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MidwestMomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:09 AM
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Who is really the Bush supporter?
People criticize Clark because he praised Bush and his administration at a Republican fundraiser. Also there's that newspaper article after the war started where he said good things about Bush et al. BUT....

Doesn't voting for the Iraq War Resolution, Patriot Act and No Child Left Behind make you a Bush supporter too?

Just a question to ponder.
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Blayde Starrfyre Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:17 AM
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1. Easy for a Clark supporter to say
I am 100% opposed to each of those 3, but if, as your avatar indicates, you are for Clark, I don't think this can be used to support your candidate. Clark was not in the position to vote yea or nay on these so it's impossible to say what he would have done.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:21 AM
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2. Perhaps. but that is the crux of my problem with Kerry and the others.
They had a chance to make a principled stand. But they
didn't. Unfortunately, there were swept away with the
tide that got all of them. Few made that principled stand
and those that did, I admire them. What bothers me even more
about Kerry's votes is the fact that he wasn't up for
election and had nothing to lose and years to work it
out with his constituents.

All sides have their piccadilloes and I hope those who
have these skeletons in their candidates closets remember
this before they throw stones. Glass houses don't you
know.

RV, still trying to get voting for crap when it carves
holes in your soul to do it. What happened to FUCK EM!
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MidwestMomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:27 AM
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4. The question isn't what Clark would have done
For clarification, the question is ..Isn't voting for Bush-endorsed legislation supporting Bush and his administration?

I ask this because people have made a HUGE deal about Clark praising Bush and his administration and spinning that as supporting Bush and I was wondering why voting for Bush's legislation isn't seen as supporting Bush also.

Thanks for your response.
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Blayde Starrfyre Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:24 AM
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5. OK then
Fair enough. I don't think it's necessarily true. With Kerry looking more and more likely to win this nomination, yes it would have been nice if he took a stand against Iraq and against the Patriot Act. In my mind, there is no excuse for supporting such abhorent legislation. That being said, I would classify voting for such things as "covering one's own ass" rather than "supporting the President." Again, I don't think this is acceptable, but there is a big difference between this and Clark praising Bush.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:23 AM
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3. You know many of your endorsers voted for those 3
I can think of a man in this race who voted against two of those things but everyone is convinced hes unelectable, hint his intials are DK.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:40 AM
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6. The Real Support, Ma'am, For The Criminals Of The '00 Coup
Comes in two forms, at least here.

First, from those ideological purists who insist if the candidate they prefer does not secure the nomination, they will sit on their hands, rather than sully them with a vote for someone clearly the lesser of two evils. People like this are a key to reactionary success, and their material support is counted on by the enemy.

Second, from persons who engage in spreading baseless and exaggerated criticisms of other Democratic candidates for the Party's nomination. This does the enemy's work for him. People should point out the good features of the candidate they support, and direct their criticisms towads the criminal administration that has usurped office and done such harm to country and its people these last few years.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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MidwestMomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:59 AM
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7. I guess what I was trying to say was
That people that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Did I make that point at all?

This posting to message boards is tricky sometimes. What you try to say isn't always clear.

Thanks for your response. I am committed to kicking the usurper out in November which is why I support the candidate that I do.

Go Wes!


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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:04 AM
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8. Gen. Clark Is My Own Preferred Candidate, Ma'am
If he has accused Sen. Kerry of being a supporter of the current administration, it has escaped my notice....

"An election differs from a civil war only as the bloodless surrender of a force outnumbered in the field differs from Waterloo."
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