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Edge Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:31 PM
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I'm liking John Kerry as I listen to him right now...
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 11:33 PM by Edge
I hated him last week. I couldn't stand him. But right now, as he speaks, I'm feeling proud of him. I honestly feel he'll be our next president, even though I don't have him as my number one candidate. Mine is Edwards. I'd love to see a Kerry/Edwards ticket.

You can hate him all you want, but he's going to beat Bush....and he's going to beat him bad.

ABB 2004!
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Edge Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:35 PM
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1. .
:kick:
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wheresthemind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:37 PM
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2. I do not see the evil everyone else seems to...
he will make one hell of a president and Edwards will make a damn good one right after him!

I think he should give Dean a high posistion in the new party, that'd be classy.
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:38 PM
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3. he is a 48 state loser
new york and mass are his only states. He makes Al Gore look like a rock star. I've seen more inspiring speechs at a grade school.
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Edge Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:39 PM
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5. I was in the same boat you are in last week...
why so sour? He'll beat Bush. After all, that's what we all want, right?
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:40 PM
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6. no, he's no mondale or duke. he's the next president.
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Edge Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:40 PM
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7. Damn straight...
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:42 PM
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9. Feelin' Low?
Put a smile on kiddo, the Dems are winning!!!

:7

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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:39 PM
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4. I'd love to see it, too.
Kerry/Edwards...but, hey, ABB for me too!!

I'm proud to be a Dem tonight and any night.

24-7 I'm a Dem

But buckle up - Bush is going to try to smack us Dems around before this election is over

only 39 Tuesdays to go!!!
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:53 PM
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10. Yeah, well we're smackin' back!
No matter what he says about our nominee, we are not going to let him degrade our values anymore.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:41 PM
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8. If people listen to him with an open mind then they will warm up immedietl
immedietly.

At first long ago when I was a Dean supporter I really didn't like Kerry... looked kinda strange, seemed boring, etc etc.

When I finally sat down and listened to a townhall meeting of his I was floored. He spoke with confidence, had stature, had ideas, loved science and hope, was just excellent all the way around.

kerry is a strong canidate and if he does get the nomination we have A LOT to be proud of and a lot to be excited about.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 12:13 AM
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12. Yep
That's exactly what's happening. He is absolutely amazing.

And when you add Teresa and his kids into the mix, WOW!! Couple that with John and Elizabeth Edwards and their family, no way we can lose!
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 12:07 AM
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11. He's already been selected.Bush is to be retired,Sure,all of a sudden the
Edited on Wed Feb-04-04 12:08 AM by Algorem
media's talking about Bush's AWOLism,the morning paper has huge picture of flag-draped coffins on front page(An AIR FORCE PHOTOGRAPH),the trashing of Dean and ignoring of Clark....It's all fixed.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:41 AM
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13. Send them a president.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:52 AM
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14. Watch a townhall meeting
This was a pretty good speech, I just watched a repeat. But he's ten times better at townhall forums. That's when he really connects with people and makes you believe!!
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:40 AM
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15. He sounded good
I think Kerry and Edwards could be winning team, of course my first choice is still Clark. :-)
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shindig Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 06:32 AM
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16. well i don't hate anyone
except for maybe judy woodruff. But I'll tell you I squirmed a little when he said in his speech that the military is over-extended in Iraq, bad Bush, bad Bush, since he voted to authorize the war. And I squirmed a little when he talked about civil rights and privace, bad john ashcroft, while he voted for the patriot act. I guess that what makes him a pretty good politician. Unless, that is, the GOP is able to catch him in a few of whoppers. He seems a little prone to forget about what happened yesterday. I will conceed that he and other senators were under quite a bit of pressure immediately following 911. Perhaps he really thinks the patriot act is a bad thing. Or does he?
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:18 AM
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17. He's a cinch November loser with speeches like that
Two or three basic themes. Short sound bites. Much more smiling. Quit stepping on the audience applause. And for God's sakes how about a normal conversational tone, and not a stuffy preachy style that is virtually a parody of an insincere politician?

I like Kerry and am certain he will be our nominee. But my support for Edwards is 100% based on the style and appearance of the two men, as evidenced tonight. Edwards was brilliantly simplistic, uplifting and All-American, bringing tears to Dee Dee Myers and comparisons to Kennedy and Cuomo from our hero Joe Scarborough.

Then Kerry launched a laundry-list independent-repellant drone, and I literally had to change the channel in horror, identical to debate #1 in 2000 when Gore sighed away the presidency. I have hosted enough debate-watching dinners with apolitical friends to know how Kerry's speech would have played with them. Exit, stage right, once they woke up or returned from the bathroom.

Kerry's commercials may be terrific. He is indeed excellent in the town meeting format. In debates he is becoming more confident and therefore relaxed, even managing the winner short sound bite vs Dean last week, "...if you understand how Congress works..." But his speeches need to be sharpened and sliced in half, less is more. And with all that cash I would hire the best speech and style coach, ASAP.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:25 AM
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18. Kerry said we were "safer" with Saddam's capture
Kerry is a demagogue, and a warmongering demagogue at that!

Like everything that comes out of Kerry's double-talking mouth, Kerry's "safer" assertion is contradicted by the facts on the ground:

February 4, 2004
Iraqi Insurgency Is as Lethal as Ever Since Hussein's Capture
By Patrick J. McDonnell, Times Staff Writer


FALLOUJA, Iraq — Nearly two months after the capture of Saddam Hussein, the casualty rate among U.S. soldiers and Iraqis in insurgent attacks has accelerated, and much of this nation's Sunni Muslim heartland remains a perilous zone of conflict — with bouts of violence also striking the Kurdish north and the Shiite south.

The most recent spate of bloodshed includes bombings last weekend in the northern cities of Irbil and Mosul as well as last month's suicide attack outside the main U.S. compound in Baghdad, blasts that claimed well over 100 lives.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-fg-insurgency4feb04,1,1600821.story?coll=la-home-headlines

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=346028
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:36 AM
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19. Yep, and Dean was condemned for saying we weren't safer
Edited on Wed Feb-04-04 07:37 AM by CWebster
and Dean was right.

People are cowed by fear and induced to buy political lies. The truth is far too scary--they don't like their illusions shattered or to find out they've been deceived. They prefer to have their illusions of safety and truth, they don't want to be angry, anger is not good, anger is too honest, anger is too real, anger makes them insecure and afraid. They are manipulated through fear and that includes fear of truth. And politicians are afraid of the truth because then people may get angry....Don't worry, be happy.
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