What would you do if Kerry got the nomination?

[Gringo]

I'm fine with a Kerry candidacy - but there sure are a lot of doubters here, so...

[MercutioATC]

1. Grudgingly, but I'm ABB.

[revcarol]

2. You left out, "Cry a lot and take

Prozac." Really, let's have some realistic choice here.

[roguevalley]

4. Hold my nose and vote ABB.

[liberal72]

3. YOU VOTE FOR HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whatever disagreement anyone has with Kerry must be put aside to get rid of BushCo. Kerry is much better than BushCo and issues such as healthcare, the enviroment, gay rights, etc. will get a lot more positive attention than anything BushCo might do.

[calimary]

68. Yeah, have to say I agree with this.

My heart still belongs to "Hollerin' Howard" but if it's gonna be Kerry then I'm there. Because, to me, IT'S JUST ABSOLUTELY NOT GONNA BE BUSH. NOT EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mitchum]

5. Gloat with glee

[BBradley]

6. I'd vote for him, but probably register as a 3rd party, or independent

[Rowdyboy]

7. Vote for the Democratic candidate...What other option is there?

[Egnever]

8. Hold my nose and change my voter registration.

[daveskilt]

9. Its all about the supreme court

and just who bushco would put on it to keep Scalia company. Honestly there isnt a single candidate that looks that great to me right now and some of the more rabid supporters are a bit off putting too. But 4 more of bush means you can kiss goodbye to roe v wade, pretty much all privacy and due process rights, trees, and freedom of speech. Say hello to your new state religion.

If bush gets to put any younger wingnut justices (pickering?) on the court with the age of the most liberal ones being what it is the damage will alst far longer than his 4 years. The genie will not go back in the bottle regardless of who wins in 2008.

[T Bone]

10. sit out is an option, but working my ass off for his election is not?

Who are you polling for?

Hell voting is easy, although many people can't even get off their ass to do that. I'll be out working my ass off to make sure he is elected. I'll do that for any Democrat. Voting alone ain't enough folks. Better get ready to work.

Sitting out is making yourself part of the problem rather than part of the solution. You might as well donate to and vote for Bush.

[daveskilt]

13. It is a participatory democracy...

and as a friend on the dean campaign commented recently "honestly I never knew politics was such a self service industry, you want this guy to be president? you better get other people to vote for him."

[frustrated_lefty]

11. Just not vote

and look for a job in Europe or Canada when my present job runs out in '05-'06.

[daveskilt]

19. Being a European....

it sounds sexy to say oh im off to Canada/NZ/ENgland/Somewhere else if my guy isnt the nominee or even if god forbid bushco wins. but if you give a damn about democracy you stay and you do what you need to do. Protest. Resist. yes even bite the bullet and vote for the lesser of two evils (isnt that what the two party system is all about anyway?). Dont give up on this democracy and look to see if another one works better for you. They wont.

[frustrated_lefty]

31. Valid points.

I have three children, all pre-teens. We home-school all three right now because public education here is so terrible. I'm a scientist, working in gene therapy. The block on stem cell research impacts my work. My wife is terrified that federal agents will show up and take me away because of that work with no reason offered and no way for her to support our kids. At work we know our email is monitored because of contact with the CDC because the Office of Homeland Security said it would be. I don't blame my wife being afraid, although there is no reason on earth she ever should be.

So, to toss a phrase back at you, it sounds "sexy" to say, oh, I'm going to "protest" and "resist." I've seen photos of protestors in California and Florida in the last year or so, people shot at close range with wooden bullets.

This isn't a snotty "if my guy doesn't win, I won't play." Take it that way if you want to. The bottom line for us is there are good reasons to look to Western Europe, particularly with regard to primary education, and there is a lot to be afraid of here in the US.

Before the nominees really made an appearance, we were leaning that way. Dean inspired some hope for substantial change. If it isn't Kucinich or Dean, I just don't see that change happening.

[Dutch]

60. There's a lot to be a afraid of in Europe too.

Bush may be ahead of the game in gutting social services and screwing ordianry working people, but the leaders of most European countries are just as eager to jump on his fetid bandwagon, just look at a supposed "left" leader like Schroder with his efforts to dismantle Germany's healthcare system - and then you've got Blair... Sadly, the only answer is for people to stand up for themselves, wherever they are.

