Nancy Pelosi promised the corporate media Dems won't impeach? WTF?

[Pacifist Patriot]

From Democrats.com

Democratic House Leader Nancy Pelosi has instructed the Democratic Caucus and promised the corporate media that the Democrats will not impeach Bush and Cheney even if they win a majority in Congress. Of course, such timidity is the most likely way for the Democrats to not win a majority in Congress. While 90% of Democrats and 81% of Independents disapprove of Bush in the latest Harris poll, only 67% of Republicans approve of him. Every poll done on impeachment (http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/polling ) shows very strong support among Democrats and weak opposition among Republicans. Moreover, an off-year election is won by inspiring your "base" to turn out in higher numbers, and nothing inspires Democratic voters like impeachment.

Here's an article about Pelosi's position:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/pelosi

Here's where you can send her your own thoughts:
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Tell your own Representative and Senators to support impeachment:
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You've got to be kidding me? What kind of Democrat in their right mind would issue such an instruction? Bullshit! Break the law, get impeached. That's what we have a Constitution for, right?

And promising the media? Yeah, that's binding. Who are the media that politicians need to make such promises to? AAAGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JDPriestly]

1. So Bush is the only one to use the fear motivation effectively

Too bad. Nancy has lost her credibility. No one can predict whether a president will be impeached. You can't bargain away the provisions of the Constitution. One of those provisions provides for impeachment of the president. It can always happen. Surely there is some misunderstanding.

[Pacifist Patriot]

9. I guess that's what bothers me about it.

The certainty of an "instruction" and a "promise." I'd rather see a dodge along the lines of, "Our priorities right now are A,B, & C." (economy, terrorism, Iraq, energy, education...whatever) That way you present a positive message but don't rule anything out by not even getting into the debate at this time.

[Agony]

2. She can say whatever she wants.

If we take the House and Senate in '06 we have to impeach and convict both of them. If we don't one of them will pardon every Tom, Dick and Karl in the pen! Now what would be the point of letting that happen?

Don't get me wrong, I think this is a perfect example of "smart" politics. WE GET to play this both ways. She can claim that the dems won't bother to try and impeach chimpy and chimpette and then OOOPS those pesky out of control democrats! What will they do next. Come on people, this is a win - win!

[Tempest]

3. Exactly

Pelosi will not be able to control all the Democrats who have called for Bush's impeachment.

They will simply do an end around and ignore her.

And I'll applaud them for it.

[onehandle]

4. 50th time this has been posted since yesterday.

Does anyone use that search function?

[Pacifist Patriot]

8. Actually, I tried. I read through the most recent posts...

I did a search on Pelosi's name on the first two pages of this forum. I tried to do a search but the search function kept hanging up on me. If you don't want to read it again, than don't.

Thanks for the hand slap. Really appreciate it, truly.

[JDPriestly]

11. No. I browse through the recent postings.

I would not have known to search for this. DU is my source of news. I also read Raw Story. That's where I go first. Then DU. The whole idea of using search doesn't work if you don't know what to look for because you don't know what is going on. So what if we have dup threads. There are worse things. I kind of like the dups. I prefer dups to those super long, long threads in which half the comments say nothing.

[fooj]

5. Thanks for Nancy's link...here's my message ...

You DO NOT speak for me, Nancy. American people believe in accountability. Actions (or lack thereof) have consequences. No one is above the law. This president has committed at least a half dozen IMPEACHABLE offenses. How dare you publicly denounce impeachment when our country is founded upon the RULE OF LAW? What gives you that right?



Please remember that you are an ELECTED official. You speak for your constituents and I assure you that we are prepared to do whatever it takes to see that justice is served. The People are restless and they've had enough.



You can't have it both ways. You are either willing to uphold the rule of law or you are not. Which is it?



Do what it right, Nancy. Do your job. Californians will hold you accountable. Count on it.



Sincerely,

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Well, at least I got that off my chest...:banghead:

[Rose Siding]

21. And here's my unsubscribe message to Democrats.com

Unsubscribe, please. Here's why-

A promise of investigations is exactly appropriate from the minority leader. Here's what we know Nancy said-

Russert asked her: "Is impeachment off the table?''

