bother me or something, and thought to myself how pathetic.

But as I thought about it while I was driving away, that is what fundies are about, intimidating people to get their way and there comes a time, when reason has failed, that we have to get up in their face and let them know that isn't going to work. It is no different than dealing with the schoolyard bully. Unfortunately, we are getting to a point in this country that we all are going to have to be willing to stand up to them and be willing to do whatever it takes to stop the spread of their cancer in this country and let them know we will not be intimidated out of our freedoms.

FFC
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:27 PM
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1. Yep. Bullies at the polling place, bullies in the statehouse,
bullies in the marketplace (business), bullies in the parks (ecology)...

And we all learned what happens when you appease bullies back in 1938 - didn't we?
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:29 PM
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3. That was the thought that crossed my mind as I drove away. N/T
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:29 PM
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2. nice going, calling him on his crappy crap game.
big bully. you took it to him. way to go.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:30 PM
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4. Hilton is the biggest seller of porn. I bet he doesn't know that.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:31 PM
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5. Go back with your camera, take pictures, and post them here.
Don't forget to get their license plates.

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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:32 PM
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6. You know, I have to go back that way next week. I might just do that.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:40 PM
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12. Wear a navy blue suit and dark sunglasses if you got 'em.
Intimidate the intimdators.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:42 PM
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14. I just happen to have my cowboy hat, sunglasses, and shitkicker
boots on today. I think that would leave more of an impression on these boys than a suit.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:01 PM
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24. Yes, yes, you have the right idea.
He should make sure to get pix of the fundies with the porno store well-focused in the background.

Or "hold this for me for a second, would you?" and hand the fundy a vibrator, then snap a picture.

Or send me a picture of the fundy, and I'll Photoshop a garter belt on him.

Then send copies to all the fundy churches in the area.

Redstone
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:34 PM
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7. Bullies in front of Women's Health Clinics, Bullies in front of voting
places. Bullies in front of schools trying to be integrated.


It will never stop if we do not stand up to them.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:34 PM
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8. If it ever happens again
Be sure to get you a big ole list of license plates numbers. Walk around their vehicles slowly and solemnly jotting down the info. Since ignorant, constitution hating conservatives don't know what the law is, the least you'll cause them is a sleepless night. If they actually were "christian conservatives" chances are one of their spouses is most likely being abused as I hunt and peck. Viva La Porn.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:34 PM
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9. Ah, the sphincter police are out in full force. n/t
Edited on Sun Jun-11-06 07:36 PM by AtomicKitten
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 08:46 AM
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38. Is Tipper still interested in the record business?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:37 PM
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41. It wasn't my turn to watch her today.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 05:09 PM
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43. I thought your comment was referring to her attempt to censor
rock artists language.
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:20 PM
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46. lie. she wasn't trying to censor lyrics
she was trying to get records labeled if they had explicit lyrics.

and yes, you know damn well what "explicit lyrics" are.

do you think nine and ten year olds need to be buying and listening to that? do you think you, as a parent, have the right to know what they are listening to?

you have a problem with that?
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:29 AM
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47. Yes.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:36 PM
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10. You challenged the pinhead. Good job.
Most of us learned in middle school that the only way to deal with a bully was to stand up to him, get in his face, and land a few punches if he deciced he was brave enough to fight (most are not).

You might want to make a police report about harassment and intimidation. Just do the paper trail on this thug and his bully boy buddies. If you know other adventurous people who have been hassled, get them to follow suit.

If the cops have to deal with enough paper, they'll chase the bullies somewhere else.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:38 PM
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11. Not in this neck of the woods, it doesn't get any redder in America
than southern Indiana. It wouldn't surprise me if some of these guys were cops.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:45 PM
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17. *sigh*
I hate to read when this crap happens in this state. Not that it surprises me, just that it irks the heck out of me. I am lucky - I almost *never* encounter the political/religious reality of much of this state. But that leaves me, sometimes, in a bubble - as the reality of much of Indiana isn't my reality.

While it isn't practical (given that you live in another part of the state), I have to agree with Jobycom, upthread. Best way to deal with it, is to return with a camera - or better yet a video cam to tape them. Let them know that this is in case any violence tied to threats of intimidation befall folks whose only non-crime is to walk in and out of that store, as it will give the police possible leads. Those who engage in intimidation, when handled correctly, are also easily intimidated.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:47 PM
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19. Well, like I said earlier, I'll be going back that way next week.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:50 PM
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21. Sounds like you need to make a stop,
with a camera.

Earlier this year (or late last year) I read about a group of thugs somewhere in Va., who would hang out across the street where immigrant/migrant workers often congregated and where contractors would cruise by looking for workers - call out what type of work they needed done, and get workers to sign on for the day/job. The camera folks (tied to that border patrol group) would take pictures of the people, and of the cars (and their license plates) picking folks up.

