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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 10:56 PM
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bush, cheney, neo-cons, PNAC: here's the Cliff notes version
Edited on Mon Jun-05-06 11:03 PM by welshTerrier2
this post from a writer on the Huffington Post pretty much says it all:


source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-smiley/hi-mom_b_22128.html

I read that pundits and Tony Blair himself are beginning to dribble on again about how the mess in Iraq constitutes “good-intentions-gone-wrong”. Too bad for them that the Downing Street memo and other documents from before the war show not only that Bush’s and Cheney’s intentions were never good, but also that Tony Blair knows this perfectly well. <skip>

Here’s some news for all those who regret what might have been (if the Iraq War had “gone right” or been “properly fought”): The Iraq war would not have gone right. It could never have gone right. Mistakes were not made. The Iraq war was not intended to go well or badly, because nothing about it was intended. The Iraq war, for Bush and Cheney, was a sideshow on their way to consolidating the iron-fisted power of themselves and their corporate buddies in the US. (Note to those who wonder why the hatred many of us feel for Bush is ever-fresh: We know that their plan to disenfranchise us was always the first priority, and we cannot forgive them until they are defeated). The execution of the plan began with the theft of the 2000 election. The conservatives had been lying in wait and scheming to regain power for eight years, and when Scalia and his unethical and possibly criminal colleagues handed the executive branch to them, they started acting at once to simultaneously castrate the Democrats and provoke some sort of showdown with Saddam. Democracy in Iraq was never the point. The point was taking over Iraqi oil fields and using them to profit American oil companies--that is, theft, or, let’s make the correct legal distinction, armed robbery, plain and simple. The US Congress and the
Judiciary were to be hollowed out and turned into shadow branches of the all-powerful executive. The conventional wisdom among Neocons was that just as Americans would be too dumb to know the difference between an actual republic and a sham republic, they would also be too dumb to know the difference between a baseless war of aggression and a justifiable war of self-defense. Some always were and still are too dumb to know the difference, and one of these is Tony Blair, but they underestimated the rest of us. <skip>

Of course, the immediate danger is that the perpetrators of these crimes against democracy and humanity are too blind to see that they have failed already. The danger is that they will fight to the finish and beyond, destroying whatever they can (Iran, the State Department, the Congress, the rest of the world) before yielding. Rove, Cheney, and the others cannot win the power they sought, but they can perpetrate another election fraud, this one even more blatant than the last two or three. Possibly they will simply block the voting and corrupt the voting machines. Possibly they will come up with some other pretext, such as an attack on Iran, to rally support and/or install martial law. But eventually, we will get rid of them. <skip>

you can read the full article here ...
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 09:45 AM
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1. Many good points and plainly stated. I don't quite agree
with the last paragraph in your quote: "too blind to see that they have failed already". I believe they have succeeded beyond their wildest expectations. They have accomplished more for cororate America than they could have hoped for and probably can't believe they are still in office. They went for it in every policy area, risking everything, and yet are still in power. They changed scientific reports, used industry insiders as regulators, manufactured intelligence, started an illegal war, fired dissenters, lied to congress, generated fake news, alienated our longtime foreign friends, sqaundered world respect, created a paralyzing deficit, gutted the dollar, empowered rivals by handing them the keys to our debt, neutered FEMA and wrecked a city, turned intelligence gathering inward to spy on americans, handed over public treasures to biz, and...more.....

They will be heroes in the boardroom and fundie churchss for a generation. The danger you speak of, destroying whatever they can before they leave, has already happened. Even if they are impeached tomorrow, they have won. Many of the misdeeds and outrages cannot be reversed and will have lasting consequences. We have let them win over the last six years at every turn. If a thief is finally caught after a lifetime of stealing and living high, the punishment is not retirement to enjoy the riches. It should be jail. Impeachment and a little disgrace is small price to pay for fleecing the public and driving gov't into the ditch.

I agree that for the next election they will continu to "go for it all" and turn the election into an ugly, confused mess in hopes of thwarting the will of the people againl. What have they got to lose?
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 10:09 AM
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2. interesting analysis ...
Edited on Tue Jun-06-06 10:12 AM by welshTerrier2
it's really very hard to say where we are right now ... the devastation they've caused will indeed last for a generation or more ...

viewed as a half-empty glass, one could quite realistically see mostly darkness and very little hope ...

and this may well be the correct assessment of our condition ...

but i guess i see myself as something of a "counter-puncher" ... with the right message, i.e. outing the evil they've done, i believe a momentum can be built that will wash them out to sea for generations ... i feel an energy i haven't felt since the mid to late 60's ... not the hot, passionate, in the streets anti-vietnam protests but the gathering of students, lefties, civil rights warriors, intellectuals, musicians, and now, bloggers, from which the mass movement eminated ...

we've been very small ... we've been distracted ... we've been apart from one another ... a writer here ... a professor there ... an occasional documentary now and then ... there was no core; there was no synergy ... it's becoming increasingly clear something has started to gel ... the net is a huge asset ... to plant our seeds, we no longer need to achieve the very difficult task of mobilizing hundreds of thousands on to the streets on a regular basis ...

our movement can be built one little post at a time ... we are the MSM ... and if those on TV or in the press ignore us, they quickly become irrelevant and they will surely fail commercially ... in the end, they cannot afford to do that ...

there's no denying how much destruction our weakness and the deep slumber of our brothers and sisters have enabled ... the holes have been dug very, very deep ... the evil ones have not been incompetent or unsuccessful; they've been competent, evil and very successful ...

i don't think the author of the linked article was suggesting otherwise ... her statement "too blind to see that they have failed already" did not convey to me that the evil ones had not achieved their initial goals but rather that they do not foresee their inevitable doom ... by "failed already", i think her focus was on their goal for eternal power ...

we are all going to suffer from the crimes and the greed of the evil ones; still, while the pain they caused will be great, i'm still optimistic ... i take great comfort in seeing this fledging movement growing everyday ... and i have no doubt, none, that we will crush them into dust and that we will soon be returned to power ...
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:42 AM
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3. yeah...a 60's-like movement is needed badly
and two years ago, I predicted to friends that the 60's were coming back as a natural response to current political trends and to rampant corporatism and commericalism. Not so sure it's going to happen, but I hope to see a unifying opposition movement of some kind. Since 93% of the country seems to favor strong environmental protection and I think some day the extent of rape and pillage of public commons (land, air, water) will be discussed more, perhaps a movement will be born from there.

This administration is prepared to combat nascient activism, though, and it will be an uphill battle. What comes to mind is the fellow who burned some SUV's at a dealer was branded a terrorist and sentenced to half a lifetime of jail.
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