What exactly happened in Pennsylvania's primaries??

[kentuck]

I heard that a couple of big gun Republicans got knocked off and they blamed it on a pay increase or something like that? I truly believe that the voters are tying every Republican to the coattails of George W Bush and that none of them are in safe seats, unless they are unopposed. By the time they realize what happened, it will be too late. They can sit on the porch with Dubya and shoot the shit.

[Oversea Visitor]

1. Guys I say US all blue

Just trust American people.
They awake and they angry

You no more minority
But majority
With seriously angry very angry people

Who are these angry people
Very Angry Dems
Very Angry Ind
VERY VERY VERY Angry Rep

Right now Standing as Republican is almost a gurantee LOSER.

[femmocrat]

2. Two leaders of the republican legislature were defeated in the PA

primary. One was the Senate majority leader and the other, the House majority leader. In addition, 20% of incumbents were defeated. Registered democrats and republicans are the only ones who are permitted to vote in the primary, so they were turned out by their own party. The big issue was the pay raise, so I'm not sure it had a lot to do with Bush. There was a well-organized campaign to "throw the bums out." The anti-legislature group would appear at the Capitol with large inflatable pigs! Many incumbents barely won their nominations, so it looks like more of them may be defeated in November. Pennsylvanians are just plain fed-up with their state legislature.

[kentuck]

3. But didn't the Democrats vote for the same pay raise ??

So....?

[femmocrat]

6. True.... but for whatever reason, the republicans paid for it!

They hold the majority in both houses, so they were identified as the bad guys, I suppose.

[MrSlayer]

7. Yes. And it doesn't matter because the Dems are from Philly.

For the most part. Philly politics aren't played the same way.

[Metta]

4. Long past overdue.

Those Republican hard line bastards have held this state by the short hairs for too long and we the people have suffered while they played. Chickens are coming home to roost.

[MrSlayer]

5. Well the state pols voted themselves a raise last year and pissed everyone

off. Last November the SC judge who upheld it got zapped and this past tuesday the senate majority leader got it along with several others. It isn't going to change much here in Pennsyltucky though, one puke is going to be replaced by another. Only the cities are blue here.

[femmocrat]

8. Yes.... I read or heard that some of the repukes who won the nominations

are more conservative than the current office-holders. It would be great if the democrats take back the legislature, but that remains to be seen in November. The T-counties in the center and northern tier of the state are very conservative, to be sure.

[creeksneakers2]

9. The legislative pay raise was behind it.

I can't get a definite number, but they knocked off about 16 state legislators. As far as I could find, all of them are GOP. So, the anger is definitely on the right and not on the left.

I listen to talk radio here. The GOP is angry about some other things too, mostly that all government, outside of those parts which deport, incarcerate or kill, hasn't been terminated.

Plus the wingers have their fairy tales. Most wingers are too angry to ever find out what the politicians are up against. Wingers believe there are nasty but simple and effective ways to solve all problems. The wingers seek out candidates who agree with them.

These candidates turn out to be those who have no experience governing.Once elected, the newly installed winger heroes gradually find out its not all as simple as they thought. The politicians change their views, and the wingers are again without representation.

Wingers say the guys they elect change because they are corrupted by the system. I'd like to ask them if there is another possible explanation for the fact that the more experienced a politician is, the less likely they are to agree with wingers.

A good part of the anti-incumbent mood in PA is just the wingers cyclical stomping out of anybody in office who knows what they are talking about. For the wingers, its better to do that than admit that they might be wrong.