Is it time for a couple of Big Republicans to walk over to the White House

[kentuck]

....a la when Richard Nixon was president, and succinctly inform Junior that it's time for him to step down? In other words, pack your shit and rent a U-Haul. He has lost the confidence of his Party and of America. And his weakness is a millstone around the neck of the Republican Party. They cannot escape his incompetence. His failures are "nationalizing" the elections in November. They must either carry him across the finish line and count their losses or dump him now. Just like they did to Richard Nixon. "Mr President, it's time to go", they said then. And that is what they must say now if they wish to have a hope of surviving November. They know it needs to be done, but none of them have the balls.

[NVMojo]

1. yeah, where in the hell are those big Republicans??

[Erika]

2. They are Republican rubber stampers loving the tax cuts

for the rich. When was the last time you ever heard a word from Republicans about concern for the working class? It was W in 2000 in his campaign lies.

[pnwmom]

3. There is no such thing anymore as a Big Republican.

[Dunvegan]

4. I'll accept a couple of Justice Boys and Fitz for the job also.

[sushi]

5. Is it possible?

History could repeat itself! When Nixon announced he was leaving he was srrounded by his wife and two daughters. * has a wife and two daughters!

[rzemanfl]

6. Let all of them go down, none of them deserve to survive

(politically) and I begrudge them the oxygen they waste breathing too, but this board has rules....

[Viva_La_Revolution]

7. NO!!!

They know if they get rid of Shrub, Cheney is in charge, and that scares the beejezus out of them as much as it does us.

They need to make Darth resign first, replace him with someone semi-acceptable, then tell Chimpy to rent that U-haul.

[Coastie for Truth]

23. That is the sticking point

Cheney is the scary one.

[KeepItReal]

8. I'll chip in on that U-Haul, George....holla!

B-)

[CPMaz]

13. Agreed. I've never donated to a Rep cause,

but for this one???

No problem....

[longship]

9. Not gonna happen.

The only way this is going to happen is if Dems take over and hold hearings, exposing the corruption, the unconstutitional behavior, and the outright crimes. Then, the people will insist. That's the way it happened in 1974. Something similar will have to happen this time, too.

Hell, the most serious Nixon constitutional crisis, the Saturday Night Massacre, happened almost ten months before Nixon resigned. These things take time. Unfortunately, the Dems have been powerless to stop ChimpCo with the rubber stamp Repug lock on power.

[iconoclastic cat]

10. Forget it, George.

[regnaD kciN]

11. Wishful thinking...

Those "big Republicans" made that walk because it was clear to everyone in (the Democratic-controlled) Congress that the votes were there to impeach and convict, and that there was thus no point in drawing out the inevitable.

Now, Congress is Republican-controlled. And, even if every Senate race this November goes Democratic (a near-impossibility), we won't have anywhere near the votes to convict in the Senate without a whole bloc of Republicans jumping ship. And they won't do that unless there is general outrage at Bush's "high crimes and misdemeanors." And that won't happen until we dig up much, much more on them. And that won't happen until we can hold Congressional hearings with subpoena power. And that won't happen until we control at least one branch of Congress.

If that whole chain of events (all of which were present in the Congress running from 1972-74) comes to pass, you may see Republican leaders taking the walk up Pennsylvania Avenue. Until then, not a chance.

[Erika]

14. There is general outrage by the conservatives against Bush

Right now, many are willing to not vote because of their disdain of W's policies.

If they can impeach Clinton because of a private consensual matter between two adults, they certainly can get up their dander about W, or admit Clinton was a victim of a witch hunt.

[AndyTiedye]

19. Even Nixon Could Not Have Been Impeached Without SOME Republican Votes

It takes 2/3 in the Senate.

[DearAbby]

12. TIme now in all fifty states is to introduce

state level impeachment, I don't see the big Repugs going to the White house to tell the wanna be emperor that it is time to pack his shit and git. Some reason those slugs are afraid of the cabal...could be the NSA struck gold, in the data mining of their phones, Can we say BLACKMAIL?? :shrug:

Just in case, there should be a national no confidence vote, and that can be if there is more states that introduce impeachment.

