I think the dick, Cheney is sick. My opinion only based on experience.

[caledesi]

The first time I saw the pic of Cheney sleeping, I wasn't too concerned, but after the second one...well, I definitely think he is ill.

I have mentioned this before on a couple of threads, so bear with me. I used to work with a super guy, hard worker and brilliant engineer. Sat right behind me. Suddenly he started falling asleep at his desk which was most unusual. He was always tired and then his "sleeping" went from once a week, to more than twice. Finally, he went to the doctor. His kidneys were failing. Don't want to make this morbid, but the truth is that this occurred in the 70s and he went on dialysis, then 2 kidney transplants and eventually died of a heart attack; he was only 32. Very sad indeed.

Point is that I recognize w/ Cheney that "can't control the sleeping" look. He looks bad.

[BrklynLiberal]

1. I hope he has the fate he deserves.

[rzemanfl]

5. The fate he deserves is to be screaming in unbearable pain,

not nodding off.

[Nite Owl]

12. ...And caught in that 'donut hole'

in the Medicare Rx plan and not have enough money to buy the pain killers, between screams he can be on the phone on hold calling the doctor begging for his meds.

[BrklynLiberal]

17. What I had in mind was far from pleasant. :D

[JuniperLea]

6. Well said. n/t

[acmavm]

2. Not bad enough...

[Inland]

3. He can't be sick. He's been dead for years.

The slumping is merely a sign he needs to soak in his specially prepared vat of chemicals and human blood.

Stop spreading rumors.

[MADem]

4. He should be sick--his ass is in a sling

They just released notes about how he was up to his ass in the Plame business...he's under attack from all sides.

Nixon used phebitis to get out of testifying...the bionic Deadeye will likely use health issues to stay off the stand too.

[speedoo]

13. Cheney is toast.

His sorry ass is most definitely in a sling. Fitz has him in his cross hairs:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1178871

[diamondsndust]

22. if they aren't fit for the stand, they aren't fit to continue in office ..

just my opinion. This should really be raised as an issue when these corrupt scum suckers try to pull this crap. If a few days on the stand is detrimental to your health, surely it must be worse trying to take care of your day to day job requirements.

[MADem]

25. Oh, hell, he'll use the "I'm too busy in a time of war" excuse while

still in office! A variant of the Soldiers and Sailors Civil Relief Act. That's good for six months to a year of delaying, even if initially denied, the appeal process can go on at least that long...it's only after he's out of a job that the "I'm SIIIIICK!" excuses come into play!!!

[Karenca]

7. Well, I hope you are right........nt

[Loge23]

8. we know he's rotten from within

It's only a matter of time before karma takes over.

[napi21]

9. There are other things that can cause falling asleep during the day.

I have a cousin who has sleep apnea. Even has a breathing machine he is hooked up to at night. You would never know he has any problems, unless a group is sitting around and the conversation ends up being between 2 or 3 people in the group. Suddenly he's asleep just like Cheney. I'm sure there are mano other ailments that cause "falling asleep during the day", and I agree, it does seem like something is wrong with Unka Dick.

Maybe he can't sleep at night because of all the evile things he's done? Naw, that can't be it!

[caledesi]

14. Why "suddenly" is he nodding off? This never happened before,

or at least we didn't have pics of it. He looks like he is dead and someone forgot to bury him. I hope he suffers like all the troops have suffered, only worse.

Bastard.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

10. He's held together by duct tape and baling wire...if any of us regular

folks had his medical conditions and drank alcohol and didn't exercise, we'd be dead or close to.

We don't have the advantage of a 7 day/24 hour Coronary Care Unit at our beck and call. MKJ

[catnhatnh]

11. A man so evil.....

...even his internal organs refuse to support him....

[MrBenchley]

15. An ambulance and medical team follows him 24/7

One of the many fascinating facts that came out in the aftermath of Deadeye Dick getting shitfaced and shooting that guy in the face.

[OneTwentyoNine]

31. Yeah,lucky for the guy that deadeye shot..........

There was medical attention within seconds,who knows what might have happened otherwise...

[MrBenchley]

33. I've often wondered if the delay in reporting

wasn't because Cheney was drunk, but because they were hoping the gunshot victim could kick off and they could say it was because he tripped and his own gun went off.

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[Golden Raisin]

18. Bravo!

Only thing I disagree with you on is the "old fool". This guy knew and knows exactly what he's doing 24/7. It's all deliberate, all pre-meditated, all well thought out. A cold-blooded SOB who plays for keeps. Halliburton profit & stock price is more important to him than the lives/blood of our slaughtered soldiers, or our civil liberties at home. His actions aside --- just take a good long look (if you can stand it) at all those pictures of him with that permanent sneer/snarl on his face. If he truly is ill now --- too effin' bad.

[SharonAnn]

26. Yes, he's a "Super Predator". Like the Mother Jones article.

[calimary]

19. What did I miss?

Has he been falling asleep in public? Where've I been? Reagan used to do it all the time.

