Kerry supporters brace yourself, here it comes

[jpgpenn]

In the last few minutes the media has started the new pumping game. They are now slowy attacking Kerry ( special interests etc. ) and saying how *Bush would have such a hard time beating Edwrads. This is so laughable, it's a script outa Rove's handbook! First they get Clark outa the way now they will systematically dismantle Kerry leaving Bush to go up against probably the weakest candidate we have in the party.

Edwards has zero, nothing, nadda to go up against the slime in our White House. Edwards has a weak at best domestic history, he has no world affairs experience at all, he will have severe problems explaining all the trial lawyer special interest money.

When is everyone finally going to wake up to what is happening to our Democratic process?

[David Dunham]

1. Kerry Will Win 5 or 6 of 7 tonight and that's the Big Mo

[jpgpenn]

2. Thats tonight friend...

It's the days ahead i'm giving you a heads up on!

[PretzelWarrior]

3. you give Rove WAYYYY too much credit. the media are idiots.

they don't want to do anything except put on a beauty contest/horse race. anything more substantive wouuld be too taxing to the sheep watching the boob tube (now a literal phrase--lol).

Edwards win his home state. Kerry is strong second. Kerry slam dunks Missouri--a bellweather state...Delaware...big win for Kerry.

It is over except for the crying for everyone else.

Oklahoma will be close amongst Kerry/Edwards/Clark.

No matter. The delegate map for primaries really favors Kerry.

[John_H]

29. This line of thinking is dangerously false.

It'd be great if Rove and the Ho's were idiots, but they're not.

Reporters are totally cowed by the bush administration--who can make and break careers with access--and by their bosses' bosses, who are among Chimp's greatest supporters.

They do the bidding of the White House and their bosses up in corporate as if their careers depend on it. Because they do.

[TheDonkey]

4. The media is ignoring Clark and Kerry's victories tonight!

Kerry won a landslide in Missouri and Deleware
and Clark doing VERY well in Oklahoma for a campaign that's just getting in gear.

Edwards is getting all the coverage for his backyard victory.

[BruinAlum]

5. I think you underestimate Edwards appeal with the voting public

I think the Bush camp would least like to go up against Edwards or Kerry

[Cuban_Liberal]

7. I agree.

he's their worst nightmare.

[jpgpenn]

8. I think you over estimate ...

The vibe many of us LIFE LONG Dems pick up fron Edwards. Goodhearted guy with good intenions but sadly has really nothing in the area of National leadership or really any leadership from what i have tried to find.

[Cuban_Liberal]

10. I'm also a LIFE LONG Dem.

And I get good vibes.

[mlawson]

16. I have been a Dem political junkie since 1960. I know a winner

when I see one, and Edwards is a winner. What did GWB, Clinton or Carter have in 'national leadership'??? Or Lincoln or FDR, for that matter?

[BruinAlum]

26. I prefer Kerry, but this lifelong Dem gets good vibes from Edwards

What matters is the majority of the voting public, and Edwards polls well up against Bush (as does Kerry), unlike the other candidates.

[dorktv]

6. I should have prayed for a Sharpton second in SC. ;)

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

9. And the NEXT person who has the opportunity to respond to the

"special interest" question as Dean had the other day should make it very clear that the energy bill, bankruptcy reform, overtime pay reductions, the absence of meaningful healthcare, the medicare bill and every other Bush program were ALL a byproduct of quid pro quo...and they should bring up the bribery charges being leveled against the Republicans about the medicare bill.

[Nashyra]

15. a 3way tie

they can not spit it out. The media are just f*&^%$ whores.

[Southsideirish]

11. Media doesn't care a whit about us or the U.S. - want a "horse race"

-it makes their jobs easier. They are monsters, and very powerful in their ability to sway people who do not bother keep themselves informed, i.e. the "lumpen."

[sandnsea]

12. Divide and conquer

No matter what, we need to remember it's divide and conquer scorched earth strategy.

We can win with Clark, Kerry OR Edwards. No doubt in my mind.

