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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 06:51 PM
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Telcos could be liable for tens of billions of dollars
Telcos Could Be Liable For Tens of Billions of Dollars For Illegally Turning Over Phone Records

This morning, USA Today reported that three telecommunications companies – AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth – provided “phone call records of tens of millions of Americans” to the National Security Agency. Such conduct appears to be illegal and could make the telco firms liable for tens of billions of dollars. Here’s why:

1. It violates the Stored Communications Act. The Stored Communications Act, Section 2703(c), provides exactly five exceptions that would permit a phone company to disclose to the government the list of calls to or from a subscriber: (i) a warrant; (ii) a court order; (iii) the customer’s consent; (iv) for telemarketing enforcement; or (v) by “administrative subpoena.” The first four clearly don’t apply. As for administrative subpoenas, where a government agency asks for records without court approval, there is a simple answer – the NSA has no administrative subpoena authority, and it is the NSA that reportedly got the phone records.

2. The penalty for violating the Stored Communications Act is $1000 per individual violation. Section 2707 of the Stored Communications Act gives a private right of action to any telephone customer “aggrieved by any violation.” If the phone company acted with a “knowing or intentional state of mind,” then the customer wins actual harm, attorney’s fees, and “in no case shall a person entitled to recover receive less than the sum of $1,000.”

(The phone companies might say they didn’t “know” they were violating the law. But USA Today reports that Qwest’s lawyers knew about the legal risks, which are bright and clear in the statute book.)

3. The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act doesn’t get the telcos off the hook. According to USA Today, the NSA did not go to the FISA court to get a court order. And Qwest is quoted as saying that the Attorney General would not certify that the request was lawful under FISA. So FISA provides no defense for the phone companies, either.

In other words, for every 1 million Americans whose records were turned over to NSA, the telcos could be liable for $1 billion in penalties, plus attorneys fees. You do the math.

Telcos Could Be Liable For Tens of Billions of Dollars For Illegally Turning Over Phone Records

This morning, USA Today reported that three telecommunications companies – AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth – provided “phone call records of tens of millions of Americans” to the National Security Agency. Such conduct appears to be illegal and could make the telco firms liable for tens of billions of dollars. Here’s why:

1. It violates the Stored Communications Act. The Stored Communications Act, Section 2703(c), provides exactly five exceptions that would permit a phone company to disclose to the government the list of calls to or from a subscriber: (i) a warrant; (ii) a court order; (iii) the customer’s consent; (iv) for telemarketing enforcement; or (v) by “administrative subpoena.” The first four clearly don’t apply. As for administrative subpoenas, where a government agency asks for records without court approval, there is a simple answer – the NSA has no administrative subpoena authority, and it is the NSA that reportedly got the phone records.

2. The penalty for violating the Stored Communications Act is $1000 per individual violation. Section 2707 of the Stored Communications Act gives a private right of action to any telephone customer “aggrieved by any violation.” If the phone company acted with a “knowing or intentional state of mind,” then the customer wins actual harm, attorney’s fees, and “in no case shall a person entitled to recover receive less than the sum of $1,000.”

(The phone companies might say they didn’t “know” they were violating the law. But USA Today reports that Qwest’s lawyers knew about the legal risks, which are bright and clear in the statute book.)

3. The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act doesn’t get the telcos off the hook. According to USA Today, the NSA did not go to the FISA court to get a court order. And Qwest is quoted as saying that the Attorney General would not certify that the request was lawful under FISA. So FISA provides no defense for the phone companies, either.

In other words, for every 1 million Americans whose records were turned over to NSA, the telcos could be liable for $1 billion in penalties, plus attorneys fees. You do the math.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 06:54 PM
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1. Ouch. Guess my rates will be going up.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 06:55 PM
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2. I'm switching
to the first phone service that
will GUARANTEE my right to privacy
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 07:01 PM
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3. Well this is one way to return the money the administration has stolen...
...back to the people.

Since it WAS OUR TAX DOLLARS the NSA used to purchase OUR RECORDS, my assumption is that this should be a really, really big class action suit that should return FAR more money to the average American than all the Republican tax bills have netted the middle-class in the last 30 years.

I'll sign on to any class action suit anyone would like to kick start. Let's roll....
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 07:07 PM
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4. 200 millin names * $1000 = $200 billion.
I saw elsewhere that 200 million is the number of customers that the big three have inside the US, so that's the damage bill (plus legals) if this floats in court.

Hmmm, maybe this is a dastardly plot by the one holdout to secure a telecommunications monopoly.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 07:14 PM
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5. I'm all for suing the telcos
we've been over-paying them for years, IMO.

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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 07:23 PM
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6. K&R. But why is everything there twice in the OP?
Stuttering control-V finger?
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 07:41 PM
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7. I just scanned what you wrote, and don't think you noticed this either...
...The Phone Corps SOLD your data "Under contract"!!!

AND, do you think the Federal Investigation of Qwest in early 2002 might be connected to them not "playing ball?"

I posted more here a little bit ago: <http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1161279&mesg_id=1161279>

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