[daveskilt]

65. Fair enough

As a UK citizen who has lived in the US for 14 years, I have also considered going back for better education systems and for all the same reasons as you. We plan on home schooling if we are not in an area where quality schooling is available.

I recently started the process to become a US citizen. I value the democracy and freedom I had in Britain. They are things that we have in other countries but they are what the US IS. Britain was around before it was a democracy and would continue after democracy. The US only exists because of what it is. I see what bushco are doing as destroying not just a thing that the US has but what the US is. nowhere else in the world exists solely for freedom and democracy. It is important enough to me to work within the system to fight to keep the US being the US.

I apologize for my mistaken assumption that you were one of the many "if my guy doesnt win I'm not playing" types. Kucinich would be ideal, Dean would be alright (I know too many of his campaign folks to feel totally confident about their abilities and organization) but could I handle a slower change with a caretaker democrat instead of the jingoistic cowboy currently wiping his arse with the constitution? My vote is for change, even if it is slower or less than I would like.

[Qanisqineq]

12. Vote for Kerry

Because to do otherwise is a disservice to the troops stuck in the Iraq quagmire.

[daveskilt]

15. A non vote means you want to keep troops in iraq

among other things.

[revcarol]

42. When did Kerry grow angel wings and say he wanted

the troops out of Iraq? Just the same-o, same-o with Bush on THAT issue.

and you wonder why he doesn't thrill some of us. Now is NOT the time for same-o, same-o.

[tedzbear]

50. You are right on...

I remember when * campaigned he claimed he was a dove who would lobby for a peaceful bilateral foreign policy. Ha!

I believe Kerry is the same wolf in sheep's clothing. They both answer to Exxon-Mobil and Boeing.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

14. I'd vote for any of the bastards to win the election

I've seen the devil and his name is Bush.

[PVnRT]

37. How DARE you insult the devil

Wash your mouth out with soap, missy.

[pop goes the weasel]

16. vote for Kerry

Just as I'd vote for whoever else got the Democratic nomination. Kerry, Edwards, Clark, my candidate DK, and even Dean ;) are all decent people, each in their own way, and W doesn't deserve so much as to gnaw the gum wad off the soles of their shoes.

[Capn Sunshine]

17. I would work for him

90% of the delegates are yet to be chosen. It's a little premature to assume anything or coronate any one candidate yet.

That last sentence I got from a Kerry supporter in December.

[JohnKleeb]

51. It still remains true, it aint over

Many including myself are confident but not definite. How the tide turns. Who knows maybe this time next month, Kucinich will be in the lead :D now that would be cool :).

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. Vote Dem for Senator & Rep, Green for Prez - same for Edwards.

But, you ABB folks can relax, I'm in a "safe" state, full of liberal/leftist Dems who will probably be able to stifle their gag reflexes better than I can.

[ChiefJoseph]

20. Work my heart out to get him elected.

[DEM FAN]

21. Vote For Him No Question About It.

Anyone But Bush.

[lcordero]

22. I'm curious about your fourth option

How much of a lapse would there be in between the Democratic convention and the Republican convention?
I would need some time to heal up from getting bashed on the head by the cops from the first convention.

[Gringo]

24. The dem convention is first - in July

The repukes woun't be dancing and pissing on the graves of the 9-11 victims until early September.

[lcordero]

26. September is well covered

All I would have to do is take the #6 train to Manhattan and keep the picket in a big bag.

The one in July would require some planning.

[meisje]

23. I'll watch as the media destroys him

n/t

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[John_H]

28. Since the above post will be deleted--here's the important link

Still, a faction of the Dean movement seems ready to punish the party -- indeed, to punish the country -- for failing to heed Dean's message and repay their own ardent campaigning. Their anger is directed especially at Kerry, whom they blame for dashing their dreams. Given how close the election is likely to be, even a few thousand disillusioned Deaniacs could tip the election to George Bush, the man Dean grew famous for disparaging. "

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/02/04/deaniacs/index.html

[Gringo]

29. I was a Dean supporter, donor and volunteer untiol a month ago

and I'm far from disillusioned, and will GLADLY vote ABB. What a spurious article.