Then a second group started showing up regularly to take pictures and video of those taking pictures/video of the workers and contractors. Suddenly the first group of video watchers dwindled to none.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:09 PM
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26. That's a good idea too, but don't go alone
because there is nothing more dangerous than a pack of bullies. They'd likely try to take a single person's camera away and smash it. If there's one other person around, they won't.

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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:40 PM
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13. Do these fundies have telephone and cable TV?
Because those 2 mediums supply far more porn than that store.
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blueinindiana Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:42 PM
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15. RU talking about Indiana?
Indiana the one in Uniontown?
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:43 PM
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16. I think that might have been it. Just north of Scottsburg on 65
around the 58 mile marker.
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blueinindiana Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:47 PM
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18. That is it.
Uniontown

Its all GUNS GOD and GAYS down here let me tell you.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:48 PM
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20. Yeah, I distinctly got that impression. N/T
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:54 PM
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22. This is just how my brainwashed family acts.
Edited on Sun Jun-11-06 07:56 PM by Joe Bacon
Sadly all save one sane brother in law are just like this, all brainwashed by Robertson and Falwell and now they belong to Assembly of God churches that preach the phony Prosperity Gospel--i.e., make the Preacher REAL RICH and YOU might prosper down the road. They blindly go beyond just tithing into "sacrificial giving" so the crooked preacher can feast on chateaubriand and drive his Rolls, and, sadly, they all vote Republican and blame everything bad on Bill Clinton or Hillary.

I try and talk to my nephews and nieces, their minds are closed. The more they suffer, the more they believe the Rapture is coming in a week or 2. You suggest they go to college or school to try and get better, they respond, why do that? Jesus is coming next week. They do not care one bit about bettering this world. They do not have a social conscience. Their Preacher tells them that God made the rich rich and they are on their own. Sadly, they ride the YOYO (You're On You're Own) train to church every Sunday for more Repblican propaganda, and their bible is Atlas Shrugged. Their Christian fantasy is a Lasseiz Fairyland called Galt's Gulch where Looking Out For # 1 is the first and only commandment.

And there is nothing I can do to help them. This country is lost.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:53 PM
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31. The ultimate irony: Ayn Rand HATED religion with a purple passion, lol.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:01 PM
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23. if it was me, I would have gotten out of my truck,
bitch-slapped him down to the ground, smashed his camera and then slapped one of my "who's yer Daddy" bumper stickers on his forehead. Obviously I'm not a pacifist. :evilgrin: And it helps that I'm 6'3", 275 lbs and an ex bouncer in a biker bar.


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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:07 PM
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25. welcome to DU!
:hi:
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:17 PM
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27. Thank you...
I've been reading for a while and finally decided to register and post some. Interesting site, if I do say so myself.
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Kenergy Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:22 PM
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29. Welcome to DU Ghost ! n/t
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:36 PM
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30. Thank you! n/t
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Tulum_Moon Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 09:59 PM
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33. It would be easier for me to just
run them over with the truck. I am 5'3".
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 12:01 AM
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37. Hiya STRETCH! LOL
Just hope you don't hurt you truck!



OH... is that an American made truck??? :evilgrin:
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:19 PM
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28. LOL...Good going! If I had heard someone rattling off my LP#, I would
Edited on Sun Jun-11-06 08:20 PM by rasputin1952
have stopped, parked, gotten a notepad/pencil and gone over and start copying their #'s down; ask for names, addresses, affiliations, etc. If they want to play that type of game, I would have gotten info and passed it on to the cops w/an explanation they were harassing people going into and out of a local business and were threatening people with exposure and possible violence.

I also would have laughed hysterically as they collectively peed their pants at the possibility of their being arrested for threatening people with retribution because they wanted to stop and shop.

Or maybe I would have smacked them w/a latex "toy"...:evilgrin:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:10 PM
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34. too funny!
The latter remedy would really resonate.
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:56 PM
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32. Re:
Just because this dumbass is repressed sexually doesn't mean that he has to keep us from enjoying sex.

You're lucky you didn't stick around. Those big, scary fundies would've gotten you (I'm pissing my pants right now in fear). Also, stupidity can be infectious.
Ringo
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:56 PM
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36. Here is an article I found on the net about this group and some other link
Edited on Mon Jun-12-06 12:12 AM by Freedom_from_Chains
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 09:14 AM
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39. Sex and Violence
All the above posts about driving over Christians with your truck. I am speechless. How is that any different from threatening physical violence against women or liberals or african americans?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 09:19 AM
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40. fundies are about intimidating people ... in the name of the lord n/t
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 04:48 PM
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42. That's infuriating... (n/t)
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 05:28 PM
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44. What good would it do for them to take down license numbers?
Obtaining personal information thru vehicle license numbers is illegal in Indiana except for lawful purposes and what they are doing is not permitted.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:08 PM
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45. Fundies are anti-intellectual, anti-creative, anti-free thought...
...anti-tolerance, anti-individual, and anti-diversity.

Like Garrison Keillor wrote in a recent editorial, the iPod was not developed by Baptists in Waco (Texas).

With ineptitude on full display, the party's over for Republicans
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