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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 07:00 PM Original message |
A minor complaint about Wes Clark |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. . |
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heartofthesiskiyou (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 07:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. me too |
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nickshepDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 08:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Scoot over and pass the dip! |
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imlost (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 11:36 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. me three.. |
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guidod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 12:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
98. It's like I've always said, |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. You seem to be ignoring the facts. |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Who cares about facts when you've got a chance |
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guidod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 04:48 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Who said anything about |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. It sounds a lot like quibbling "to me" |
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guidod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 10:14 AM Response to Reply #103 |
113. You have to turn off your sensitive button. |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 11:31 AM Response to Reply #113 |
119. Well, suppose I were to say to you... |
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guidod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 11:30 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. Now you're beginning to sound |
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guidod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 04:54 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. I'm responding to the opening post. |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. If your mind is set, there is no reason to read further. |
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guidod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 10:21 AM Response to Reply #105 |
114. Who the hell said my mind is set. |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #114 |
121. You are the only one bringing up '08. |
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guidod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 11:32 PM Response to Reply #121 |
125. I'm getting the strangest |
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CarolNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 05:40 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Of course you don't have to read through the whole thread... |
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guidod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #106 |
115. The only thing I want to be informed about |
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CarolNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 11:10 AM Response to Reply #115 |
117. I'm not quite sure what this thread has to do with 2008... |
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guidod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 11:38 PM Response to Reply #117 |
126. Call it what you want, |
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CarolNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 12:10 AM Response to Reply #126 |
127. You might find that easier... |
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guidod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 01:13 AM Response to Reply #127 |
129. Sorry, I didn't know that you |
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CarolNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 10:16 AM Response to Reply #129 |
130. Ay carumba! |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 01:31 PM Response to Reply #130 |
136. Maybe he thinks anything about Clark is about 2008 |
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CarolNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 06:23 PM Response to Reply #136 |
138. unaware and slow thinking... |
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guidod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 07:14 PM Response to Reply #130 |
139. Nah. You can have the |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 12:56 PM Response to Reply #98 |
120. I've found that he is a slow blinker. It's kind of scary to watch! |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 03:37 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. Since blinking is associated with lying, I find it comforting. N/T |
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NCarolinawoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. Psychologists say Fast Blinking means you're lying. |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 12:52 AM Response to Reply #120 |
128. Actually that old meme has been proven just another lie |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 12:25 PM Response to Reply #128 |
135. Still gives me the creeps. I'm not repeating a meme. I am |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 05:18 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. Yes, you are repeating a meme. |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #137 |
140. I've seen him in person 5 times here in Arkansas. I've met him and |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
2. If anybody on earth knew about Malmedy, it would be Clark. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 07:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I listened to the crook and liars version of the second encounter |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 01:48 AM Response to Reply #5 |
29. I think you ought to listen again |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 08:27 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. That is an accurate rendition of the conversation |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 11:35 AM Response to Reply #39 |
55. Like you say, it is different |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 12:04 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Dean does poorly with friendly interviewers for some reason |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 12:24 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Well, Stewart will always go for the joke |
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Cosmocat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 12:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
97. The problem is that O'Reilly is ... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. Well, let's just throw him to the lions. It would be a better world |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 07:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Oh c'mon |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 08:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Yeah, understood. But I'm in the camp that doesn't want to slight |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 05:19 AM Response to Reply #21 |
32. And I am in the camp that wants our spokespeople to be competent |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 05:27 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. My take on Clark is that he is pretty consistently clear and |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 05:43 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. That is why I raised this as a minor point |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 10:12 AM Response to Reply #35 |
93. Please tell me why your negative OP was NECESSARY criticism. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 09:35 AM Response to Reply #32 |
43. And I suppose YOU could have done a better job. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 10:38 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. That is irrelevent |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 11:40 AM Response to Reply #45 |
56. And you would have bought time how? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 11:49 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. It would have taken one sentence to say |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #58 |
81. And he DID spend one sentence on it |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 08:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
109. He didn't exactly bungle this one. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 05:54 AM Response to Reply #21 |
36. I agree |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 08:53 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Didn't mean to hurt anybody's feelings. |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 08:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. The OP asked a civil question |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 08:05 AM Response to Reply #14 |
91. Apparently it wasn't "minor". |
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CarolNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #91 |
95. steps ahead |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. Look into it? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 07:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. listen to the crookandliars tape |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. One has to pick one's battles |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 07:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. That isn't what O'Reilly claimed |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 07:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. To repeat: Clark didn't need to "look into" it |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 08:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. The man argued as if what O'Reilly said was true |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 10:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Yes, what he asked him was about |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 05:15 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. He does argue moral equivalence |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 10:44 AM Response to Reply #30 |