Pelosi said, "Well, you never know where the facts take you, but -- for any president -- but that isn't what we're about. What we're about is going there and having high ethical standards, fiscal soundness and a level of civility that brushes away all this fierce partisanship.''

Pelosi is handling the impeachment issue as masterfully as she handled the announcement of Murtha's plan. Even though she agreed whole-heartedly, she calculated that he was the stronger messenger and was willing to take the heat for the sake of our goals.

Nancy is fully aware that the CA state legislature is already at work on a proposal for the impeachment of Bush, as are other states. It's a better plan than yours. Many voices within the Democratic caucus have ably kept the concept visible and credible. With her insistance on loyalty within that same caucus, can you really think she hasn't sanctioned that?

Please unsubscribe me from your list. I have no confidence in your judgement or in your ability to use this venue realistically to advance the cause of peace.

[wurzel]

6. Pelosi is using her head.

If she said anything else the impeachment of Bush will be the ONLY topic in the election. She is not stupid enough to let that happen.

[paulk]

7. the Republicans and their MSM lapdogs

desperately want Pelosi to say yes, the Democratic agenda will be impeachment if the Democrats retake the House. Their hope is that this will motivate their base to vote come November. Democratic voters will turn out this November no matter what. Will you sit at home this Nov. because of Pelosi's statement?

It has to be proven that Bush has broken the law. We need hearings, with subpoena power. The only way to get that is to win the House. Pelosi promised investigations if we win the House - and it's not unlikely that those investigations will lead to..... impeachment.

[padia]

10. Pelosi has to walk a line

for now, if she states impeachment that will be what the repugs use to incite their base right now they are losing the moderate factions & some stringent supporters from their base. Everybody on the left knows we are going to impeach Conyers said he is good to go from day one but we have to have our ducks in a row because even if we win every single Senate race we will still be 7 votes short of what we need to evict * from our house.

[Vidar]

12. I'm hoping she's bluffing,

[threadkillaz]

13. Sure she is.

Or else the corpmedia will use this against the dems, to scare the repubs from even thinking about voting dem in 06.

[diamondsndust]

14. For as many lies as this mis-administration and so called MSM..

has told us, don't we deserve to tell them a lie?? We don't have to tell those media whores ANYTHING about what we are doing. The MSM has become such a minor part of the news for a lot of us Democrats. We give them no creedence or credibilty. Anything we do tell them should be a lie, just so they would run with it and lose even more credibilty with the still viewing public.

I wish I could be the spokesman for the Party for a month. These goofball MSM reporters wouldn't know which way to turn next. It's time for a little bit of our own "shock & awe" ... with the repugs and the MSM as the targets.

[trof]

15. Good to take this issue from repugs now, before the election.

Plenty of time to 'reconsider' later.

[Lefty48197]

16. I'm sure Nancy Pelosi is a better leader than every one of her critics

Do you thing Nancy. I have faith in you.

[wyldwolf]

17. Some DUers must be terrible poker players

So Nancy Pelosi has said if the Democrats win the House, they won't pursue impeachment or investigation of President Bush.

She's bluffing.

Of course, some on Democratic Underground want her to show her hand to the world.

All I have to say, though, is be careful. Our last legally elected President had his highest approval ratings immediately after impeachment.

[Rose Siding]

18. I'd need to see the quote of any "promise" to the media

Here's what I KNOW she said (I saw it) and it's perfect, imo:

Russert asked her: "Is impeachment off the table?''

Pelosi said, "Well, you never know where the facts take you, but -- for any president -- but that isn't what we're about. What we're about is going there and having high ethical standards, fiscal soundness and a level of civility that brushes away all this fierce partisanship.''

[OzarkDem]

20. Doesn't sound like a "promise"

wonder how it came to be characterized as such?

[skeeters2525]

19. Deal With It, Both Sides Are Right

Some people are just sick of Bush and know he will be gone, hopefully. And what difference would President Cheney make. Let that term sink in.

And yes, Bush broke the law.

I am in favor of impeachment. But I also feel this Country has real problems the Dems need to point out.

It can't just be Bush is bad.

So cut Nancy some slack. Let's take back the House and Senate. Then worry about it.

NTW. By the time you go through the process, Bush will probably have a week left in office.