[Brigid]

15. That was more than 30 years ago.

Nixon at least had the moral fortitude to resign. And the Republicans had the guts to tell him to do it. Today, that kind of integrity is gone.

[dweller]

16. you mean, sorta like this?

GWH Bush memo to Nixon:

" Dear Mr. President,
It is my considered judgment that you should now resign. I expect in your lonely embattled position this would seem to you as an act of disloyalty from one you have supported and helped in so many ways. My own view is that I would now ill serve a President whose massive accomplishments I will always respect and whose family I love, if I did not now give you my judgment. Until this moment resignation has been no answer at all, but given the impact of the latest development, and it will be a lasting one, I now firmly feel resignation is best for the country, best for this President. I believe this view is held by most Republican leaders across the country. This letter is much more difficult because of the gratitude I will always have for you. If you do leave office history will properly record your achievements with a lasting respect. "


http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/presidents/george-hw-bush/


dp

[inthebrain]

17. That's never gonna happen

They invested waaaaay too much money to do that.

Also there was much more civil unrest during Nixon's time.

[Stinky The Clown]

18. Kentuck ... the honorable Republicans ...... or even the less-than-

honorable ones who are only concerned with party and not cultism, are as out of power as we are.

The Republican 'big guys' of today are no 'big guys' like the old timers were.

It doesn't take a 'big guy' to weild a rubber stamp.

Just ask John McCain.

[Contrary1]

20. Wouldn't matter a bit if they did...

The Decider would decide not to step down. He thinks God has put
him in the WH. No mere mortal will be able to convince him to go.

[badgerpup]

22. James Earl Jones...Jeffrey Holder...Shadoe Stevens...

I'm trying to think of people who have rich, deep, resonant voices that are usually associated with the Christian god.
Shouldn't be a problem to put across subliminal messages regarding resignation, what with the White House bugged as it is, and Bush wired for sound whenever he gives a speech...
ya think? :think:

[MADem]

21. Why do I feel that Trent Lott would enjoy being among their number?

The way the WH hung him out to dry, and cut him loose to install their boy Fritz, I'd imagine he'd have a spring in his step as he went to do that momentous duty.

[BlueManDude]

24. They're all frigging zombies. n/t

[saltpoint]

25. kentuck, the scenario you propose suggests "the right thing to do,"

which is why I'm wary that the Republican Party can pull it off. For them, the agenda is never "the right thing to do," but "the Right thing to do."

It could also be that the White House has made some deep enemies in the Congress over the last 6 years, and they may be willing to cover their own fannies while the Bush camp goes down in flames. Dubya has strong-armed a lot of people in the Congress, and punished those who defied him. Now that his poll numbers are in the toilet, the talk among their ranks may be, "Well, hell, let the little monster drown. Most of our Senate seats are safe. He made his bed, he can lie in it."

Richard Lugar. Pete Domenici. John Warner. They would be some of the elder GOP guys. But I don't see them doing much along the line you suggest. They might be doing it behind the scenes, or they may have decided among themselves that they're the inheritors of the party's mantle if Dubya's reign is over with.

The GOP would not turn to Jeb Bush if his older brother is found complicit in so many unethical undertakings, and so many failed policies. It looks to me like they've decided that stubborn, defiant Dubya is getting what he paid for.

[Totally Committed]

26. And after this come-to-Jesus moment,

what then? Dick Cheney as President? The man's a bigger freakoid than Bus, and more dangerous, because he actually has a brain in his head (and all of PNAC behind him).

If Cheney is impeached... President Hastert?????????

Ugh.

It just goes from bad to worse to worst. Face it, they have us boxed in. I perosnally hope he stays in office at 25%-29% approval for the next three years with a Democratic House and Senate on his case the entire time.

TC

[MoonRiver]

27. Way past time, if you ask me,

which I guess you did, sorta :D.