I find this picture of Dean, the DNC chairman, rather disturbing.

[LoZoccolo]

I see no need to shout like this and point your finger in front of Democrats. It is disturbing that a man like this is trying to demagogue with loud screams and gestures.



Before we go on to talking about winning the 2006 elections and making things work for us, I think we should have a couple hundred responses about this one picture and make sure that's settled.

_{NOTE: This post is sarcastic.}

[babylonsister]

1. OK...

:popcorn: :patriot:

[Stinky The Clown]

2. I'm glad you noted the sarcasm

Cuz for me, that's the good Doctor at his very best.

[hlthe2b]

3. those with poor close vision....

please don your reading glasses before you stroke out!


Ahem.....;-)

[Demobrat]

4. Oh, I don't know.

The more screaming and finger-pointing the better, I say.

[napi21]

5. Oh for goodness sake. That looks like the pic from the rally

where the media publicized "The Dean Scream!" You can take a single frame from anyone's campaign and make them look angry, or probably any other emtion you'd like to select.

Go find another pic and quit gripeing.

[Tiggeroshii]

7. In his defense

he did note his sarcasm...

[napi21]

Sorry...I didn't see it. There have been so many posts on DU lately

from what appear to be "hiding Freepers" I instantly get suspicious.

Then again, I have been staring at this darn screen for several hours now...must be time to go to bed.

[madfloridian]

23. This is in response to my post about the disturbing pic at the DLC site.

Doesn't bother me at all. The picture is still disturbing, the post is just below this one.

[LoZoccolo]

14. Go find another pic.

The finger, the screaming, there it is again.

_{NOTE: This post is sarcastic.}

[aquart]

27. Fabulous can-do picture.

Love it.

[Mojambo]

6. He looks how I feel.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

[MrBenchley]

8. If EVERY Democrat doesn't believe EXACTLY what I believe

I'm going to pout and scream!!!

[Name removed]

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[SOS]

61. Do you always support the North Dakota GOP?

Or do you just share in their hate for our Democratic Party Chairman?

The picture is from www.ndgop.com!

[liberalhistorian]

84. Never mind Benchley,

he's got a few "issues" of his own to work out. :evilgrin:

[bleever]

9. He's unhinged!

Whereas, I myself have never actually been hinged to begin with.

:)

[Sal Minella]

11. I saw a magazine article, "Attaining Hingedness," once but

I forgot to fold down the corner, and lost it forever........

[Olney Blue]

12. Hi bleever! Are you staying away from CD until Keith gets back?

:hi:

[bleever]

17. Hi Olney.

Not necessarily, but even if it's not a slow news night, none of the subs gets the great interviews and asks the critical questions like KO.

[Olney Blue]

10. Dean is the man!

I've decided that being the "angry" left (as they keep calling us) is a GOOD thing!

[On the Road]

13. I Think We Should Have Democrats Who Gesture Like This

[madfloridian]

15. LOL

:rofl:

[ulysses]

16. what's with the Dem hating? n/t

[LoZoccolo]

18. Too many are in league with Bush* and are Republican-lite.

[ulysses]

22. indeed they are.

Dennis isn't one of them, but you're absolutely right.

[Douglas Carpenter]

19. AT LEAST he's not promoting racism, bigotry and warmongering

[LoZoccolo]

20. At LEAST I don't beat my wife. n/t

[tkmorris]

26. When did you stop?

This also is sarcasm. Fun stuff, sarcasm.

[William769]

24. I find Howard Dean Disturbing!

Note, this post is not Sarcastic.

[Name removed]

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[madfloridian]

28. You are using a very sexist term. To whom do you refer?

I seldom see that word used here at DU. Not appreciated.

[oasis]

46. ?

?

[MindPilot]

29. Since no one has yet to "point" this out, I will.

He appears to be using the wrong finger.

[Name removed]

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[Writer]

31. LOL

:rofl:

[madfloridian]

32. These pictures disturb me greatly. I don't mind the one you posted.

I wrote about this picture in a fair way. It is disturbing to spread fear and anger like this.



This one is disturbing to me a lot, it appears to show cooperation with the war we did not need to have.



And this one needs no words at all.

The one you posted is one I will remember with pride. We were part of that campaign, and it made history for so many good things it did.

There is a group which continues to make fun of other Democrats, and when they stop saying degrading things....then I will meet them halfway.

SO what do you think about my disturbing pictures?

