CNN reporting Biden called for Rumsfeld firing - anyone recall if he gave

[blm]

Kerry back up when Kerry called for Rumsfeld's firing TWICE - one of those being after Abu Ghraib?

Anyone have a list of those Dems who did? I know MoveOn promoted it, but I don't recall who else jumped in.

[kiahzero]

1. Yeah, pretty sure he did

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/10/rumsfeld.congress/index.html
Monday morning, Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Delaware, described Rumsfeld as "irrelevant" to the problems facing the United States in Iraq, in light of the scandal now shaking the Defense Department.

"I don't care if Rumsfeld goes or stays," Biden, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told CNN.

"I think he's irrelevant, quite frankly. He's been wrong so many times, as the vice president has been."

Then from 2005:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/?feed=TopNews&article=UPI-1-20050814-18420400-bc-us-biden.xml
WASHINGTON, Aug. 14 (UPI) -- U.S. Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., again called for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to be fired Sunday, saying he "should get his notice Monday morning."

On NBC's "Meet the Press," Biden reiterated his call for Rumsfeld's resignation, originally made last December.

He referred to a New York Times article that claimed U.S. troops are still without adequate armor, and said if the architects of the Iraq war were corporate CEOs, they would have lost their jobs by now.

"We can't fire the president and the vice president for their incompetence to the extent that it exists, but you can, in fact, do that with the Secretary of Defense," Biden said. "I don't understand the president's willingness to continue to follow the advice of a man who has not been right on a single major piece of advice he has given ... since the statue of Saddam (fell) on that fateful day over two-and-a-half years ago."

In 2006:
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion?pid=70418
"Mr. Rumsfeld must step down," added Eaton, whose stance was echoed on CNN by U.S. Senator Joe Biden, the Delaware Democrat who is the ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. "Imagine what would happen if it were announced tomorrow in the headlines of the papers of America and throughout the world that Rumsfeld was fired," explained Biden. "It would energize, energize the rest of the world, to be willing to help us. It would energize American forces, it would energize the political environment. Yes, he should step down. I agree with every single statement made by the former general training Iraqi forces in Iraq."

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2. I hope so. I just didn't pick it up on google.

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[kiahzero]

4. biden rumsfeld

That's how I got all those stories, all on the first page.

[blm]

8. I was looking for when he backed up Kerry calling for Rumsfeld firing.

In 2003 and then in 2004 when Kerry was the nominee.

The 2004 statement about not caring if Rumsfeld goes or stays isn't quite the same as giving back up when Kerry called for firing Rumsfeld then.

[kiahzero]

9. The earliest reference I could find was 12/2004

So maybe not; I wasn't sure what the timeframe in question was.

[chelsea0011]

3. How about we arrest Rummy and put him on trial and then fire him?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

5. One doesn't do that to "The Sexiest Man Alive."

[flakey_foont]

6. no way!

I thought I was the sexiest man alive!!!!!

[Donkeykick]

7. I actually...

have a feeling that Rummey will probably resign before the end of this year.

[Stinky The Clown]

10. Joe Biden - party of self - blows more smoke

Who the fuck cares *what* Biden calls for ...... this is as meaningful a call as when he calls Dominoes for a pizza delivery. Actually, the call for pizza is more real and meaningful, when you stop to actually think about it.

[Evergreen Emerald]

11. Every time I see Biden on the news he is calling for Rumsfield to be fired

[blm]

13. He seems to be now, but wouldn't back up Kerry in 2003 and 4 when he

was calling for it and even as the nominee of the party.

Doesn't that strike anyone as odd, that Democrats WOULDN'T back up their nominee and make it a stand together issue at the time?

[wisteria]

12. Biden is for Biden. I saw his appearance today and I got annoyed

when he bashed Rumsfield and never even credited Kerry.