[molly]

63. I hope the article is wrong

however, I feel if Clark were the frontrunner the anger would be focused on him. It would be focused on ABD. We'll have to wait and see.

[GalleryGod]

53. However look at the 3rd Party (rail? Zap!) Posts?

No Doubt= Bruised Neophytes.:shrug:

Keep sending that $100. to Him rather than spending it on your Spouse or Family. Yeah,sure!:dunce:

[WillyT]

27. Shit... Vote Kerry - Then Get Raging Drunk !!!

:beer::smoke::puke::hangover:

[clyrc]

30. vote for him

and do everything I can to get him elected.

[Doomsayer13]

32. I will vote, donate, and campaign for him

everything in my power to rid this country of GW Bush

[Lugnut]

33. I'd have to hold my nose but....

Getting Bush on a bus back to Crawford is what's important.

[bobbyboucher]

34. I'd vote for JFK.

His middle name is Forbes, right? Maybe a little karmic revenge is in order.

[AntiCoup2K4]

40. Please don't dishonor a great President

By comparing him to a PNAC supported Bonesman.

[bobbyboucher]

41. So his middle name is Forbes,

I gather. Just wondering.

I too am suspicious about the "Bones" thing, yet am also curious as to whether it is not just a "frat" of sorts. A powerful one, but still a frat. Frat brothers help each other, dontcha know.

I've heard all the stories, but are the "Bonsies" really a collection of ill-meaning, money-grubbing, power stealing, whities? You tell me. I will listen for sure.

[AntiCoup2K4]

46. Let's put it this way: Junior's one of them. So's his daddy.

You know, George "Poppy" Bush, most successful heroin and cocaine smuggler in history. Founder of modern terrorism during his careers as CIA operative and "vice" President .

Then there's Grandpa Prescott Bush. The guy who bankrolled the Third Reich and made a tidy profit from a German steel company that used concentration camp slave labor.

Grandpappy's partners the Harrimans, they were in too. His lawyer and eventual CIA director Allan Dulles and his brother John.

Pretty much every sleazy, fucked up, treasonous thing our government has been involved in for the last 70 years or so can be traced back to these bastards. Do you really want to vote for another one of their kind?

[PVnRT]

35. Go on a seven-state killing spree

Jesus, what the hell do you think? :eyes:

[eridani]

36. He gets my vote

And probably I'll open my checkbook. I will most certainly not open my heart and soul.

[GalleryGod]

54. Perfectly- OK!

Don't be:+ :silly: There's too much at stake.

[AntiCoup2K4]

38. FUCK these loyalty oath threads!

If you guys are so goddamned sure of Kerry's "electability", then why the Hell are you demanding loyalty oaths 50 times a day?

There is NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING, you can say to me that will make me vote for anyone involved with Skull & Bones and PNAC.

Nobody tells me who to vote for. Certainly not the detestable shitballs at the DLC. Get over yourselves. :grr:

[KFC]

52. You will vote for Kerry.

It is OK. I'm sure you'll tell everyone you didn't.

[Edge]

39. Here's what I would do:

I'd get up, get dressed, bring my candy-ass to the polling place, and vote allllllllllllll the way for Kerry!

ABB 2004!

[PretzelzRule]

43. Vote for the nominee

As much as I'd hate to cast a vote for Kerry, who is now dead-last in terms of my personal preference with the demise of Lieberman, I would do so. Too much is at stake here...

[knight_of_the_star]

44. Vote

And pray, fast, do all the rituals I know and appeal to every God and Goddess I possibly can that Bush lose.