My mom is old, bad heart, low resistance, weak and anemic. She has to take lots of naps because she's tired. But then again, she isn't a supremely evil being like cheney is.

[caledesi]

20. Yeah, I believe the first time was when the leader of China was there!

There's another one recently...looks the same. I think he died and someone forgot to bury him.

[miseeire]

21. Reflection...Cheney is not sick,it's the Liberals

This man is deep in a refective mood,that is a bible he holds so dear,He is the American Dream,a man of condiderable insight and compassion.
He is reading Proverbs 35 verse 24 : "let there be light...so that I may see for miles"

[diamondsndust]

23. BWAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA... Too freakin' funny!!

you had me going there for a minute! :rofl:

[calimary]

41. Thanks!

I also saw something on this, finally. Twice now, he's dozed off in his dinner. It's hard work fucking everybody over for your own sense of power and invincibility, isn't it?

[Dan]

24. then J.Bush will be vice president sooonnnnnn

[tirechewer]

27. Yes, he is sick....

Catch the interview with him in the latest Vanity Fair. It's got good content. It shows just how crazy Cheney is and probably always was. It goes a little bit into his physical health, which you can see is deteriorating. He is grossly overweight, a bad thing for a heart patient, has stopped adhering to a heart healthy diet and eats lots of salt. His shoe size has increased which means that he has edema in his feet and legs, a sign of congestive heart failure. He looks ten to fifteen years older than his age.

My mother had congestive heart failure and for the last two years or so before she succumbed to a stroke, her legs and feet were enlarged even though she did follow a heart healthy diet, avoid salt and take powerful heart medications including a strong diuretic to combat the edema. She also wore a pacemaker, just like Cheney does, and used oxygen. She declined gradually despite her and her doctor's best efforts to maintain her, and her heart was never as bad as Cheney's. I think he is in a lot of trouble and has stopped trying to help himself. Oh, and to answer the original post, my mother also fell asleep a lot. The congestive heart failure put so much strain on her heart that she simply tired our very quickly. That is a symptom of a badly damaged and failing heart.

[kaye45]

35. could also be medication side effects

this mans medical picture does not look good

[tirechewer]

40. It could be...

When you read about the four heart attacks and the pacemaker and the fact that they had to open up arteries in his legs by putting in metal stints instead of bypassing the aneurysms in his knees with veins, you realize just how bad he is. They had to strip out his leg veins to use them for bypasses when he had heart surgery, so his circulation to his lower extremities is pretty bad.

They estimate he has gained about 65 pounds recently. For someone with his health problems, that is not a good idea. I wonder if he realizes what he is doing to himself, or even cares.

[calimary]

42. Perhaps he's given up? That's how it went with my dad, when his

diabetes became too overwhelming. He pretty much said (with his actions, that is) "the hell with it." What that meant was: bring on the candy. Bring on the doughnuts. Bring on all the shit he wasn't supposed to be eating. Who cared anymore? Well, we all did, but he just gave up. I suspect that, a couple of years before he died, some doctor had told him straight to his face that he was going to lose his legs to poor circulation. He refused. Just accepted life in a wheelchair and kept on eating. It killed him, but maybe he didn't see any point by then. Whatever.

Do you suppose perhaps cheney suspects the jig is up and what the fuck? Maybe as he's reaching advancing age (compounded by the heart disease that's aging him faster anyway), and sees his body failing him, he too has decided to say "the hell with it." Toward the end, for my dad, my mom even gave up trying to help him eat better and smarter. It just was no use. So she made the homemade jam and made sure he had his candy bars, I guess, because by then, eating was really the only thing that gave him any pleasure. It also killed him. Perhaps this is where cheney finds himself now. Besides, if he has ANY inkling at all of what might await him on the other side, maybe he REALLY is living into the "aw, hell, what's the use anyway?" attitude. I can see where THAT might make one despondent enough to drown in one last big hurrah of gluttony. It may well be the only thing that feels good anymore. Perhaps everything else he's "accomplished" has become bitter, empty, and meaningless. Wouldn't THAT be some kind of karma?

[tirechewer]

43. I'm sorry about your Dad....

My Dad was Diabetic too, and he did much the same thing as yours. It ran in cycles. He had three heart attacks and 6 bypasses when his arteries got so clogged that only one left him with any circulation to his heart. The bypass operation scared him bad enough that for a while, he did everything he was supposed to do, then he just gave up again. The more we tried to get him to take care of himself, the harder he resisted. He flat out told us that he didn't care anymore. He couldn't do any of the things he liked to do, and he refused to find alternatives, so he neglected himself until he had a final acute heart attack that killed him. So, believe me I know where you've been, and I'm really sorry.