47. In military history, Malmedy is "recent history" n/t |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
9. BOR edits his show.... |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
11. Clark said: "Prove it." |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. No he didn't |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
82. Yes he DID. |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
12. Nawww, Clark handled it perfectly |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
13. Actually, I'm not sure that Wes Clark heard "Malmady"..... |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
16. I'm not sure what the point of going on that show is |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. The latest Pew survey show that the Fox audience |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 11:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. thanks for the stats! |
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heartofthesiskiyou (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
17. n/t |
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phylla (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
23. Ya know, Wes knows when to let a fool make a bigger fool out of himself |
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ArkySue (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
28. I had the chance to ask... |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 05:16 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. and that might be the reason |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 07:43 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. I thought he was in a FOX studio, but still remote... |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 12:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
62. Hadn't really thought of it that way, but |
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sutz12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 05:34 AM Response to Original message |
34. To be honest, it went right by me, too. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 08:28 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. He had spouted the same falsehood |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
37. Look... |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 08:49 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. They are put under a microscope all the time |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. IndyOP has it right |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. One can do both |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 10:46 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. So, one sentence would have made this entire thread unnecessary? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 10:52 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Yes |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. But, no one has challenged them more than Wes... |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 04:59 PM Response to Reply #50 |
88. Yeah but few care about WW2 misinformation |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 11:44 AM Response to Reply #46 |
57. It would have been a distraction. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 11:50 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Gore tried that discipline |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 12:22 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Which storyline is that? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. that war is equal opportunity bad |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 10:44 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. I didn't mention Dean... |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 11:02 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Unlike you I don't have problems with criticism of Dean |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 11:02 AM Response to Reply #41 |
53. Your real agenda is showing here. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #53 |
60. people who are unwilling to acknowledge any mistake on his part |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 12:21 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Mistake? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. It might help to actually read posts you reply to and within the thread |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. I did not accuse you of anything. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 01:48 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. To whom did this line refer then? |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 04:35 PM Response to Reply #75 |
86. Sharing my general philosophy |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 12:35 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. I still see no mention of Christ except yours. |
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CarolNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #66 |
80. dog, it looks like your post, |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 02:41 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. I noticed the persecution complex prevails. |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. I think it's kind of unfair |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 12:44 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Reading this thread, sorry I don't |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Good point that this is a discussion board |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. Let me say this slowly and clearly for you... |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 01:50 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. What is a big deal to me is people who criticise others |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 01:58 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. I have never called you a name! |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 10:17 AM Response to Reply #76 |
94. I repeat...CONSTRUCTIVE criticism is OK...just CRITICISM isn't! |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
54. Possibly Clark knows more about the subject than you do. |
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CarolNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 12:36 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. I thought this same thing.... |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. It is cowardly to call names behind someone's back |
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CarolNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 02:19 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Wow, kind of looks like.... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 03:08 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. I'm not sure who's calling who names, but in reference to your OP |
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NCarolinawoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 03:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
84. Clark's obvious point was to differentiate between the killing of soldiers |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
87. Another consideration might be that General Clark was not given |
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Clarkansas (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
89. Edwards letting Cheney say "We've never met before" in one of the debates |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-03-06 05:08 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. It took every bit of 60 minutes in time for photos to appear on the web |
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Justice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
92. I think folks are missing the real point in this situation, which is |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
96. Clark had O'Reilly admitting he may be wrong on his own show |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
104. Have you ever seen the SNL parody of O'Reilly? |
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Tactical Progressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
107. I'm glad Wes left that one for Keith Olbermann |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 07:08 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. The story was repeated by Pat Buchanan |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 09:24 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. This is a GOP talking point. |
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CarolNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 10:11 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Good point about the GOP talking points.. |
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Tactical Progressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 10:57 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Making the GOP talking-point whores even MORE WRONG |
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SunDrop23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
116. IMO Clark handled it perfectly. |
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Dread Pirate KR Read (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 11:25 AM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Perfectly! Clark deflected O'Lielly's desperate debate tactic |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
131. Why Wes Clark works for Fox News is way beyond me... |
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CarolNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 10:23 AM Response to Reply #131 |
132. Wes at Fox |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #132 |
133. Perhaps Fox is the Hitler in my analogy |
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CarolNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 10:31 AM Response to Reply #133 |
134. It's not so bad.... |
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