[WildEyedLiberal]

48. Guess you missed the SARCASM disclaimer at the bottom of LZ's post

Why am I not surprised? Gee, it almost seems like someone's trying to pick a fight. Hmm... :eyes:

[madfloridian]

49. See my other post, then start on me.

I am quite serious, the DLC wants this war, it is not funny. That picture of a muslim with the words Defeat Jihadism was not a good thing.

As I say, you make it clear everytime you post that you despise whatever I post.

Frankly, my dear....shades of Rhett Butler in Gone with the Wind.

[madfloridian]

50. And then you next give me a lecture on Dean.

And my posts, etc. Waiting....same every time.

[Common Sense Party]

65. Pretty dumb picture. But I'm all for defeating Jihadism. nt

[RandomKoolzip]

33. I know. It's like the goatse of political pics.

(praying that at least one other DUer knows what I'm talking about....)

[madfloridian]

34. Uncalled for.

.

[RandomKoolzip]

35. Relax, it's a joke.

Dean's my man. (check the archives)

[madfloridian]

47. Glad it's so funny. More disturbing war pics here. Very funny.

The DLC made fun of us for being against this war. They still support it, and they agree not to leave Iraq. I can't forgive that.

[LoZoccolo]

36. You mean...

UNCALLED FOR!

_{NOTE: This post is sarcastic.}

[RandomKoolzip]

37. Uh, "tubgirl," then?

:shrug:

[LoZoccolo]

39. HAI2U!!!1 :) n/t

[madfloridian]

38. Wow, my post about the Jihadism picture struck nerves, didn't it?

I guess someone will soon figure out this was started to continue another post.

[RandomKoolzip]

40. Copycat threads are a longstanding DU tradition....

...as is gratuitous scatology.

[madfloridian]

42. Depends.

on who does them.

[SOS]

71. You've posted three Dean pix on this thread

Here are the sources:

1. North Dakota GOP - www.ndgop.com
2. Illinois Family Institute - http://www.illinoisfamily.org/
3.http://homepage.mac.com/cfj/ - access denied, but a Google shows it to be an extreme right site, linked to LGF, Kerry bashing etc.

Do you ever visit any Democratic sites when choosing your pictures?

[LoZoccolo]

73. I try not to, actually.

I'll let you figure out why. It's actually the opposite of what you're implying.

I find them with Google image search.

[Richard Steele]

43. I imagine a few of us might have a clue...

[RandomKoolzip]

45. Yay!

:bounce:

[madfloridian]

41. More disturbing pics....a war that never needed to happen.

I remember this Danziger cartoon from 2004, a good explanation of why anyone would have screamed. The numbers are much higher now.



I see pictures like this on the internet every day, of a war which a group that sets policy for Democrats supported, and still supports. They won't even come out and say we should leave. It disturbs me because several are going to be 8 candidates.

Disturbing:



How many more of these now?


And Bush says he is not leaving Iraq, and this group appears to nod their heads and agree.

Disturbing.

[RedTail Wolf]

52. Dean....not sure he is "the man" seems to have lack of control.nt

[madfloridian]

53. So do the ones who are still supporting this illegal immoral war.

And so do those who say we are fighting Jihadism when Iraq was a secular country.

They got lots of problems. So do Republicans.

This post was made in response to one I made that did not even mention Dean. It was meant to make me angry, but it really showed true colors of others.

Don't you think?

[htuttle]

44. YEEEARRRRGH ! ! !

[karynnj]

58. Really cool photoshop (or whatever you used) n/t

[madfloridian]

51. Making light of attacking a country that was not "jihadist." Iraq..secular

Making fun of my post which was a serious matter. Kind of sad, really.

The DLC is supporting this war still. I was trying in my other post to point it out.

You are not making my post look bad. It was a good thoughtful one.

Iraq was NOT a "jihadist" country. Sorry.

[paulk]

85. nowhere in the article you keep referencing

is Iraq referred to as a "jihadist" country.

Several times in this thread you have misrepresented the article.

Of course, I am hardly surprised by this.


in your "jihad" against the DLC, truth is a very secondary concern.

[madfloridian]

54. Here's what I posted at the end of my thread about the disturbing pic.

"Please note I did not mention Dean in this post. So some motives ....
are showing. I only critiqued a group for their website and picture. If you read more into it and started other threads attacking Dean or others....then you have your own motives for that.

I did not mention him. I did not criticize individuals, just a group.

Kind of odd, huh, how some decided to go after Dean because I posted this."

[JNelson6563]

55. Yes, yes, very important

We need to discuss this at length, for days. Hundreds of posts.