I do think that in many ways Cheney could have given up. In the Vanity Fair article he describes waking up after his really bad heart attack at age 37 and being aware that he could die. I think he's pretty aware of how bad his health is and maybe doesn't care. But I noticed in both him words and in my Dad's attitude a kind of fatalism. My Dad didn't believe in an afterlife. For him this world was all there was, so he was scared but resolute. I got the impression that Cheney doesn't believe in anything but this life either. He goes through it doing and taking anything he wants and at anyone's expense. I don't know what to call it, maybe Karma, but there does seem to be some kind of payback to how you live and what you do. You don't always see it right away, and maybe it doesn't come for a long, long time, but eventually you get back what you give either for good or evil.

Cheney comes through in what I have read of him as bitter, cynical and life hating. Maybe if you hate your own life as much as he hates his, you find it impossible to have any kindness for anyone else. That would be a hard world to live in. I think people need kindness and a soft place to land at times. That's why I have so much trouble with the hard right wingers. They seem to lack empathy and the ability to understand anyone else's pain except for their own. Who could live like that and be truly happy?

[caledesi]

And my co-worker who had the failing kidneys was bloated too.

Go figure. BTW, he eventually died of a heart attack. Sound familiar.

Poor Cheney....gee I feel so sorry for him because he's lived such a moral life. :sarcasm:

[caledesi]

37. And my co-worker who had the failing kidneys was bloated too.

Go figure. BTW, he eventually died of a heart attack. Sound familiar.

Poor Cheney....gee I feel so sorry for him because he's lived such a moral life. :sarcasm:

[tirechewer]

39. Yeah....

If your friend's kidneys were failing it would have affected his whole body. I'm sorry he died.

That is not a pleasant way to go. A man that I worked with had kidney failure and then a failed transplant. He had to go back on dialysis. He looked sick and was lethargic much of the time. He is alive, but he had to retire from work and he is still getting dialysis.

Cheney looks like he is having a whole body meltdown. His weight is way up. One of the pictures in the Vanity Fair article shows him sitting opposite Rumsfeld. They are shaped like toads, very gut heavy. It's not pretty. ;)

The article itself shows that Cheney is barking crazy, cold and evil. No one they asked about him except his family likes him very well. He is like a black whole sucking in all of the light and energy around himself.

[henslee]

28. Cheney's disappearances for long stretches could be due to his

getting medical attention -- like dialysis, maybe.

[caledesi]

38. Good point. And after dialysis, one is usually very tired. nt

[radfringe]

29. we only have two reports of him being caught napping

but it makes you wonder how many other times it has occured and not reported...

question: If cheney leaves "for health reasons" and Rove leaves "for indictment reasons" who will be the new bush puppetmaster and the new bush brain?

[Agony]

30. Hey, this slightly off topic...but

Why is that you can use a post title with the word "di*k" in it and not get flamed for it, but if (like recently) a poster uses the "pu**y" word in a title all hell breaks loose? Just askin?

I mean come on...you are implying that my dick is inherently evil by comparing it to Richard Cheney. Right?

oh god what have i done

[saltpoint]

32. 'Wonder if the Vice President is on heavy sedatives? It seems as if he

loves power too much to fall asleep in Cabinet/Staff meetings.

Maybe he knows he is implicated in Fitzgerald's inquiry and has been numbing himself with hog tranquilizer.

[cliss]

34. Cheney is tired.

He feels that the waters are shark-infested. He has to fight them off. If he was, say, 20 years younger, he could have engaged in a spirited battle and probably walked away the winner.

Now?

He's tired. It's interesting about the photo that was released on Friday where he's sitting next to Bush, supposedly sawing logs. I'm not sure if he's sleeping. He could be just resting his eyes and gathering his thoughts before the next waves crashes upon the rocks of this administration.

But what's more interesting is his posture. He looks hunched over. He holds his hands clasped together, even though his chair obviously has arms where he can rest his hands. But instead, he clasps his hands tightly together, directly over his heart. It's almost as if he's trying to protect his heart from the never-ending onslaught of his castle made of sand.

Also, he's obviously gained weight. This tells me that he's doing a lot of comfort eating. Probably rich food, like Lobster Thermidor with Béarnaise sauce. His skin has always been pale from hiding out, living in his 'Bat Cave' like people joke around about. His hair has turned snow white. But his skin is really pale nowadays.

I noticed it very clearly when he went to Fox news to do his "apology" stint about shooting the attorney in the face. Cheney was walking outside the White House to go make his appearance. He had his 'body double' at his side (= a lookalike in case of snipers). He looked like someone who had just been let out of a dungeon. His face was extra white in that bright sunshine. Mary Matalin was obviously a nervous wreck. If you look closely, you can see what's going on.

I'll give him 2 -3 months tops.

[leftofthedial]

36. I fear he won't live long enough

to suffer as much as he deserves

[No Exit]

44. If so, here's hoping it's something painful.

Okay, go ahead and flame me. I was just telling you all what I'm REALLY thinking.