Ohio 2004: The Howard Dean Interview (Rolling Stone -National Affairs...)

[Up2Late]

(O.K. all you Deaniacs, how did you miss this interview? This is related to the RFK Jr. Election 2004 article.)
6/5/06, 1:17 pm EST

Ohio 2004: The Howard Dean Interview

Rolling Stone: How confident are you Ohio in 2004 was fairly decided?

Howard Dean: I’m not confident that the election in Ohio was fairly decided. We did our own Democratic party study in Ohio with a panel of experts. We absolutely know that there was a systematic voter suppression. We couldn’t say one way or another if the election was stolen. We couldn’t rule it out, but we couldn’t prove that it was. We know that there was substantial voter suppression, and the machines were not reliable. That’s clear.

RS: Were you caught off guard by the scale of the vote suppression campaign?

HD: We all know about the Republican culture of corruption. It should not be a surprise that the Republicans are willing to do things that are unethical to manipulate elections. That’s what we suspect has happened, and we’d like to safeguard our elections so that democracy can still be counted on to work.

The Republicans, we believe, have a different motive. They believe the less votes the better. Republicans like to suppress votes because they believe they do better in small turnouts. Characteristically, Democrats would rather lose an election with a huge turnout than win one with a small turnout because we think that the values of democracy have to be placed above the interests of the party. The reason that Republicans are such failures at governing is because they place the interests of their party ahead of the interests of the country.

(more at link)

<http://www.rollingstone.com/nationalaffairs/?p=175>

Also, check out these related posts too:

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x432025>

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2665256&mesg_id=2665256>

[blm]

1. Howard needs to convene EVERY Dem election board member in the country

and they need to do intense training and demonstrations of how rigged machines work to steal Democratic votes.

Hopefully it woulld get some national attention, and those Dems could take what they learn and spread the word on a local level.

[msongs]

2. way to go Dr. Dean - now get your party as a whole to give a dip ok? nt

[madfloridian]

3. I posted part of it yesterday, and Kerry's statement as well.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2662753&mesg_id=2662827

It is so hard to get to the RS website, so slow.

[OzarkDem]

4. That's probably why the Plain Dealer took a cheap shot at Dean this week

in the section about political blogs, they had a photo of Dean giving a speech w/ a caption something to the effect that "Dean raised a lot of money for his 2004 primary race through bloggers until his career went downhill"

On edit: this is going to be a brutal election season here in Ohio.

[blm]

5. Oh hell, I'm gonna kick this one.

This is still the most important issue there is right now.

[madfloridian]

6. I'll kick it also....

:hi:

[madfloridian]

7. What does the RS cover look like? What dates?

Hubby tried to find one this week, but it did not have the election thing featured. What would be the date and the cover? Pic?

[Up2Late]

8. I think this is an on-line only section, it's basically the RS Blog.

But the issue with the RFK Jr. article in it has the "Red Hot Chili Peppers" on the cover, June 15, 2006 #1002, I just got my copy at Borders Books.:hippie:

[madfloridian]

9. Thanks, not the one he saw.

Will have to check later. We always buy print copies when a magazine puts out something worthwhile. We never buy Vanity Fair or Rolling Stone, but we do when they come out with something interesting and worthwhile. Shows support.