[eyeswideopened]

45. Vote for Kerry and Sadly realize I probably just voted for Bush

[cyclezealot]

47. Sit it out. Sort of..My money would go to the likes of Barbara Boxer.

Sit it out.. Too many angry calls to his office would continually haunt me. Exert zero energy for skull and bones'types.. Certainly with his pedigree,he does not need my money. I expect him to go right towards the General Election...Then I might not vote for him.
For the present goade Kucinich to fight for us to the last vote is counted..Kerry's present luck will have no effect on the forces that gave $9 million to Kucinich. Kerry is not convincing about trade issues,I expect Nader to run.
When will stupid American's stop believing that lie, that the WTO can be reformed. Never I guess. If only Dennis had more rebuttal time. No wonder McAuffie does not want the likes of Dennis Kucinich standing up there with fewer challengers debating Kerry..Such fabrications would not stand..
If it were not for Kucinich, Maybe I would be inclined to trust Clark on his conversions,of which I am skeptical.. A real American, which I like to think Clark might be, demands an end to the declining industrial base of this country.

[Lindsey]

48. I will vote

for whomever is running against * in November (a democrat). I'm fine with Kerry, Clark, Edwards, Dean, Sharpton, Kucinich.

[tedzbear]

49. I'll vote for Bush...

They're both about the same on the political spectrum. They're both shills for the United States military-industrial complex which is raping the world.

Maybe I'll write in Dennis Kucinich's name on the Nov. ballot.

:kick:

[Gadave]

55. I would vote for Kerry

Then throw up and take the longest shower of my life.

[NV1962]

56. Appeal to the UN to enforce a worldwide ban on pledges of allegiance! n/t

[Piperay]

57. Wholeheartedly support him

IF he gets the nomination.

[tameszu]

58. I'd work for an anti-Bush, pro-Dem 527

It's like working for Kerry without actually having to work for Kerry (or wear a Kerry button).

[mermaid]

59. I Didn't Vote In This Poll, Because My Option Isn't There

The option I select is

"I will hold my nose and vote Kerry"

Not because I'm for Kerry. But because I am ABB.

Kerry has taken a position on the Employment Non-Discrimination Act that has seriously angered me, as a transgender person, and, as a result, until he changes that position, he will NEVER get active support from me...EVER!!

When he is for a transgender-inclusive ENDA, he gets my active support. Till then, passive only.

since WHEN has ANY civil rights fight been free of controversy? Since WHEN did we, as Democrats, support a man who would send some to the back of the bus to avoid controversy? where did we, as a party, lose our principles to fight for the oppressed?

IMHO, Kerry is a linguine-spined sellout, who has sold me and my transgender sisters and brothers down the river, and banished us to the back of the bus! I VEHEMENTLY REFUSE to actively support such a man.

I hope someone send this to Kerry, so he will know how much he has angered people like me!

[maddezmom]

61. Vote for him

ABB for me in the GE :)

[Zynx]

62. Hold my nose and vote for Kerry.

[CWebster]

64. Switch my registration back to Green

Switched it from Dem to Green after the 2002 elections when it was apparent that the Dems were worthless. Switched it back to Dem with the emergence of Dean and the hope for change--just so I could vote in the PA primary. Now it is apparent that nothing has changed, the fix is in, the Republican wing rules, there is no place in this party for me, so I am gone and looking to build a new party for those who are no longer represented under the Democratic tent anymore.

[Cuban_Liberal]

66. I'll vote, work and donate. n/t

[rhite5]

67. Much too soon to answer that question.

Lest anyone forget, only 9 states have begun to get their delegates selected for the convention. And they are all pretty small states. There are 41 states left to go. Lots of things can happen.

Dean is certainly not out of the race. So whoever is saying he's changing his registration back to Green, HOLD UP on that! Dean right now has more delegates than Kerry does, I think. It is still anybody's ballgame. Now is the time to do all you can to support your real candidate selection with money and volunteer time.

Every campaign has jobs to be done, if your state's Primary is over, there are things that can be done for another state. Canvas in a neighboring state if you can, send postcards to voters, make phone calls from home. Your candidate's web page will tell you how to connect with planned next steps. That way what you choose to do will have the greatest impact.

Don't give up now. It is far from over.

[bigfishsmallpond]

69. If. I. can. stay. a. wake.

through his uplifting speeches I will suck it up and vote Democrat

[Tim_in_HK]

70. Light a candle, say a prayer . . .

and pull the switch.

And try to stay awake as I listened to Kerry drone on and on.