(good one)

[izzybeans]

56. Yeah that Dean he's always Screaming

:sarcasm:

Passion is for fools. Cardboard cutouts make kings. ;)

[Le Taz Hot]

57. You know, people

if we try REAL HARD I'm sure we can make this board even more petty than it has already become. :eyes:

[Cosmocat]

59. This is a PRIME example ...

of the GOP using the MSM as its enforcer in hijacking the high ground, and denutting the democrats ...

There is NOTHING wrong with what Dean has done ... Gosh darn it, we need MORE PEOPLE LIKE THAT ... BOTH sides ... We need LEADERS who speak from their heart, who wear their emotions and feelings on their sleeves ...

BUT, the way the repukes do ... They have hijacked the whole country, and the sheep are dumbed down to to only be comfortable with slimy, tax cut chirping parrots who hide behind the flag ... Everyone else is demonized in some way ...

AND, these attacks have muted some of what Howard Dean does a bit ... I like him bunches, but you can see where he ends up calculating what he says half the time he is being interviewed or speaking, and that just is a darn shame ...

[rman]

60. you got to be f'in kidding

[PurityOfEssence]

62. It's a fabulous picture

Vehemence is good when fighting against the forces of privilege and greed. Much as I fought against him in the '04 primary melees, he has a spark of true emotion that is very important. This job is the best place for him, and the untapped energies of the many are what he mines.

If it bugs you that he seems too wild, then back off a bit and don't worry; those who hate us will use this as an example of the uncouth barbarians at the gate, but those who are sick of being dominated by the forces of entrenched selfishness will find great strength from this. With any luck, they'll gird their proverbial loins and go out and do battle. If the common folk actually get off their collective asses and vote, there will be no Republican control.

[LSK]

63. NOTE: This post is sarcastic.

For those panicking....

:popcorn:

[donsu]

64. you should see what I look like when I'm on a rant about the neo-cons!

nt

[NoPasaran]

66. This is my favorite disturbing one

I think this was taken the day Dean annexed the Sudetenland.

[madfloridian]

67. These disturb me.

From the DLC magazine cover.


From Iraq, NOT a jihadist country.


Also from Iraq, a non-jihadist country, a war which is not going to end if many of our Democrats have anything to say about it.

Those pictures disturb me.

[NoPasaran]

76. Of all the disturbing things in the world

The least disturbing is the cover of some crappy DLC house organ that no one in the world except you reads.

[madfloridian]

77. You surprise me at times.

.

[NoPasaran]

78. Yeah, I'm full of surprises

[deaniac21]

The good doctor WILL lead us out of the wilderness!

[deaniac21]

68. The good doctor WILL lead us out of the wilderness!

[madfloridian]

69. Definition of sarcasm....fits in this case.

Sarcasm: witty language used to convey insults or scorn.

And yes, this post is ridicule. It is why our Democrats don't speak out much anymore. The media does this to them.

Now our own party and websites do it also.

My post about the Jidadism picture was not ridicule. It was concern, and it was written that way.



I said this picture at the DLC disturbed me. It does. We attacked Iraq with the blessings of this group, and it was not a jihadist country.

[LoZoccolo]

70. You keep posting about the same thing over and over again.

I don't think the DLC article had anything to do with Iraq either, did it? You didn't quote any part of it which did.

[LoZoccolo]

72. And the sarcasm is not aimed at Dean.

You can go back and look at what I had to say about Dean's scream back in 2004 after it happened:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=147642

It's aimed out of trying to make a big deal out of one picture, as people did to Dean. I am making fun of that.

[madfloridian]

74. That jihadist picture is a huge deal.

It says it all about where they want to take our party, spreading Democracy.

There is such a huge difference in that picture at the website of a group which is not of an individual politician, and the ridicule of one man which you did here.

Big difference. Picking out one person to make fun of is ridicule. I did not do that, I never do that.

[LoZoccolo]

75. And I'm saying I didn't do it either!

I don't think you understand.

[suigeneris]

79. I like it. NT.

[OzarkDem]

80. I love it n/t

[Divine Discontent]

82. I want some more of it! n/t

[ecstatic]

81. If only he were taller, more handsome, and less spirited

He would be our President now.

[Divine Discontent]

83. must you be like your user name???

cause that truth you just spoke...


hurts a lot!

Dean is 100X better than shrubya, you got that right!

[Southsideirish]

86. We should all be pointing and screaming and gesturing to get the lard

asses in this party off their fat butts. Go Howard!

[Samantha]

87. Now that I study it more closely, I am pretty sure

he's singing "How Great Thou Art" in an effort to bring the Right Wing into the Democratic fold.

That Howard Dean ... always on the job.