[BeyondGeography]

13. The gushing over Edwards is unseemly

This is all about keeping the horse race going. Kerry will win 5 or 6 states tonight to Edwards' 1, and Edwards will be spun as the big winner.

It's absurd.

[Straight Shooter]

14. Check out The Economist web site and read their article on the WH view

They most definitely view Edwards as a threat. They've got their ammunition all ready and waiting for Kerry, but with Edwards there isn't much to attack him with.

http://economist.com/world/na/displayStory.cfm?story_id=2388532

Edit: the photo is from the article

[Nashyra]

17. They don't have amunition on Clark

and he has the big guns where it comes to foreign policy and diplomacy

[jpgpenn]

20. BINGO!

[jpgpenn]

19. "Edwards as a threat" ..lets start with...

Would you trust this man ( Edwards ) in this day and age of terror and rouge nations gain nuclear capability?

On Harball jus a lil while ago Joe Scarsboro was so pouring the gravy on Edwards so bad it was sickening. I mean come on guy, let's take a look at the big picture here.

[Cuban_Liberal]

21. We have seen 'the big picture'

It says that John edwards is the best candidate our party can filed against George Bush in '04.

[Cocoa]

31. Fineman too

Fineman's lame spin: Kerry technically won more states, and bigger states, but Edwards "captured the debate" or some nonsense like that.

Luckily, Kerry can beat Edwards, pretty easily imo. I like Edwards, but he's very vulnerable, and no one has really gone after him at all.

[jpgpenn]

32. ooo they will

once they know they did their job and got him in!

[ShaneGR]

18. Lets see if Clark wins OK, then talk

We'll see.

[Taeger]

27. Early results

Early results have Clark ahead in Oklahoma. Clark is also coming in second in North Dakota.

There is no doubt that Kerry is the big winner tonight. But the other candidates are by no means eliminated. As the move farther south and west, Clark and Edwards will continue to gain. Indeed, Clark came in second in South Carolina.

To me, the most likely scenario could be a Kerry with the most delegates but not enough for the nomination. If Clark and Edwards are close behind, they could combine their delegates and take the nomination away from Kerry.

That's actually my hope. Clark-Edwards 2004!!!!!!! You have the older soldier/statemen and the young gun with a razor tongue.

[jpgpenn]

30. not over yet

but I think you get my post.

[Tim_in_HK]

22. I disagree

Clark supporter here, but I think WH doesn't want to run against (in order of least to most):

Edwards
Clark
Dean
Kerry

Edwards is a natural politician. He's got zero nat'l security experience, but he's so good I think he could get around that.

Kerry is gonna be a slog for us, if he gets the nod.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

23. Maybe, but Kerry's Missouri win is HUGE 50% is serious stuff

especially for such a critical GE state.

[jpgpenn]

24. it's what goes on AFTER TONIGHT!

[Tim_in_HK]

25. Look, Kerry has been impressive

since IA and NH. But at this point I have zero faith in his ability to handle Bush.

He folded like a chair in the summer on the issue of Iraq. What's gonna happen if he gets the nod and everyone comes at him?

Kerry has made some lucky strategic decisions, and the fact that most of the major candidates either imploded (Dean) or made some campaigning mistakes (Clark) can't be underestimated.

I'll start to have more faith in Kerry after he has a few more trials by fire. He's been riding the front-runner idea all the way.

[dansolo]

33. As soon as someone else is viewed as "electable"

The Kerry support will diminish. Kerry has been riding the ABB sentiment, but it will work against him if Bush's numbers keep dropping, and it looks like Bush is not so formidable.

[John_H]

28. They spin with IMPUNITY, Folks. What are we going to do about it?

They spin for Roves preferred candidates and bash everyone else, obviously, shamelessly, unsubtly, insultingly. First they push Dean, and now that Dem voters have rejected Dean, they'll start pushing Edwards.

I'm not talking about whether they are wrong or right that Edwards, or Dean, or Kerry or anyone else will be easy to beat. That';s not the main issue. The main issue is that they spin with impunity, throwing it in our faces.